Dev Tracker - Discussion

The two new tracks:

I'm also happy about it. I stopped doing Limbus climbs after I finished augmenting the Alabaster Earring and got most of the way on the Murky Ring. Limbus is so boring and I still have fun doing Sortie/Odyssey/Dynamis-D/Omen. I'd rather spend time on stuff that's enjoyable than do Limbus climbs even if that means missing out on some better armor.

I'm just hoping I can get the grip by touching the ???s and won't need to do any full climbs.

here we are. A montage of all the new weapons. 15 in total because grip has nothing to see.

They don't seem to be that bad to me, tbf. They are offhand weapons for sure, so the 2H versions suck but 2H users get the grip.

The HQ2 dagger looks like a decent offhand for high end fights where you can't get away with Centovente, no?

I didn't even think about this because it would be insane, but I imagine it's just like the armor, in that you need the shards to only make the jewel needed to uncurse the gear, but once the item is eligible for augments, you simply use matter to upgrade them the same way you would armor. If they are following the same pattern.

TYTY! tho the how the arrow on the bow is being held kinda concerns me... is that feet?

I think I'd rather have gleti's knife over telopanos. I guess it depends on whether or not you can use the pdl. High level Nms are the most likely use case here, so I'd say it's a toss up. 10 PDL versus 6% Triple attack, 15 dex/agi, better acc/attack and 10 subtle blow II. If you get mileage from the extra accuracy on gleti's I'd still probably default to that. Also subtle blow II is really nice on stuff like gartell. If you're buffed enough to utilize the PDL and don't have gleti's ranked up yet I can see it. It can go wither way tbh.



Don't pay too much attention to the cat in the background. The focus is just to show off the weapons. It's a model viewer idiosynchrosy. I couldnt get it to line up nicely so I just went with something for expedieancy. Either it was the wrong race's model or I just didn't find a good animation to pair with it. It still shows off the model for the bow just fine. That's all I was going for. In game it'll work just like all other bows. I promise you the in game dats and races and animations are properly aligned.

All of the mithra weapons were neatly aligned 1 after another toward the end of the new files, but for whatever reason every race's bows were at the very end of the new dats and all the shields were clumped together at the very start. They weren't alongside the other weapons for each race. The dats aren't always neatly ordered so it is what it is.

Is that the h2h above the dagger at the top? That's actually kind of good looking.

Thank you for this, I was trying to look for these songs in the setbgm addon but it doesn't list the new songs

Someone mentioned it in a discord about the weapons but it would be hilariously evil if the new su5 had a latent to ignore Limbus mobs DT, making them BiS inside Limbus and trash everywhere else lol

It is. The H2H is kinda neat. It almost looks like a curved bladed fisticuffs. Most of the two handed weapons are toward the bottom, with the staff toward the middle. I really like the staff design. The open circle bit at the front is very unique and I think quite cool. The great axe is second from bottom right and I'm not really sure what to make of it. It's vaguely reminding me of something with the specific curvature of the blades, but I can't place my finger on what that is.

It was what I expected (not latent, just the basic effect). I doubt it though.

setbgm hasn't been updated to include the new tracks so you'd have to edit the lua manually, any naming will work if you want to but we'll probably see the true OST names of the new tracks later from SE.

I can't say I agree with this. Even if they ignored limbus dt the fact is that prime weaponskills are so insanely broken just having access to them makes them BiS. Chango underperforms pretty terribly compared to simple savage blade spam, and the reason is because upheaval is multi hit and thus not a part of the 80-85% WSD single hit meta. Laphria is so far ahead of it it's kind of dumb, and it's all because of Disaster. Savage blade and all the savage blade knockoffs just synergise too well with nyame. Diasater, Diarmuid, Origin, Fimbulvetr, Mumei, and of course Savage Blade and Rudra's Storm are the stars of the meta for a reason. A generic weapon with no attached weaponskill isn't necessarily better. A good group will chew through a group of limbus mobs even WITH their 50% DT, largely because 80-85% WSD 1 hit fTP scaling weaponskills are too effective right now and everything combat related revolves around them.

That said, If they ignored limbus mob DT I could definitely see monk playing around with the H2H in limbus, especially with hoxne ampulla, since H2H weaponskills are the outlier and don't follow savage blade mechanics. THAT would be something to see.

This is inaccurate. You do need 5 race shards to create the appropriate Jewel used for RPing the gear after it is un-cursed.

In description From the 24th anniversary video, it says

Music: Naoshi Mizuta (SQUARE ENIX)
[Lumina Angels]

Maybe my understanding of the process is incomplete, because I haven't augmented a single thing beyond R1 Alabaster earring, and I've only made 5 unaugmented Revelation pieces (I just have a few dozen unused matters).

Help me understand: to augment each RP rank, you need 5 shards PLUS 1 of each matter per rank? Or only need the 5 shards for the initial uncursing of the gear? I haven't ever gotten that far so I just don't really know, only what I've read.

yes

(presumably the weapons need one of each shard instead of 5 of the same, which makes it a little *more* annoying if you're farming your own race shards)

Wow. Gasp. You know, I am so out of the loop with Limbus because it is so terrible, I honestly never bothered understanding the process beyond getting the base gear. I wondered why people were buying the hell out of my Mercy shards seconds after putting them up, surely there couldn't be THAT much demand for base Clemency pieces. Holy Moly.

I'm kind of slow so help me out: 5 shards per rank means you need 150 shards to R30 a single piece of gear, and 60 matters total (30 of each), plus the initial 5 shards and 2 matters to uncurse is that right?

grand total 152 shards, 62 matters?
not sure what the total unit cost is without looking it up

(at current cost of 1m/mercy shard, thats 152M to R30 a single piece of armor. Bro, what?)

I have been living under a rock (mindlessly doing limbus climbs), and I'm going back there.

That is my understanding, yea. According to the wiki, the same item used in uncursing is used for each augment rank(which is obtained by trading the 2 matters and 5 shards). I assume the weapons are the same.

Step 1: Combine 1 alabaster matter + 1 murky matter + 5 race shards at the synergy furnace == Jewel of that race

To uncurse a piece of gear trade the cursed piece + 1 jewel of appropriate type to the synergy furnace == get the base uncursed piece

To rank up the gear's augments trade the uncursed armor + 1 jewel to the furnace to gain one rank

---You need 30 jewels to go from rank 1 to rank 30. The weapons apparently use shards from all 5 races instead of just one race, but the process is the same. If nothing else it'll at least put a slight demand on tarutaru shards, which have up until now been utterly ignored.

Welp. Here all this time I was thinking I had all these matters, I could go straight fromm R0->R30. Completely missed the part about needing a jewel for every rank. Thanks for clarifying. I certainly will not be upgrading any of this armor anytime soon.

Yeah, 155 associated shards + 31 alabaster matter + 31 murky matter for going from uncursing all the way to R30 (plus units of course), unless you started with NQ/HQ1 in which case add +5 shards/+1 alabaster/+1 murky if you plan to transfer augments to HQ2 in the future.

Right. I'm currently augmenting my duty armor, which uses mithra shards, so I lucked out for the time being. That said, I don't get enough shards on my own so I still have to buy shards of justice off the auction house from time to time to supplement the ones that drop to me directly to make all the jewels I need. If I was working on revelation or another set it would be more frustrating because I'd have to sell my justice shards to buy hume shards. The weapons need one of each races shard per rank apparently

The whole thing is a very grindy mess.


Statistically galka is the lowest played population race by a significant margin. There's tons of mithras and tarus and humes and quite a lot of elvaan, but very few people play galka. So the supply for galka shards is lowest but the demand for clemancy gear is still quite high. Congratulations! lucky you. Supply and demand at its finest heh.

The only saving grace for me is I want(ed) to upgrade Sworn set first, which uses Trust shards, but I earn Mercy shards (Clemency set) being Galka, so I either break even or make a small amount of gil selling my shards and buying Trust shards. So it doesn't cost me anything. Still, my small stash of Mercy shards that I started saving about a month ago is only 1/5 of the way there. I had planned to cash out when I hit a stack, but now it looks like I'll have to come up off them pockets eventually.

It's almost as if s-e is trying to goad us into paying them money for the race change feature to do this content. Surely that never crossed their minds when they released the race change content literally at the same time limbus became available. Definitely wasn't on their minds at all. Nope!

weapons require the new material that come from black chests?

BG says accumulated RP from R0->R30 is 629,650 Units. I don't even have a sixth of that number. So I can continue to operate in ignorance because I'm nowhere close to being able to max out anything in one go. I was operating in delusion for a while, but I appreciate you bringing me back to reality.

There's a dramatic spike in the unit cost to go from Rank 20 to Rank 30. The last 5 levels are especially brutal. You can go from 1-20 in about a third of the final cost.