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By sefalon 2019-02-14 16:12:30
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What would be the best way for a solo player to obtain heavy metal plates besides the obvious way of just buying them. Is there a easier NM to kill?
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By sefalon 2019-02-14 16:16:13
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Sorry put this in wrong place thought it was general.
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By Bismarck.Xurion 2019-02-14 16:18:23
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Ambuscade. Other than that, the Voidwatch campaign (it is on now, Monday, February 11, at 12:00 a.m. (PST) to Thursday, February 28, at 6:59 a.m.) is great for just spamming any of the NMs in Sky that drop them using the displacers.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2019-02-14 16:18:29
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sefalon said: »
What would be the best way for a solo player to obtain heavy metal plates besides the obvious way of just buying them. Is there a easier NM to kill?
Vw campaign spam which is on now
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-02-14 16:44:17
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I have often wondered if anyone ever ran numbers on plates/hour when comparing a mob that drops plate pouches vs. individual plates. For those who are drowning in Voidstones of course.
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By sefalon 2019-02-14 16:47:47
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Well i used to just do dynamis and sell everything so wouldn’t be a issue in just buying the plates but it seems the currency is so cheap now not really worth it and I would like to use my money I have for mythic weapon so I guess I will spam nms
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-02-14 16:49:41
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
I have often wondered if anyone ever ran numbers on plates/hour when comparing a mob that drops plate pouches vs. individual plates. For those who are drowning in Voidstones of course.

It was done, a long time ago, but Pil/Kaggen/Akvan gave more on average. Something like 40% of the time you get 1 plate, vs 3% of the time pouch @ Qilin/Uptala/Harpiebitch
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By Bismarck.Chasuro 2019-02-14 17:00:18
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Use a phase displacer and farm pouches. It's hit or miss though. One day you may get 99hmp's, another day you might get 3.
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By Taint 2019-02-14 17:06:16
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Morta spam always seems like the best to me.

I avoid voidwatch event like the plague. Trade cobalt and plates/cinders/dross flow like water.

Ruby only needs to be 150 for them which you get from abyssite.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-02-14 18:20:44
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Nevermind found it.

Update your quotes y'all
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-02-14 18:24:18
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I've always enjoyed Morta/Bismarck better than pouches, just my speed. Its likely just been my experience, but I have found over time that Bismarck is better for Riftdross, Morta for Riftcinder.

Both can drop either, just in different ratios.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-02-14 18:28:37
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I counted my stones and I used 350 on aello, and got 23 pouches total. After popping them, I came out with a little over 235~ hmp this week. A link member pointed out that my average was right on the money for what it was cited as.

Frustrated that i was burning through stones and didn't see me hitting my goal this campaign (I have 650 left, so I won't make it), a friend mentioned that Bismarck was light-years better than aello, so I tried it.

After about 100 stones (again I counted, started with around 1100) and 1.5 hours of farming, I walked away with 7 Sealord skins, an angel skin, 2 riftcinders (which I need anyways), 6 riftdross, 8 hmp singles, and a few other pricy sellables, it became almost immediately clear that farming pouches is a sure waste of stones.

I'll never farm pouches again. You bank too much on that one pouch drop, but morta and bis give you more bites at the apple per stone. I wouldn't recommend anyone doing pouches if you're low on stones like me. (of course this is all dependant on the price of skins, which for me were 1m each)

Everyone already should know that Bismarck (and sorta morta) are WAY better than anything else.

But not HMP, specifically.

And there are only 3 pops for bismarck... so some people need to remain ignorant and keep doing pouch pops....
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By Taint 2019-02-14 18:28:57
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
I've always enjoyed Morta/Bismarck better than pouches, just my speed. Its likely just been my experience, but I have found over time that Bismarck is better for Riftdross, Morta for Riftcinder.

Both can drop either, just in different ratios.


Yeah pretty sure thats confirmed via FFXIDB, which is why I do Morta, 60 Cinders is almost always worth more than 60 dross. So even if you need dross you just farm cinders, sell them, buy dross.
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By Taint 2019-02-14 18:30:13
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I counted my stones and I used 350 on aello, and got 23 pouches total. After popping them, I came out with a little over 235~ hmp this week. A link member pointed out that my average was right on the money for what it was cited as.

Frustrated that i was burning through stones and didn't see me hitting my goal this campaign (I have 650 left, so I won't make it), a friend mentioned that Bismarck was light-years better than aello, so I tried it.

After about 100 stones (again I counted, started with around 1100) and 1.5 hours of farming, I walked away with 7 Sealord skins, an angel skin, 2 riftcinders (which I need anyways), 6 riftdross, 8 hmp singles, and a few other pricy sellables, it became almost immediately clear that farming pouches is a sure waste of stones.

I'll never farm pouches again. You bank too much on that one pouch drop, but morta and bis give you more bites at the apple per stone. I wouldn't recommend anyone doing pouches if you're low on stones like me. (of course this is all dependant on the price of skins, which for me were 1m each)

Everyone already should know that Bismarck (and sorta morta) are WAY better than anything else.

But not HMP, specifically.

And there are only 3 pops for bismarck... so some people need to remain ignorant and keep doing pouch pops....


And 99.9% of players use their stones during campaigns like good little sheep. The rest of us enjoy empty camps with no time restraints.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2019-02-14 18:32:01
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or live on quiet enough servers that those 3 Bismarck pops are always empty even during campaigns^^
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-02-14 18:34:26
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But i'm gonna delete that ***, in a minute, so no one sees it.
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By Taint 2019-02-14 18:38:28
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610k vs 400k on Asura right now. And they drop way more frequently than sap or skin.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-02-14 18:59:37
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See above
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-02-14 19:01:58
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Taint said: »
610k vs 400k on Asura right now. And they drop way more frequently than sap or skin.

Actually, skins and saps are double the rate of rift. So, deleted statement stands true.

Sealord skin 878 out of 10359 8.5%
Clump of riftdross 471 out of 10359 4.5%

Vial of belladonna sap 2633 out of 31473 8.4%
Pinch of riftcinder 1221 out of 31473 3.9%
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By sefalon 2019-02-14 22:04:13
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So what’s best job to solo these? Does TH matter?
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By Asura.Saphyne 2019-02-14 22:32:56
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is Cobalt better for metals etc? I have been using Rubicund
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By abdhaljs 2019-02-14 22:43:31
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I knew what the thread was going to be about, but I clicked on it anyway expecting someone to make a music pun.

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By Prong 2019-02-15 02:18:55
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sefalon said: »
So what’s best job to solo these? Does TH matter?

Thief. Yes, TH matters. You even get a little message regarding your Treasure Hunter level obtained when you open the chest.
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By Taint 2019-02-15 06:16:16
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Taint said: »
610k vs 400k on Asura right now. And they drop way more frequently than sap or skin.

Actually, skins and saps are double the rate of rift. So, deleted statement stands true.

Sealord skin 878 out of 10359 8.5%
Clump of riftdross 471 out of 10359 4.5%

Vial of belladonna sap 2633 out of 31473 8.4%
Pinch of riftcinder 1221 out of 31473 3.9%


That’s so odd but i trust it. I feel like saps are so rare. Maybe they require more ruby??

After campaign I’ll do another 1000 and report back.
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By Taint 2019-02-15 06:18:27
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Prong said: »
sefalon said: »
So what’s best job to solo these? Does TH matter?

Thief. Yes, TH matters. You even get a little message regarding your Treasure Hunter level obtained when you open the chest.


TH bonus goes toward colors. So it’s pointless unless you are after the rare weapons outside of campaign.

I prefer SAM and just 5 step Morta down. (No displaces needed for hq DDs)
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By kishr 2019-02-15 06:35:37
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Been answered but voidwatch is best outside monthly ambuscade.
Save stones and get KI for reduce receiving timer and wait for campaign.

Can learn salvage lv99 and do that each hour and sell a 99 stack of Alex and just buy hmp after, it's like 10 hmp a hour for 15-20min of running through a salvage.
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By kishr 2019-02-15 06:44:42
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Taint said: »
I prefer SAM and just 5 step Morta down. (No displaces needed for hq DDs)

99 Stack of displaces is 100k.
Thats 2 hmp for 24 fast fights, speeds stuff up. Can 1 shot a tulia vw nm that way, just saying.