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Opinions on rank of best damage dealers
Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2009-10-29 07:30:43
Remora.Laphine said: go to the blm vs sch thread maxse thf > all /endthread
go to the thief > all thread laphine. hi im giving my opionion on best dd in the thread thats the subject you *** retard.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 08:34:00
THF only does great damage from behind, which might not be an option at times.
MONK!!!
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-29 08:35:04
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: THF only does great damage from behind, which might not be an option at times. MONK!!!
Do I hear correct? KFH is saying butt secks isn't always available?
Remora.Laphine
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By Remora.Laphine 2009-10-29 08:35:34
if there is such a thread, please, point me to it.
Meanwhile you can still discuss your sch thing on that thread which is pretty hot with over 25 pages.
Your point is valid anyway. A sch can out dd a blm on nuke spam, sure. Thing is there are hardly any moments you can do such a thing. Einherjar i guess is one, still, most likely a sch will be set in a melee pt for buffs. Also some einherjar mobs can be quite resisting.
In any kind of battle that rest is needed blm gain grounds. A ideal situation would be AM2->rest->AM2->rest (A nq hmp set could get the mp back in min or so). And if the AM2 is also being bursted the gap increases even more.
You said sch could out dd with only his inner fastcast, no alacrity. We dont have an out nuke option so that spam will never be perfect. There are many variables to that "nuke spam" on this case.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 08:35:55
Ramuh.Dasva said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: THF only does great damage from behind, which might not be an option at times. MONK!!!
Do I hear correct? KFH is saying butt secks isn't always available?
nope, sorry. You'll have to face your gay lover at some point lol
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-29 08:46:05
Anyways back on topic. From best to worst top3
1. Me
2. Chuck Norris
3. Nuclear missile
Carbuncle.Taintedone
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By Carbuncle.Taintedone 2009-10-29 12:31:55
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Carbuncle.Taintedone said: Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said: Carbuncle.Taintedone said: Paladin
Better DD than Mnk, Rng, Sam, Drk, or Chuck Norris.
/endthread.
you're only a 63PLD so STFU!
64 now >_>
Even at level 64 I'm able to see Paladin's awesomeness over every other DD in the game, and even some heavy DD outside the game, like Chuck Norris, Optimus Prime, He-Man, and Hulk Hogan's pasta al dente.
that was funny, but still, PLD is not that awesome.
Yeah I know, just a bit of /sarcasm if you hadn't already caught on XD
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 12:53:16
Ramuh.Dasva said: Anyways back on topic. From best to worst top3
1. Chuck Norris
2. Kungfu Panda
3. That kid from Speed Racer
fixed
Caitsith.Alriath
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2009-10-29 12:56:19
Siren.Enternius said: As someone with almost all DD jobs at 66 or higher, I can safely say my best DD is MNK in merits.
I know, people are saying wtfyoudontevengetpiercingweaponsgodie. Clearly you haven't seen a good Faith MNK in action.
Seriously, Hundred Fists speed WITHOUT Haste and March. Add Haste/March on top of that, and it takes ~10 seconds to get TP for a 1k WS. And the WS speed isn't even the impressive part. In that 10 seconds, I have to hit 18 times, and every hit I do is in the mid 70s. That's 1350 damage in 10 seconds, and then a 1k WS. 2350 damage in ~12 seconds, EVERY 12 seconds. Let's see your Polearm SAMs beat that.
Since I just seen a Faith monk in a meritpo for the first time last night.. I'll agree with that, without some kind of multi-hit weapon theres no way I could keep up with his rate of attacks. Not like I was just destroyed in damage or anything but it was definitly fun to watch and those birds got raped.
Cerberus.Geldric
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By Cerberus.Geldric 2009-10-29 14:34:10
What MNK WS does 1,000 damage on a constant basis?
Carbuncle.Taintedone
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By Carbuncle.Taintedone 2009-10-29 14:39:30
Forget everything I've posted thus far..
This is the biggest DD by far
Fairy.Mayeh
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By Fairy.Mayeh 2009-10-29 15:38:45
Cerberus.Geldric said: What MNK WS does 1,000 damage on a constant basis?
Monk is DoT not WS.
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Caitsith.Alriath
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By Caitsith.Alriath 2009-10-29 17:16:32
Cerberus.Geldric said: What MNK WS does 1,000 damage on a constant basis?
More then you think I'd guess, that monk from last night hit lows of 800 and highs of 1k avg 950+ per asuran fists, Faiths are sexy period.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 17:22:38
Dragon Kick + SATA delivers a consistent 1k+ damage(tried and proven during Campaign).
Cerberus.Geldric
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By Cerberus.Geldric 2009-10-29 20:28:30
Anybody that believes random info thrown out from anybody should be shot. Show me a parse of said MNK and I'll change my opinion but in no way had MNK ever become ws dmg in a meritpo. As said before; MNK is Dot not WS.
And Kungfuhustle the earlier posts before mine were talking about a MNK constantly delivering 1,000+ ws's every 10secs somehow. I also doubt he was /thf.
And if your sam and your using a soboro in a meritpo your gimping your own dmg. Should have stuck with a 5hit Polearm and you would have been no problem.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-10-29 20:58:41
Anybody like BLUs in meripos? ; ;
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-29 21:03:37
Fairy.Azulmagia said: Anybody like BLUs in meripos? ; ;
Aren't there laws against that?
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-10-29 21:05:16
Ramuh.Haseyo said: Fairy.Azulmagia said: Anybody like BLUs in meripos? ; ;
Aren't there laws against that?
Oh yeah, when the sadsack WARs started complaining that they were losing hate to a BLU, legal action ensued. Totally forgot. :(
EDIT: On a serious note, I think BLUs can perform perfectly well in a merit party. Sure we're not a PA SAM, but solo Distortion is pretty nice given Disseverment's piercing bonus and the less-likely-to-be-resisted Ice-based SC. MP isn't really a huge deal, I've merited on BLU with a WHM healer and no Ballad functionally, MP Drainkiss yo.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-29 21:07:33
Well getting hate on Blu is mad-easy, since Blu can spam spike damage.
I personally didn't see a Blu in a merit party when I was playing, ever.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-10-29 21:08:54
Ramuh.Haseyo said: Well getting hate on Blu is mad-easy, since Blu can spam spike damage.
I personally didn't see a Blu in a merit party when I was playing, ever.
Just spamming Big Three is a great way to get yourself killed and/or run out of MP and become deadweight. 1H Sword is easily the most pathetic "DD" weapon in the game, with an equally pathetic set of WSs to go with it.
By Vegetto 2009-10-29 21:09:03
I wouldn't merit w/ a blu unless I personally knew them and was trying to do them a favor by pt'ing w/ them.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 21:10:17
Vegetto, your avi is disturbing.
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-10-29 21:10:25
Vegetto said: I wouldn't merit w/ a blu unless I personally knew them and was trying to do them a favor by pt'ing w/ them.
This is generally how I get merit parties :(
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-29 21:10:32
Fairy.Azulmagia said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: Well getting hate on Blu is mad-easy, since Blu can spam spike damage.
I personally didn't see a Blu in a merit party when I was playing, ever.
Just spamming Big Three is a great way to get yourself killed and/or run out of MP and become deadweight. 1H Sword is easily the most pathetic "DD" weapon in the game, with an equally pathetic set of WSs to go with it.
Staff or Club. Sword DPS isn't the worst, though it's not great.
EDIT: Oh god Vegetto, CANNOT UNSEE.
Ramuh.Haseyo
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-29 21:12:00
War/Sam/Rdm/Cor/Brd or gtfo.
Lrn2merit.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 21:12:58
CAMPAIGN FTW!
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By Fairy.Azulmagia 2009-10-29 21:13:52
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Staff. Sword DPS isn't the worst, though it's not great.
EDIT: Oh god Vegetto, CANNOT UNSEE.
If I had the choice, I'd rather a quarterstaff over a 1H sword simply because 2H > 1H. Expiacion was a huge, huge, huge letdown. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse than Savage Blade.
By Vegetto 2009-10-29 21:17:43
We let a blu in our ls come one time. Cause he made a bet he could keep up w/ mnk and drg. The drg main healed as /blu and still beat the blu by almost 10%. I was mnk/war and the drg was /mage so yea I wrecked face big time lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-10-29 21:21:30
That's a bet I'd never make...
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-29 21:21:44
my god that avatar is disturbing
Curious to see how people would rank the different damage dealing jobs according to best damage output. No restrictions on gear; looking for the very best.
I know right now everyone is all "sam sam sam" but I think a pimped out WAR trumps it. Also BLM is up there somewhere.
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