Best Sword Combinations Now?

I still have mine, it's decent. It's 40 higher base delay though, but that didn't seem to bother me when I used it. Naegling's bonus to SB and buff-based attack bonus is too nice to pass up, and nowadays, SB > CDC for the most part. Hard to argue in Tanmagoyi's case

Not exactly a BLU4Lyfe, but i've been using Naegling/Tanmo +1. Finding minimal acc issues on apex. Haven't ventured into omen or Dyna with it yet, as it's still slightly undergeared. Without buffs i'm at 1200 acc, and 1261 att. Very short changed on spells, so I don't have a lot of trait bonuses. If other setups offer higher acc and attack, then sweet baby jesus.... I might have to work harder and more.

I hadn't checked in ages, but did yesterday just to see. My lowest acc tp set leaves me with 1258 acc and north of 1320 attk. This is with tizona/naegling and for whatever reason all my adhemar is on the attk path and my herc boots only have +8 acc (triple attk 3 or 4 is why that's the case). Obviously, swapping one or two pieces of adhem. to acc instead of attk would put me pushing 1300 acc in my lowest acc set. I just never am acc starved in anything outside of dyna wave 3 so havent done so.

Tanmo is a terrible offhand in general. pretty much anything is better.

u r a terrible human!

Nah, he is ok in the offhand.

Kaja isnt exactly a good offhand for SB, the only stat mod is mnd +10 and 25 attack if uncapped. Colada can get much better SB stat, something like str +10 wsd+5% will pull way ahead.

If you dont want to do augment then nibiru blade path B is 2nd best choice, and pretty damn close to a good colada, much better than tanmogayi+1 and kaja.

Quick spreadsheet result with spell set/gear from 1st page, ws in 56% wsd(exclude weapon slot), 52 stp sam roll, capped attack.

Naeg/colada (str+10 wsd+5%) 5521 dps, 26402 ws avg
Naeg/nibiru B: 5516 dps, 26402 ws avg
Naeg/Tanmogayi+1: 5360 dps, 25186 ws avg
Naeg/kaja: 5466 dps, 24638.

If your attack is uncapped, kaja and nibiru blade will be even closer to colada with attack on it.

Tl;dr: use nibiru B offhand if you dont want to augment colada nor use tp bonus. Dont offhand Tanmogayi+1.

Edit:fixed typo....nibiru B not A.

Legitimate question but how does:

STR5,DA2 (Nibiru path A) equal the exact WS avg of STR10,WSD5

I can understand possibly path B with STR15,DA2 but even that I would think would trail WSD5.

My bad, I meant B(one with str and stp).....>.>

I also think the ws avg include TP overflow or else I cant explain why Tan+1 has higher avg than Kaja too.

Nibiru b also has stp +3, so that adds up.

Always interesting to see how little stats here and there we don’t typically associate with our WS sets can have such an impact. Especially comparing to straight WS damage.

I need to get back into the spreadsheets.

Just a note: Tizona is only marginally better than the Ambu sword if we're just looking at WSD and dmg per swing. I actually get better savage blade numbers with Naegling than I get Expacions from Tizona (slightly), but disappointing. You really need it augmented a bit before it pulls ahead. Yes, AM3 is sweet and the overall utility of Tizona makes it far superior. But if we're just talking ws spam, at just AG 119, it's not significant.

So dont feel TOO bad if you dont want to make the mythic. It really needs that last level of upgrades to pull ahead because the Ambu weaps are really really good.

Tizona was best sword for a few years now it’s not new
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How is Naegling + Almace as a combo? I'm working with what I have available these days. Almace is currently being augmented to complete.

Also, is Sequence worth making? Getting mixed messages from reading here.

Thanks!

Its free so why not? If it cost 100m like everything else then its another story.

For Blu, Sequence was never all that great. Almace, from a pure dps perspective was better before r15.

Now if you have Aeonic for your other jobs and want to gear blu, but don’t want to spend any Gil, than sequencer isn’t terrible.

But Naegling/1000tp bonus would be better. The only time I could see Sequence pulling ahead is under low accuracy situations in which you don’t have many buffs, in which the 1000tp bonus sword isn’t that great. You could go Sequence/Naegling and spam savage at 1250. This is me just trying to find a situation in which Sequence would be good. Honestly, if you don’t want much investment into Blu, just go Naegling. It’s jseful for other jobs as well.

Naegling/Thib is better than Sequence/Thib

Almace offhand would be Naegling

Tizona is a lot of work but it's a nice quality-of-life upgrade for content like Dyna-D where the MP return is such a benefit.

Why would Naegling/Thib have more accuracy problems than Sequence/Thib? Naegling has a nice accuracy bonus that will help OH accuracy as well.

Don't wanna sound like an *** but what sort of numbers do you have to support this?
I'm a Sequence owner myself but I'm a bit skeptic to see Sequence in second place, especially because you're pairing it with Thibron, which is tipically quite an underwhelming option for Aeonic MH setups.

You will never, ever, ever WS at *EXACTELY* 1000 TP, and when you don't it's usually a DPS loss.
Furthermore, ~2000 total TP is tipically the sweet spot for WS with very good TP scaling, like Savage Blade, from 2k to 3k the scaling gets progressively worse, which means going from 2k to 3k will likely produce a % boost smaller than the 1k>2k step.
Check how TP scales all the way from 1k to 3k.
1k ==> 4.0
2k ==> 10.25, that's roughly a 127% increase compared to the previous step (1k)
3k ==> 13.75, that's roughly a 37% increase compared to the previous step (2k)

Because of these reasons, TP bonus weapons are tipically not as good as one may think to use as Offhand for Aeonic MH.

I'm talking in general now, it might be different for BLU and Savage Blade I dunno, but I'm still moderately skeptic about Sequence/Thibron being in 2nd place in realistic, practical situations.
Glad to be proven wrong hey!

I'll make it easier for you guys.

If blu is your only dps than any sword combo will work just fine, but, if you have stronger dps and you still want to do stuff on blu you should really get tizona asap, i'm not even talking abou expia trashing everything but the unlimited mp, you should really support your pt while on blu.

if were talking mainhand hes technically right since 269+30 vs 250+40, still less acc in the off-hand though which is going to be the hand that matters anytime acc is any kind of concern

Closely related to the most recent posts

It was discussed in rdm thread a while ago. Despite the smaller tp scale past 2000, sequence still has similar ws avg as naegling.

Add the additional stp sequence pulls ahead very slightly. If you can't offhand tp bonus then sequence pulls even further ahead.

That being said, naegling has attack bonus so it may beat sequence if attack uncapped.

To me they are both on the same tier. If you want to use sequence then use it, and vice versa. The difference will probably not be very noticeable but the method of obtaining them is what matters imo.

use the sharp ones for more slicey slicey
or pointy ones for more stabby stabby

I have not seen any mention of Zantetsuken or Zomorrodnegar / Mirage / luhlaza in any of this thread... are they viable, or trash? Just wondering.

Thanks

Zan is mentioned in detail and parsed on the most recent page of the BLI guide. Zomo is talked about too for its utility in Dynamis (this is from memory).

Gotta be Savage Blade.