The A.M.A.N. Trove BC

I swear loud thuds don’t mean anything

The Terminal Coffer has a hidden Noise/Thud/LoudThud thing too.
When you get a rare drop from a series of "noise" chests, it means there was a "loud thud" in the terminal coffer.

Didnt someone do a test of like 300 orbs or something of just opening and walked away with 5 bodies?

My average is around 1 omen body every 60 mars + 60 venus always aiming for Loud Thuds.

I left in 2019 and came back this past summer. When I left people were selling these like hot cakes. Now, they hardly ever sell. I also see that 2m and 5m are a new common price.

Did people figure out that buying them just wasn't worth it or is the community aggregately capped out on what's needed / dropped from there? A little of column A and B?

Spark nerf happened. Most people cant just toss out easy gil.

Also, after malignance set, much of omen bodies lost its shine. And probably just two omen accessories are that relevant to get.

At this point, i just see the omen bodies as a trophy. My 1$ mules got have an ashera and a shamash that i still didnt bother to move to main accounts, because even them, they arent that relevant nowaday.

I still use my Ashera harness in my hybrid TP sets on both my DD BRD and AM3 Runefencer, and I use Shamash Robe as a BiS refresh/PDT idle piece on my WHM, RDM, and GEO.

Ashera, Dagon, Niq, Lugalbanda, Dingir, Utu, Ilabrat, Regal belt/earring/necklace/ring, Sherida, Nusku, Erra, Knob are all pretty relevant I'd say. Could argue a few of them, but there's more than a couple that are sought after.

On the accessories, I gotta really disagree with you. Iskur Gorget, Kishar Ring, Erra Pendant, Dingir Ring, Ilabrat Ring, Niqmaddu Ring, Anu Torque, Ammurapi Shield, Utu grip all are extremely functional still.

On the bodies- while I would agree that its quite possible to have a great <fill in job> without its Omen Body, there are ways to make damn near all of them functional and benefit from them.

Ashera and Shamash mentioned above just as I'd use them.

Dagon can be used for some really fun builds for heavy DDs due to the ease of getting other TA gear (Flamma+2 head first to come to mind). Is it my primary body piece for TP'ing on DRK? No- but it does allow for some fun builds that are productive.

Nisroch is my main body slot for RNG and COR when using Empyrean weapons and AM3 is up. Yes, Malignance did outclass it for Gastraphetes,Fomalhaut, and Annihilator, but that doesn't mean its worthless or can't be best even in some situations.

Udug....I'll let others discuss.

Again- I won't claim that they're without peer the best bodies for their relative jobs- but I can find great uses for the 4 of 5 I play the jobs that can wear them.

+BLU for Shamash too

automaton nukes

Best BST pet nuke body as well. I threw up in my mouth a little bit after saying that

Sorry, i meant AMAn accessories. Orpheus and Epaminondas.

Having omen accessories from AMAN trove is about the same feeling of having a reisen T3 body dropping: nice, but most likely the desirable will get acquired from the content itself. Luckly, somehow, omen accessories seemed pretty hard to fall, in my experience at least.

For the first time ever, I got lucky...

are Regal Gloves good for anything other than Lockstyle? I recently got a pair from Trove myself, but I am having a hard time finding any set they would fit in.

Good to use when Mijin Gakure is on cooldown.

On a serious note, the HP on it is insane.

It should be BiS for a high HP set, but it seems more suited for tank jobs.

use it when zombieing something on brd with hymnus.

is the drop rate of valuable items nerfed? it just seems like its not like what it used to be, literally 40+ mars 20+ venus with loud and normal thud and drops are terrible

My BF got a Tartarus Platemail from it just the other day. I think it was a loud thud. It was his second time doing AMAN Trove.

I notice the loud thud is pretty common for me as well.

The drop rate wasn’t nerfed, it’s just the perception of valuable items went down with the sparks nerf.

Before the sparks nerf, you could probably make around 800k average off of synth mats if you didn’t get thwacked. Now, you might get lucky to get an 800k synth mat at all. I run 20 orbs per month and that’s about my average, getting 1, maybe 2 really good sellable mats. Sellable mats meaning anything over 200k.

I don't want to add fuel to the fire of speculation, especially with no evidence to offer in this post, but as someone who pops 36 Mars and 36 Venus a month, I noticed a considerable drop rate in receiving loud thuds this month, even in venus, compared to many past months.

Again, I offer no evidence as this could just be a terrible coincidence, so please take this post with a grain of salt.

However, I am curious now as another individual who pops these similar to the amount that I do has noticed something about this. And SE does have a history of ninja nerfs.

i think i've read befor that there is some sort of bad luck prevention system in A.M.A.N. trove. that could explain why people encounter streaks of good drops followed by a long streaks of bad luck i suppose.

Is that bad luck prevention system called probability?

A categorical breakdown (since I know how much you love your spreadsheets) would go a long way in tracking whether this is a unique coincidence or rather an actual hidden mechanism to prevent market saturation from one account.

My money is on an unhappy coincidence. While I'm sure it's possible for SE to have a mechanism in place to prevent streaks of Loud Thuds from one account, they would likely not have a system in place to track it across multiple accounts. They would have to have some serious IP-tracking in order to do that, and I doubt their dev team thought that much into it, lol.

Yeah. It's probably just a probability factor and superstitions that are tweaking my findings.

Notice you got 9 thuds but 10 drops. The Terminal Coffer was a "loud thud".