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Your ls leader has spent hundreds of mils buying HQ jinxed and Su3 from my mule. Sure hope he isn't just marking it up and selling it to you claiming it's clean, lmao

Can't blame them if they don't know what you are.
Also it should be obvious now that you infect every server you go to.

The idea of not being part of the economy as a self sustaining linkshell makes about as much sense as the people who do it in real life. It's just not realistic or efficient.

To elaborate further:

If you have 3 characters who you use to bot sparks while you are asleep, go and spend the sparks when you get up, and repeat the process while you're at work, you're looking at 180 million gil per month with no input on your own part. (1 mil per character, times three characters, times two farms per day.) Four characters, and it's 240 million gil while you sleep and are at work. I know people who do this.

Meanwhile, I farm Dynamis as DNC/--- with TH3, and spend two hours to come out with ~700 currency, on average, making ~2.1 million gil per farm. (~1 mil per hour.) This means that I need to spend 180 hours per month, or six hours per day, farming Dynamis just to make the same amount of money someone botting makes while they're asleep and at work. That six hours a day of actually being at their computer they can then use to do whatever else, which can include "soloing" content and selling the drops, the money from which they don't need to share with anyone.

How the hell am I supposed to compete with that? My Dancer is well geared, but nowhere near as well geared as DDs of some of the people I know who can afford BiS everything (that can be bought), and have multiple DD jobs mastered. (Especially when I don't get to play anything but White Mage because these people would rather spend 600 million gil gearing 2-3 DD or Tank jobs than spend 100 million or less getting WHM up to snuff. Even if you 'require' your WHM to have a Yagrush, that's ~167 million gil, which is less than they make while botting for a month.)

And I can't afford BiS everything because dropping 30 million gil on a piece of gear is nothing for them, whereas that's 30 hours of farming dynamis for me, and that's assuming I don't have to put up with botters in Dynamis!

If I sound ridiculously salty, I am. I love this game, but it is completely unenjoyable for me, and people botting contributes to a large part of that.

I think the ironic part is the linkshell he's in. Do you not realize that your linkshell is half the problem lol?

And gain-money is absolutely regoddamndiculous. it should not be a thing.

I don't know for a fact she was reselling and I have nothing against her. It could just be for herself and her mules, but she did buy multiple of the same sets.

It is true that stage 2/3 shield is essentially useless for most synths though, unless you want to pay 2x+ the item's cost in mats.

I don't see how you can claim you isolated yourselves from the economy when your leader and huge handfuls of your members routinely buy their gear (in gil, just so there's no doubt here, I am not accusing anyone of RMT or naming $ buyers) from me.

Can't take off your pearl when you're unsubscribed.

Because I cannot "just do me". Do you not understand that someone having 3-4x the resources I do to gear their characters,

I definitely agree that botting isn't fair and it's not possible to "just do you" unless you never pt with others.

However I think you are exaggerating the advantage botters have, and half of your problem came from your ls. You may want to look for a smaller ls with less top end dd and do more lowman.

While it sounds convenient to bot a ton and every job mastered/HQ, in real Endgame most of those doesn't matter as much unless your ls management is crap. A person with multiple hq dd don't necessarily bring more value than someone with 1 hq dd, 1 functional mage and 1 support. Due to how job role overlapping = not useful. A player with Multiple hq dd also don't necessarily bring more value than someone with 1 hq dd and works better in a team.

Nevermind the fact that a job needs to be constantly played to be good at it. I certainly wouldn't be good at any of my job if I don't play them for 3 months, or if I don't bring them to certain event. It shows on parses when I forgot certain ja or didn't use it right, and so on.

So I'm having hard time believing someone with 22 jobs hq/mastered could play all jobs better than someone focus on playing/optimizing 1-2. I run into rich no life players like this all the time, most of the time they are good at 2-3 jobs at most and remaining are functional at best.

When it come Gil and hq, there are many good ways to farm Gil. I completed all of my su3 hq, hq accessories and relic +3 from ambuscade and random farmings exclusively, some came from dyna D campaign. Bot only affects solo players, not so much to groups.

So saying someone that bot has HUGE advantage over those who doesn't is false.

Apparently I live in a different reality from you, since you seem to live in one where a person being able to buy all the alexandrite to make a mythic with money made while they were asleep and at work is not considered a huge advantage over other people who have to generate that money through personal effort instead of via botting.

Are you seriously suggesting that someone with 3 characters getting 180 million gil a month from botting while they're at work and asleep is not a huge advantage over those who don't?

Their multi billion dollar value attest to that.

The only reason they make money is addiction, not business sense. They're straight HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE in ability to make good business decisions.

Addiction can’t be quantified, let alone build a business model off of.