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 Sammeh
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By Sammeh 2017-07-20 18:54:49
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So like... I have always known you could Cure undead for dmg. I knew you could even magic burst it. but I never knew it could do really high damage......

Not the highest level target - but was still fun to do. A few things I've learned in playing w/ this for about an hour:
1) Cure Potency doesn't seem to increase dmg, at least no where like MAB / MBB.
2) I tried adding a lil more MND and it didn't seem to impact damage at all.
3) Seemingly Arbatel +1 didn't increase damage as much as a well augmented merlinic.
4) Other than weatherspoon ring, I mainly went w/ my normal MAB/MagicBurst set.
5) I'm sure I could push a little higher but this was good enough to play with...

A quick example:

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Whee - 77457 Damage Cure IV.

-Sam
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mithlas 2017-07-20 19:08:09
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I never knew that cure could be MBed... Noice :o
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-07-20 19:18:49
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Sammeh said: »
So like... I have always known you could Cure undead for dmg. I knew you could even magic burst it. but I never knew it could do damage......

Not the highest level target - but was still fun to do. A few things I've learned in playing w/ this for about an hour:
1) Cure Potency doesn't seem to increase dmg, at least no where like MAB / MBB.
2) I tried adding a lil more MND and it didn't seem to impact damage at all.
3) Seemingly Arbatel +1 didn't increase damage as much as a well augmented merlinic.
4) Other than weatherspoon ring, I mainly went w/ my normal MAB/MagicBurst set.
5) I'm sure I could push a little higher but this was good enough to play with...

A quick example:

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Whee - 77457 Damage Cure IV.

-Sam


Ok your first statement confused me you knew curing undead does damage but didn't realize it could do damage?
 
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By Sammeh 2017-07-20 19:25:26
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haha the excitement got me ;)

*real* damage! or as Lennart put it haha
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By Odin.Drakenv 2017-07-20 19:46:18
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Bismarck.Lennart said: »
"Do damage but didn't know it could do DAMAGE
But it does damage or do you mean "good damage." BAh quantico. I'm
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2017-07-20 20:11:14
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Well ***. This is the dawn of a new CP party type. Going down to Ra'kaznar with a shitload of WHM to cure bomb the ever loving hell out of skeletons.

Now I need to know how Cure V and Cure VI perform against Undead. And what does Full Cure do? Do cures hit the successive magic damage wall like other magic does? Logic presumes yes, but it bares testing anyway.

Does anyone have a dope MAB/MBB set for WHM who could see what happens?

Also, do Rapture and Divine Seal stack?
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2017-07-20 20:46:49
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Made a toggle for my whm for this. Went out to Xarc S. Cure VI doing like 3750. Full cure only did 950~.

Most of my gear I set though is for MB. So, will have a better idea dmg wise later
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By Leviathan.Vedder 2017-07-20 20:51:00
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At least now whm can cp better then as a mb'er and healer. How do their banish spells hold up in a magic burst?
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By Sammeh 2017-07-20 21:29:08
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Holy Circle (PLD) should give this ~ 15% more dmg.

Corsair would also increase it.

Wonder if we can push this to 99k.

-Sam
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2017-07-20 21:35:37
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Def looks to be Scholar exclusive on the really high damage. Or just maybe with a GEO + Rapture.
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By Asura.Warusha 2017-07-20 21:36:37
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ItemSet 351869

BLM/RDM

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By Asura.Warusha 2017-07-20 21:38:05
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Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Def looks to be Scholar exclusive on the really high damage. Or just maybe with a GEO + Rapture.

They used bolster.
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2017-07-20 21:39:35
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WHM is just fairly mediocre at it. Even nicely augmented Chironic gear, you have to sacrifice a bit to make a good MBB set on WHM.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2017-07-20 22:53:24
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Without bolster he still hit 70k

But rapture is kinda important for this.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-21 02:00:24
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inb4 {Capacity Points} {Looking for members} SCH SCH SCH SCH GEO COR {/tell}
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By Sammeh 2017-07-21 08:55:30
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Asura.Warusha said: »
Leviathan.Stamos said: »
Def looks to be Scholar exclusive on the really high damage. Or just maybe with a GEO + Rapture.

They used bolster.

Was 70k w/o bolster.. bolster only added 7k to it.

-Sam
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By Sammeh 2017-07-21 08:57:34
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Just an FYI - we tried Belphegor - didn't go very high but he has some massive MDB. I think hit ~ 14k. Then Crom Dubh we hit ~ 22k. (Non bolstered these).

-Sam
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2017-07-21 09:08:47
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Accession + Rapture + Cure 4 work for AoE?
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By Ruaumoko 2017-07-21 09:16:13
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Ok, that's seriously gangster.

...What if... Fusion and mass Full-Cure on Vinipata is how we should have been killing it all along?

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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-21 09:52:45
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Ruaumoko said: »
Ok, that's seriously gangster.

...What if... Fusion and mass Full-Cure on Vinipata is how we should have been killing it all along?


It's worth a test. Replace a couple BLMs with SCH and see what happens.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-07-21 10:04:38
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As neat as it is, BLM shouldn't have any trouble hitting 99k on a first burst vs apex with malaise. Someone just posted nearly doing it with a t2, lol. Unless it avoids the multiple nuke penalty or there's some other compelling reason to use it, seems like just novelty.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2017-07-21 10:08:45
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Whats faster rng burn or sch cure burns on vini -

place bets NOW!!!!
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-07-21 10:15:11
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i'd wager it's still fusion + fire, at 2-3 min

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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-07-21 10:19:03
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What is this screenshot supposed to prove?
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By Sammeh 2017-07-21 10:20:05
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I can confirm now that Accession Cure does indeed do an AOE nuke.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2017-07-21 10:20:18
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The question was if SCH cure nukes would beat RNG in speed at vinipata. It might, but RNG is a ***standard to compare to. Even post GEO nerf, BLMs drop it in 2-3 minutes. The screenshot shows it by illustrating a ~5% vinipata 2:22 into the fight(timer disappears when it dies, so easier to fit into one screenshot).
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2017-07-21 10:27:05
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How many people is that? We bring 18 and clear in 6 mins with rngs
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