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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-28 18:31:49
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Asura.Aeonova said: »

Like, -I- know you're being facetious. But there is a noticeable between 2004 open world event and 2018 timed instanced "big" event.

Asura.Topace said: »
SE can spray as much perfume as they want on dyna is still going to be ***underneath. Anymore questions?

But, if you could choose, would you rather have it be purposely worse than it could be? It won't ever be FUN, but it could be less punishing. It has to be... dare I say... properly balanced.
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2018-06-28 18:41:56
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Ah damn... if it was one question I liked answered...I would asked "Where's our new food !?"
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-06-28 19:27:32
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I mean, Dynamis being fun or not is subjective. I enjoy the new dynamis if I have managed the right configuration for my group.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2018-06-28 19:28:07
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You're free to do so. You're just not allowed to *** about it.

It's your own fault if you choose to do it.

It's a very real fact that Divergence was poorly made/implemented/designed.

And if you failed to realize, almost everything I complained about in regards to divergence, they've adjusted. (I'm not saying they adjusted it directly because, I specifically, am the one that complained.)
I'm not complaining about Dynamis. I'm complaining about you. Sure, in THIS thread you're complaining about Dynamis. But in the other thread, you're complaining because when SE asked for your gender in the survey, they were inclusive. That was a problem for you because you have some sort of prejudice against Japanese people.

Asura.Eiryl said: »
I just find it extremely unlikely a japanese company gives a ***about transgender as an option. even if pretending to care what NA players think.

And it basically goes on and on like this. Every time you say something, it's a complaint. Even if you can't find anything remotely concrete, you'll just do logical gymnastics to come up with something. Just go do something else.
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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-28 19:41:40
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You don't have to like what I say, but I'm always correct. If not being hyperbolic.

I literally encourage you to block me. Saves everyone the irritation of me replying to you.

Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I mean, Dynamis being fun or not is subjective. I enjoy the new dynamis if I have managed the right configuration for my group.

Is the EVENT fun, or is it the people, that MAKE it fun.
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By Staleyx 2018-06-28 19:43:11
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I'm complaining that you aren't complaining about his complaining damnit.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-28 20:20:20
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Caerda said: »
Looks like another waste of an update. Not worth resubbing again... Maybe next month.

A little pre-mature, these weapons could be ZOMGWTFBBQ

As far as actual content, wouldn't start holding your breath until october/november.
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2018-06-28 20:22:14
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
You don't have to like what I say, but I'm always correct. If not being hyperbolic.

I literally encourage you to block me. Saves everyone the irritation of me replying to you.
People who believe they are always right never grow.
 
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By Asura.Topace 2018-06-28 20:23:49
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Make Campaign Great Again!


Fix MNK Weaponskills!


Give us the campaign WS pls. Make yourselves useful for once.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2018-06-28 20:32:19
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I forgot that campaign WS exist, most of the time, unless piddling around on a mule and Valernial uses that AoE sword (Glory... Blade?) and draws AoE aggro.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-06-28 20:35:02
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Asura.Topace said: »
Make Campaign Great Again!
i know it's not gonna happen, but ilvl Campaign would be really fun. :o
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2018-06-28 20:37:48
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Bahamut.Negan said: »
Asura.Topace said: »
Make Campaign Great Again!
i know it's not gonna happen, but ilvl Campaign would be really fun. :o

Yes!!! I'll bring out my WHM/NIN just for sh~ts
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By Asura.Topace 2018-06-28 21:18:34
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Asura.Aeonova said: »
I forgot that campaign WS exist, most of the time, unless piddling around on a mule and Valernial uses that AoE sword (Glory... Blade?) and draws AoE aggro.
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I think all of them are AoE but SE could probably work them into being Single target for us? They're cool looking been wanting em for awhile.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2018-06-28 22:18:18
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I mean, Dynamis being fun or not is subjective. I enjoy the new dynamis if I have managed the right configuration for my group.

Is the EVENT fun, or is it the people, that MAKE it fun.
This applies to literally every group based event that has ever existed in any MMO ever.
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By Nyarlko 2018-06-28 23:14:46
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Caerda said: »
Looks like another waste of an update. Not worth resubbing again... Maybe next month.

A little pre-mature, these weapons could be ZOMGWTFBBQ

As far as actual content, wouldn't start holding your breath until october/november.

If they are ZOMGWTFBBQ good, then expect 300mil price tags for a while. Somebody will pay it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-28 23:27:22
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If they're less than a straight billion they're underselling it cause *** those shields
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By Asura.Aeonova 2018-06-29 03:35:21
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Asura.Topace said: »
Asura.Aeonova said: »
I forgot that campaign WS exist, most of the time, unless piddling around on a mule and Valernial uses that AoE sword (Glory... Blade?) and draws AoE aggro.
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I think all of them are AoE but SE could probably work them into being Single target for us? They're cool looking been wanting em for awhile.

How funny that at 2:09, the MNK WS can't kill any of the enemies it hits. Most of the other ones shown hit 3 enemies and wipe all three. I guess MNK WS have been lagging since Campaign. Hue hue.

Also, I hadn't really noticed that there were more than 3 Campaign WS. Each nation in the past got a special weapon with a campaign-only WS. THose were all I really recalled. 2 swords and a staff WS. I guess I do recall a few NPC generals using custom WS while in campaign battle though.
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By Ruaumoko 2018-06-29 05:22:26
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Honestly, the only thing stopping me from doing consistent Dynamis these days are my work hours having shifted so I can't make LS runs anymore.

I do hope the weapons have WSs attached to them.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2018-06-29 05:36:12
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
I mean, Dynamis being fun or not is subjective. I enjoy the new dynamis if I have managed the right configuration for my group.

Is the EVENT fun, or is it the people, that MAKE it fun.

I said the right configuration, not the right people. As long as my group is mechanically working, it's fun, I get to smash faces with a bit of differences per mob and some NM's to get to go at it longer. I enjoy playing THF, and almost any situation where I get solid buffs and get to have at it I enjoy.

Of course I've had to play on other jobs frequently either to get clears or for configuration purposes, and that is a whole different story for my enjoyment, especially because my other jobs aren't always worth giving max buffs, nor did the group I was in give a ***to toss my way. For example COR is a lot of fun in Dynamis...until I get to NM's. One shotting statues doesn't really deserve bard buffs for trash, which then makes NM's a shooting fest and I find that boring.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-29 07:52:02
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Anybody noticed how the "future upgrades" mentioned are only for Relic, Mythic and Empyrean weapon?
Ergon probably fall down under the Mythic category.

But the noticeable absence here is that of Aeonic.
Maybe that's for good? Time will tell I guess.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-29 07:53:33
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Aeonic weapons(*) (overall) are imbalanced. They don't need an improvement.

Touched on this in the THF thread.

Asura.Eiryl said: »
Look at a piece to piece comparison;

Relic gets nothing, it's delay is low, neat.
Empyrean gets +50 DEX and low delay.
Mythic gets nothing (sa/ta +30%) (but it's not a pure 30% damage increase)
Aeonic gets STP(The best stat in the game(assuming haste capped etc)) Tpbonus (the best WSstat in the game) and increased SC damage and a special skillchain.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-29 08:45:18
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Double cause reasons;

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All Worlds Maintenance (Jul. 4, 5)

At the following time, we will be performing server maintenance in order to accompany a version update for FINAL FANTASY XI. During this period, FINAL FANTASY XI will be unavailable.

*Update details will be announced on Jul. 4, 2018 (PDT)
*Update details will be announced on Jul. 5, 2018 (GMT/BST)

[Date & Time]
Jul. 4, 2018 22:00 to 23:30 (PDT)
Jul. 5, 2018 5:00 to 6:30 (GMT)
Jul. 5, 2018 6:00 to 7:30 (BST)
* Completion time is subject to change.

[Affected Service]
FINAL FANTASY XI
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By Bismarck.Rwolf 2018-06-29 11:02:47
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Asura.Aeonova said: »
How funny that at 2:09, the MNK WS can't kill any of the enemies it hits. Most of the other ones shown hit 3 enemies and wipe all three. I guess MNK WS have been lagging since Campaign. Hue hue.

It's a Campaign WS video but some of them are just special abilities. The one at 2:09 is Reverie Frolic, a debuff dance. The MNK WS, Leonyne Legflail is at 3:16.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2018-06-29 12:13:09
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Oh wow they picked an American holiday where a lot of us actually won't be in game....
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2018-06-29 12:39:28
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Footwork and Fireworks - It's the much anticipated MNK fix.
Please look forward to it.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-06-29 14:45:47
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Anybody noticed how the "future upgrades" mentioned are only for Relic, Mythic and Empyrean weapon?
Ergon probably fall down under the Mythic category.

But the noticeable absence here is that of Aeonic.
Maybe that's for good? Time will tell I guess.

My interpretation is that this is a a tacit admission that the devs realize that they did nothing to prevent the SMN-burn Aeonic factory, so they're addressing it now through power creep. Intentionally allowing RME weapons to leapfrog past (or further ahead of, as the case may be) Aeonics.

Frankly, I kinda like the approach. Once the SMN train started, it was too late at that point to do a SMN nerf or change Aeonic NMs - that horse was already out of the barn. Far better to just let the Aeonic/AC zergs have their limelight and just deal with making the shinies a bit more obsolete later. Aeonics are obviously still gonna be *good*, but I've got no problem if the general pecking order ends up with them being a notch lower than further buffed RME. We'll have to see where the new crafted Divergence weapons end up on that spectrum.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-06-29 14:54:54
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Real question

Will there be a divergence harp or horn?
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By Tarage 2018-06-29 15:01:27
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Eiryl is there any reason you're still here shitposting? You clearly don't enjoy the game and have either quit or want to quit. That's fine. No one is forcing you to play. But for ***'s sake, can you please stop pissing all over the people who DO want to play? You're being an ***.
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