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 Bismarck.Nickeny
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2026-11-03 19:13:38
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I’ve gone from playing like a crackhead to people thinking I hate the game because of Sortie. I just stopped caring about FFXI’s endgame, but what endgame is it, really...

I don’t think I’ll ever have the ferocity for FFXI again unless they decompile the game with AI and let the janitor who keeps the game running use Claude to fix the stank left behind by Sortie.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-11-03 21:57:25
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Seun said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
The reward is not static.

The reward for doing the run, not the additional plate. We were talking about campaigns that are more rewarding. The potential for reward is the same here regardless of how many runs you do back to back.

Your assumption is that it will be difficult to get the plate and mine is that it will not be. We'll have to wait to see who's the ***.
Lets try this again, lets put some numbers.

Lets say you have a group that goes at 7am before work, you leave for work at 8:30. If you get the plate you cant use it. If you use it at 5pm, your plate wont be recharged by 7am the next day. Zero gain.

Lets say you have a group that goes at 3pm, before the wife and kids get home, or you finish up just around the same time. Same issue as above: you cant go after because you have RL duties to tend to and doing the run later on will *** with the schedule. Zero gain.

No ones going to plan around a MAYBE doing a second run.

And heres the kicker: if you get your free plate, you cant even do anything with it. Its not a speed-charged Ruspix plate, its giving you the primary entry KI back. For most people, all it will do is shave 20 hours off their Ruspix plate.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-11-03 22:17:27
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Nynja said: »
Seun said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
The reward is not static.

The reward for doing the run, not the additional plate. We were talking about campaigns that are more rewarding. The potential for reward is the same here regardless of how many runs you do back to back.

Your assumption is that it will be difficult to get the plate and mine is that it will not be. We'll have to wait to see who's the ***.
Lets try this again, lets put some numbers.

Lets say you have a group that goes at 7am before work, you leave for work at 8:30. If you get the plate you cant use it. If you use it at 5pm, your plate wont be recharged by 7am the next day. Zero gain.

Lets say you have a group that goes at 3pm, before the wife and kids get home, or you finish up just around the same time. Same issue as above: you cant go after because you have RL duties to tend to and doing the run later on will *** with the schedule. Zero gain.

No ones going to plan around a MAYBE doing a second run.

And heres the kicker: if you get your free plate, you cant even do anything with it. Its not a speed-charged Ruspix plate, its giving you the primary entry KI back. For most people, all it will do is shave 20 hours off their Ruspix plate.

In your scenario where you do one run early and one run later, causing the next-day's plate to not be ready for your 7 am static, you can just borrow time from your likely unused Ruspix. In your first example you take 10 from your Ruspix and can join your group at normal start time. Even if you repeat this process, you can probably get two days worth of Ruspix time-borrowing before you run out. That's 4 runs in two days and leeching necessary time from Ruspix, before returning to once per day. And that's using your extreme example.
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By Seun 2026-11-03 23:27:54
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Lets try this again, lets put some numbers.

You're missing the point, but your example is perfect. The guy who is already running Sortie daily doesn't need a campaign. In fact, based on numbers we've already been over, anyone in a capable group doesn't need to run Sortie daily to keep up with their psyche allowance. He shouldn't feel bad and I don't feel bad for him.


The campaign is so people who aren't progressed can still get into a pug run on their main job, but still have the option to go right back in and unlock gear for another job. The campaign is so casuals like me can go in and pre-farm KI, get some chances at some needed starstones and actually maximize my main run. They're there so people don't have to feel like they're losing out if they want to help someone (who actually needs it) with H unlocks.


Nothing personal to anyone here, but if you're progressed past the point of needing anything like this then you didn't need a campaign. Are you struggling?
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