Dev Tracker - Discussion

BST and Monstrosity need to be combined. Miniaturize the models but keep the system and nerf/buff over the next year to balance it all.

To different extents, but yeah absolutely concur with that.

Speaking of which, how nice would it be if they allowed us to get a third 5/5 upgrade in each #1 and #2 merits? <3

Pet jobs are held back by the clunky UI and having to press buttons to get pet to do anything, which leads to pathing fun, server lag, clunkiness and Mavis Beacons Teaches XI syndrome.

People need to stop saying SE in relation to updates, there are 3 people assigned to the game and 1 isn't even supposed to do anything but paperwork as the producer.

Considering that they are doing a lot, they are also working on more complex things behind the scenes like blue and trust changes.

If an update just says about Ambuscade, there is no update. That's just a maintenance day.

Ninja is working as intended. It has tank stance, dd stance, magical ws dmg, ninjutsu burst damage, high evasion, and subtle blow. It’s not as high physical damage as war, drk, Sam, Drg, but it has a lot of unique abilities. It does great in limbus NMs!

Do we really think it's acceptable to view
a) a gil-sink accessory designed to appeal mostly to the elite players (with a base price tag that's more than a R15 Mythic),
b) a weapon that needs Odyssey v25 T3 clears to access its truly valuable augment, and
c) an ultra-limited mog bonanza weapon (and if you missed out on the freebie or had another priority, OOPS too bad)

As good ways to do job balancing?

You're not wrong that those items have value for BST (among other jobs), but if you actually wanted to improve a job, those items aren't all that viable for the vast majority of players.

Especially considering this is BST we're talking about. BSTs are already antisocial weirdos who want to hang out with French cats, kind slugs, and big crickets instead of, you know, other PEOPLE. That makes Ody NMs even harder, and my gil is already stretched a little thin due to my cigarette, wine, and baguette budget for me and my buddy Vivacious Gaston.


I mean, they wouldn't complain! And by they, I mean me.


(note that I have no idea why a monthly update being small turned into BST JOB ADJUSTMENTS discussion hour, but hey let's roll with it. I'm sure not actually expecting any attention to improving BST via job balancing efforts though.)

And it doesnt excel at any of those roles(especially in tanking anything above 1 mob), it's a RDM except RDM still has its enfeeb/enhancing and now DD aspect to stand out, what nin does have is good physical mitigation which yes for limbus is great because old content encounters didnt yet have shadow stripping as their default, this is also true for alot of ody climbs if you wanna use nin in place of another DD they can do pretty well since hybrids can be exploited pretty regularly in there.

Still pretty poor elsewhere though, not unusable but not a 1st 2nd or 3rd choice either, granted this isnt unique to nin, plenty of other jobs(like pets) are in this spot and ill say that unlike THF, NIN can still use 90% of its kit solo, so it can always be worse.

Now if they keep putting out more older mob types then NIN can probably find its niche among those kinda like how it was in Dyna-D for a time, which is nice i suppose, and is probably the best place NIN can be in; mid-upper mid if hybrids work that can basically ignore phys dmg/eat a killing TP move through migawari

Not that I think Bonanza weapons = viable ways to balance jobs (as I said above), but if we did take that position, NIN's ability to put shadows on party members with Yagyu Darkblade is pretty cool for a lot of current content like Limbus, segments, Dyna[D] (if that's "current" enough), some Ambuscades.

And yeah, if hybrids work it's a pretty strong hybrid DPS job. Moderately high requirements to make that shine though, Aeonic (or Mythic) and augmented Nyame. Though really, even R15 or R20 Nyame is good and people want that anyway for lots of jobs, so it's less of a pain than something like the BST Ikenga Axe example that needs v25 T3 wins on an NM that only gives gear used by a smaller handful of jobs (RNG COR WAR BST NIN).

If people actually did legit Exemplar points, NIN's also pretty great there - including some pretty potent SC/MBs. IDK that I can fully blame SE for botting taking that off the table for many (though I kinda CAN fully blame SE for creating the conditions to incentivize such botting by making the grind so oppressive).