Random Politics & Religion #28: The Last One

And it's that type of thinking that gets people fired from their jobs for wishing harm towards others when events like this occur.

Just ask Hayley Geftman-Gold.

Just to clarify here. I do not disagree with you per se. I don't think there are simple solutions to this issue. But I would pose this question:

Should we not then lighten up alllaws, penalties, and restrictions -- not just on guns, but on everything -- since people are just going to keep doing them anyhow?

You show me a gun law that actually works I'll support it.

I have very little faith in any gun law that will prevent crime.

Las Vegas shooter was a 'reclusive weirdo' who kept his guns stashed in a refrigerator-sized SAFE and vanished suddenly in August, say his former neighbors at his Reno home

Sounds likes a member of FFXIAH...

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No. Actually, I think we should tighten them up a little more. Make it even more of a punishment to break such laws.

Now, it's not going to stop certain acts from occurring (especially in this case, since the guy was planning on taking his own life anyway). It will, however, deter people from committing crimes if they get more than a slap on the wrist, in some cases.

Tbh, I think that smaller crimes (theft under $500, for example) should be punished by a fine 10 times the value of the theft itself, and, most especially crimes involving fraud, should be punished with 20 times the value of the fraud, and lose the ability to file for bankruptcy due to this.

But that's just me.

Look, I took from your above quoted post that those who own guns get what's deserving of them. If that's not your intent, then I'm sorry that I misinterpreted it.

Our culture involves the recreational use of guns. If you go by certain websites and liberal activists, you would think that there's mass shootings in the scale of Las Vegas happening every day in this country.

It certainly is not true.

Yes, there are crazies out there who will use a gun to solve their problems (marital, work, or just the general grievance of society), but taking away the tool doesn't mean that they will not do it anymore. Just ask the guy who rammed his airplane in the Austin IRS building (while a hero to some, especially since he was flying with 3 years of amended tax returns that he had to amend due to an IRS audit, is still pretty stupid in my eyes).

I think we can lower the number of these type of mass shootings if:

1. We stop glorifying them.
2. We put more effort in mental research and care, especially regards to giving more/better access to mental hospitals.
3. We stop glorifying them, period. I mean, what better way of going out with a bang if people are going to talk about it for years/decades to come?

Well.. since it's the exact same people that think the "war on drugs" and all the tougher laws, harsher penalties and longer prison sentences that came along with it...are dumb and futile and pointless.... who are in the next breath asking for tougher laws, harsher penalties and longer prison sentences...in essence a "war on guns"... I feel the need to point out that the crazy *** in vegas willfully broke all of our laws against MURDER, which in vegas is punishable by death by lethal injection

so... we can therefore presume with relative certainty that he would not have been deterred by some dopey limitation or fine on clip size or the type of weapon he could posses EVEN IF IT WAS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.

let that soak in for a minute.

if the death penalty isn't deterrent enough to stop these *** then what penalty do you imagine would have an effect on them?

public vivisection?

Where's the fun in THAT?

So the entire rest of tha planet has fewer mass shootings than the USA. Your point is?

Guns allowed, water guns banned in the Republican National Convention

Cleveland.com, June 3, 2016

If caught alive, a lifetime of torture by forcing them to listen to Justin Beiber for the rest of their lives in a padded room could be deterrent enough.

I mean, why else do these people kill themselves before being taken in?

Publicized shootings. If you add up all of the local mass shootings that don't get noticed beyond the border, you would be highly surprised at how little mass shootings happen in the US compared to the rest of the world.

Hell, Syria alone has more mass shootings per year than the US has per decade. There's more murder in the Middle East than in the US.

But I guess you don't like obvious facts if it's detriment to your cause....

I'm not on team "ban all the guns."

I'm on team "lessen punitive punishment for petty criminals and rehab them because punishment as a deterrent doesn't work so hot."

I am rarely here other than early in my morning. So I amn't always timely in my responses.

Roll the dice. Go to work.

Not being cowed into staying home afraid because there might be a guy with a gun when I go to sporting events, movies, or concerts.

By that standard WWII was the biggest mass shooting of all.

No law is enacted with the premise of preventing crime. The premise is punishment for the crime. Regulations on the other hand are enacted with the premise of prevention.

If only we had an anthropomorphic dog to stop crime....

Thanks. I needed a change of avatar for a bit.

Also, not sure how many people here will get it.

Did we ban tall buildings yet ? I mean this guy set the standard for other mass shootings.

Sure, if you want to go back that far in history, even though the subject is recent history/today.

Feels allegorical to the current "debate"

Well at least you can feel things...I haven't felt anything in 15 years !

Yea we know... since season 10 of the Simpsons.

Why you give a ***about this is beyond me. After the thoughts and prayers and call for gun control. We will be back to bashing Trump and bitching and moaning. So might as well get with the program.