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 Siren.Kuz
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By Siren.Kuz 2009-10-14 10:35:51
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Makira said:
That BLM thing also made me remember another question, I was told Moldavite Earring is good to equip in for quickdraw, is that worth doing? That being the ONLY piece of magic attack bonus I'd have on COR >.>


ANY MAB you can find is worth it
Moldy Earring
Uggy Pendant
Nimhue Tights
Denali Legs
Mirke Body with QD recast down and +4 MAB is a GODSENT

Also... Unless you go Murderer+Supremacy Earring...
I've seen REALLY nice Augments with a Corsair's Gun where they get MAB or M.acc.

My Corsairs Gun wound up getting +2 M.Acc on it when I augmented it in VoS

Also... Don't forget!!! Elemental Staves and Obis!!!!!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-14 10:44:40
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Oxbloodravenxo said:
Corrderio said:
For SJs I'd go with...

/WAR: Berserk and Slug Shot can do some impressive damage on Greater Colibri.

/RNG: Barrage, Sharpshot, Gun Belt Latnet unlocked, and Accuracy Bonus traits.

/NIN: Other than shadows /NIN doesn't offer a lot to a Corsair.

/BLM: MAB 2 trait for Quick Draw

/WHM: Mostly used for endgame for extra cures and -na spells.

/DNC: DD+Cures and erase very useful for subcuring and damage dealing when possible.

/RDM: Mix of /WHM and /BLM, you'll have access to cures and MAB 1 trait.

/BRD: Only time I see this being used is for Manaburn PTs for Evokers + Ballad 1

/BLU: Grants MAB trait with the right spells as well as some AGI spells.


Fixed :P


Fight it all you want, but it is a useful sub endgame.
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By Remora.Dubont 2009-10-14 11:04:20
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I sub RNG and War mostly...sometimes i sub drg in campaign just b/c its fun. WHM for endgame...if you are one of THOSE people but i personally prefer /blm for endgame (especially in sky) I never, under any circumstances use /nin. I hate it. More survivability yes but less of everything else and if u want survivability go /dnc (which is one of the best subs for anything in this game) I also think /blu would be fun but i have yet to try it
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By Pandemonium.Despain 2009-10-14 14:49:04
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Mrkyuu said:

1. /Whm - I know a lot of CORS will shoot this one down, however, in particular events where your elemental shots are used just for sleeping (Dynamis in particular) or where you are tossed in with a group of melees/mages to toss rolls to it's very nice to be able to pull healing duty on top of keeping the group at it's maximum efficiency. Dancer's roll + regen = up to 21 hp a tick + Divine Seal Curaga II is very potent. Just get a good mix of Agi+ and Mp+ and that's all you need, very low cost to maintain.


I agree. When it comes to endgame situations (especially Dynamis), COR/WHM is the best route, although I've found it hard to get a good mix of AGI along with MP, and in City/Beaucedine Dynamises, I've had no trouble landing Light Shot on mobs using just my Denali Jacket.
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By Bahamut.Pheliont 2009-10-14 15:09:59
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Mrkyuu said:
Since I've been 75 I've pulled over 130,000 million exp in merits right into COR, with another 580,000 more to go.


130,000 MILLION? and another 580,000 more (million) to go?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2009-10-14 15:18:38
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Oxbloodravenxo said:
Zicdeh said:
Corsair Subs I've used.

Ranger: Max Damage
White Mage: Fake Bard
Red Mage: Double Dispel, Powerful Elemental Shots
Ninja: Solo'ing or for Damage against super shitty DD's
Scholar: Interesting... but worthless 99% of the time. I suppose if you have a regen fetish.
Black Mage: +4% Magic Damage at the expense of all supportive abilities over Red Mage.

You forgot /blu :P


Just subs I've tried, haven't tried BLU sub, so not gonna comment on it. It would probably be somewhere between Red Mage and Black Mage I'd imagine though.
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By Ifrit.Jurai 2009-10-14 15:27:08
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I've come to like /SAM more than /RNG.

Meditate is 3min recast not 5min like Barrage and you always get 60TP. Meditate isn't going to miss or only get one or two shots to land like sometimes with Barrage. Ok, ya might get lucky and land more than 60% with a Barrage but I don't think it's worth nearly double the recast time.

With StoreTP job trait from /SAM I get 5 shots to get 100% instead of 6 (with CM or Martial).. could say that saves on bullets a little..

Having Segain/Third Eye gives some protection while on /RNG you have nothing.
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By Siren.Kuz 2009-10-14 15:33:29
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Zicdeh said:
Just subs I've tried, haven't tried BLU sub, so not gonna comment on it. It would probably be somewhere between Red Mage and Black Mage I'd imagine though.


The benefit to BLU sub is that you get your buffs like Metallic Body and Cocoon, as well has healing spells.
But you can also set spells for MAB1 and +5 more AGI without taking up any inventory slots!
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By Sylph.Oxbloodravenxo 2009-10-14 17:48:47
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My personal favourites are probably the ones already explained:

/Rng: When i feel spamming bullets and more accurate slugs.

/Nin: For general use and imo it's the most fun sj.

/Blm: for increased Mab though i only really use this when i'm in a party with my whm friend who sometimes gets recall meriph happy to annoy me <.< warp ftw.

/Whm (yes i do sub this.) Although doesn't mean i like it. I sj whm strictly for dynamis only where i am a support and not for DD. Einherjar and such i prefer /nin due to all the AoEs

/Blu i haven't tried yet but i have heard many many good things.

/Dnc: for merit pts when we have a brd.

/War tried once although i did powerful damage and was extremly fun i also got my *** handed to me on a plate.

/Brd and /Rdm i'm not to find of personally.
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2009-10-14 18:05:04
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Oxbloodravenxo said:
Corrderio said:
For SJs I'd go with...
/WHM: Mostly used for endgame for extra cures and -na spells.

/DNC: DD+Cures and erase very useful for subcuring and damage dealing when possible.
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Fixed :P

Would just like to point out that waltz is slightly not as good as erase as it can't erase bard songs (Stupid brd yags in campaign)
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By Sylph.Oxbloodravenxo 2009-10-14 18:06:18
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Lol! :P i've not seen campaign in like half a year <.< lol i can't stand the place.
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By Cerberus.Makira 2009-10-14 21:00:21
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Well I finished off RNG and used it in a party today as a sub for the first time. And yeah... the person that told me Barrage was bad should go play in traffic. My only problem was once I pulled hate I was kinda screwed, haha. Luckily I had 2 DNC's in the PT though, but I'd like to try again but with a PLD instead of a NIN as a tank.

But thanks again for all the help! /rng is one of the coolest things since sliced bread.
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By Unicorn.Nitsuj 2009-10-14 21:29:24
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Most important subs (probably repost, but just want to reiterate)

/nin: if pulling or in a zone where you need damage mitigation, make sure you have accuracy food and gear to make up for it.

/war: in a merit party or event that you don't fit the above requirements to need to sub /nin. Also recommended to use accuracy setup/food. Best sub for filling a DD role.

/rng: if you want to eat meat or do ranged attacks, the accuracy bonus here helps a ton.

/rdm: if you're in a blackmage party or soloing with quickdraw. Magic Attack Bonus will help, the cures and buffs as well.

/whm: if you are in a situation like /rdm but need -na spells or curaga.

Just my initial thoughts from playing the job the last few years.

*** the haters, but I do /nin in nyzul, /whm in Einherjar, /rng in merit. Dynamis depends on what party I'm in and I sure hope to finish RDM and WAR this month as well, but I exp like once a year :/
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By Ifrit.Treasurehunterx 2009-11-01 01:17:28
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/drg don't get enough love for merits. There acc bonus, att bonus, jump, high jump(-50% hate), and +6% HASTE. Cap haste build + M. kriss = sex and with the new ASA pants its pure win. The only thing that make this sub job better is if we can summon parrot.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2009-12-24 12:58:04
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Your going to kill me for this but currently I'm level 16, raping Easy prey with COR roll and emperor band.. /BST <.<

Getting hurt isn't really my issue. My issue is kill speed.
Its nice just shooting/meleeing the hell out of something while an Akbaba attacks it. For Solo /BST is working out nice,
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By Fairy.Brenda 2009-12-24 13:33:52
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Only times you will need /WHM endgame is Wyrms (Jorm, Tiamat)

Other then that, if you need heals, /DNC.

I use /WAR for just about any event.
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By Hades.Kvazz 2009-12-24 14:09:41
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Ontopic:
If you need the acc, \rng ofcourse.
If you want epeen-numbers, \war by far.
If you want the best overall performance \drg is better as far as I've seen on other cors(working on \drg myself atm). With \drg you'll be able to both cap acc and haste with alittle effort.(as long as you eat sushi)
\nin is situational, when there's lots of nasty aoes is really the only time you should need this.
\whm can be handy, depending on the setup i actually go \whm to mamool camp sometimes.
\dnc -> \whm probably tho, but i dont have dnc leveled.
\blm if you just spam quick draw!
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By Odin.Spccdog 2009-12-24 14:33:01
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Agi helps quickdraw acc , didnt see anyone mention this
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-12-24 15:17:15
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bout time Corsair page gets alil (Bump)
at low lvs /war is awesome. with FoV and treasure caskets soloing is a joke, but e z mode and effective.

/dnc you only have drain samba for a few lvs till COR/DNC lv 30 curing waltz
I myself havent tried /drg but hell seems interesting.

Have you tried /blu?
several cures, cocooon, mettalic body.
even Magic attack @ lv 64.
but im a QD ***.


Corsair is such a viable job, its hard to say what is the best /sub job.
but depending on your play style, race and available leveled /subs
try out what you want till you get in the groove.

:My subs :

/WHM: namis and l.s events because no one in my l.s lv's bard,
Mount Z BLM meripo. ( asesome XP less moving about leeching off BLM's)
/RNG: used in a few missions, solo bird camp.
/SAM: fire staff, Hasso, not as great as rng/sam but works
/NIN: not a big fave but solo has its perks with ninja roll and choral roll + cheaper snk, invis than pots and oils.
/DNC: campaign and Bird camp parties.
/BLM: QD kite
/THF: Evasion set, solo ninja and dancers roll.
/WAR: Campaign and M.gun for big # syndrome.
**Coming soon**
/BLU: Solo
/RDM: QD kite with some defence
/BRD: again because i know no bards.


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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-24 15:19:10
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Lol at metallic body... especially a /blu metallic body
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By Sylph.Jetu 2009-12-24 15:22:57
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/blm is fantastic fun for soloing NM's, got a 577 watershot (except it had a water obi)


/whm i use for endgame, i rock about 600 MP as a mithra & help with alot of heals

/dnc is what i like best for merit pt's

/rng or /nin should be all u use while lvling though (unles u have an m.kris or joytoy, then /dnc works great
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-12-24 15:23:44
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well mettalic body lv 16 or @ still under lvs.
not metttalic body tanking a HNM in the face.
/think alil.
it helps
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-24 15:24:38
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What about the new agi grip?
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-12-24 15:24:58
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Sylph.Jetu said:
/blm is fantastic fun for soloing NM's, got a 577 watershot (except it had a water obi)


/whm i use for endgame, i rock about 600 MP as a mithra & help with alot of heals

damn i press to have 400 mp >< elvaan. but nice #
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By Ramuh.Vagnagun 2009-12-24 15:26:52
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Reaver grip +1?

if i can find a +1 on ah or a crafter.

but AGL = Mag ACC+

ele grips give the magic acc+

!!Rovers gloves ! ><

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By Asura.Aaveraiskaaja 2009-12-24 15:28:13
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Hades.Kvazz said:
Ontopic:

Ontopic:
If you need the acc, \rng ofcourse.
If you want epeen-numbers, \war by far.
If you want the best overall performance \drg is better as far as I've seen on other cors(working on \drg myself atm). With \drg you'll be able to both cap acc and haste with alittle effort.(as long as you eat sushi)
\nin is situational, when there's lots of nasty aoes is really the only time you should need this.
\whm can be handy, depending on the setup i actually go \whm to mamool camp sometimes.
\dnc -> \whm probably tho, but i dont have dnc leveled.
\blm if you just spam quick draw!

Very well summed up subjobs there overall and I decided to bold the /drg part just because you were the first person to mention it in this topic, which I was looking for. :) Just leveled /drg and it feels like a powerful sub ( when you melee tp with multihit weapon) with wyvern earring for added 5% haste, accuracy bonus and jumps are nice extra as well. Haven't got to play around with it much yet and compare numbers though, but it seems good, it feels very solid. Still hard to judge anything based on short meriting session, but gut feeling says it's right. :)

Usually I've went /war.

Note: this was just concerning merit parties and such.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-24 15:29:16
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Ramuh.Vagnagun said:
well mettalic body lv 16 or @ still under lvs.
not metttalic body tanking a HNM in the face.
/think alil.
it helps
Well you aint using it under 16 /blu...

And max stoneskin for that at lvl 75cor/blu is lol 63. On a spell that takes a full 7 sec to cast and 60 sec recast... yeah it's rarely worth it blu main.
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By Pandemonium.Silvaria 2009-12-24 15:50:19
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I prefer /RNG, myself, and rarely sub anything else, since I refuse to pull in parties and have found /WHM to be essentially useless due to the low mp.