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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-06-01 14:41:43
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Saevel, that was for KN who actually knows something about taxation and economics.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 14:41:59
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Of the 2,400 coal-fired power plants under construction or being planned around the world, 1,171 will be built in China. This rapid growth of coal power means that, mathematically, Chinese carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are unlikely to stop rising.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/03/what-global-warming-china-still-plans-to-build-new-coal-plant-every-week-in-2020/

According to Vic's article hey are cutting ~103 of those 1171 projects. How's dumping more co2 into the atmosphere progress again? Simply because it's not as much as previously planned?

Sobwhats that a new coal plant every week and 12 hours, instead of a week?

Also what point is someone trying to prove pointing out that a communist government adopts a highly regulated energy sector? Central planners love curbing economic growth for the sake of government power under the ruse of protecting the environment.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-01 14:42:28
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It sounds like it is official now. If this deal is going to affect us for the next several decades, is the Left conceding that they won't have one of their own in the White House in that span of time? Because I'm pretty sure the next Dem will just hop back into the faux treaty.

Maybe instead of complaining, they can spend that time finding a fielding a competent candidate.

.....

Bahahahahahaha, like that'll ever happen.
Well, you laugh, but remember, us Righties gave the world Trump.

We aren't that much better.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 14:46:47
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Trump just saved America by pulling out of his gahbage.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-01 14:48:55
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Saevel, that was for KN who actually knows something about taxation and economics.
..you do know that, unless appropriately named tax (like Federal Gas Tax or most "sin" taxes), it comes out the General Fund. Which, all income tax supports.

There is no specified tax for this, so it's paid 100% by the General Fund.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 14:55:16
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Oh dear God the tears are already flowing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-06-01 15:06:20
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It sounds like it is official now. If this deal is going to affect us for the next several decades, is the Left conceding that they won't have one of their own in the White House in that span of time? Because I'm pretty sure the next Dem will just hop back into the faux treaty.

Maybe instead of complaining, they can spend that time finding a fielding a competent candidate.

.....

Bahahahahahaha, like that'll ever happen.
Well, you laugh, but remember, us Righties gave the world Trump.

We aren't that much better.

And I'll have my fingers crossed for the next few years. In the meantime we have Gorsuch, and that's an excellent start.
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By eliroo 2017-06-01 15:15:30
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Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-01 15:17:38
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eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.
More like "Imperialism vs. Pragmatism" ideologies.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 15:23:13
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eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

Someone clearly doesn't know anything about the genocidal history of socialism.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-06-01 15:25:26
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Imperialism
Nausi said: »
socialism
You guys need a new act.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-01 15:27:13
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
It sounds like it is official now. If this deal is going to affect us for the next several decades, is the Left conceding that they won't have one of their own in the White House in that span of time? Because I'm pretty sure the next Dem will just hop back into the faux treaty.

Maybe instead of complaining, they can spend that time finding a fielding a competent candidate.

.....

Bahahahahahaha, like that'll ever happen.
Well, you laugh, but remember, us Righties gave the world Trump.

We aren't that much better.

President Trump is a collaborative effort by the political establishment. If they had done their jobs and focused on the betterment of the USA over petty personal squabbles then we wouldn't have a President Trump. Both parties have become so entrenched in this political death match that they've completely lost site of their responsibilities to the US citizenry.

President Trump is what happens when a political establishment breaks down. This will continue until the establishment rights itself and starts paying attention to American citizenry and crafts policy that's best for the US citizens, not everyone except the US citizens.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-01 15:29:12
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Nausi said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

Someone clearly doesn't know anything about the genocidal history of socialism.

Marxism, the most lethal weapon of mass destruction to be crafted by human hands. Atomic weapons don't hold a candle to that destructive ideology, hell Hitler couldn't match the body count accumulated by socialist governments asserting themselves.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 15:30:34
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Imperialism
Nausi said: »
socialism
You guys need a new act.
Why? We keep winning with this one.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 15:32:21
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So, someone tell me how our removal from this pact will be catastrophic for the planet.

Just... let your feels out all over the place. Go right ahead, I'll be your shoulder.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-06-01 15:32:32
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eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-06-01 15:44:08
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-06-01 15:53:11
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Sylph.Cherche said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.

I do love it when people try to score argument points against me by accidentally supporting my premise.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-01 15:54:12
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.

But but but don't you want to be a "World Hero" on "Team Good Guys"?
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 15:57:53
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.

But but but don't you want to be a "World Hero" on "Team Good Guys"?
No one would hold it against you if you punched a nazi.

Now let me introduce you anyone not on the left
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-01 16:00:53
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.

I do love it when people try to score argument points against me by accidentally supporting my premise.

The interesting part to note is that the US was never bound to follow that agreement in the first place. Agreements are merely heads of state agreeing to follow some particular piece of agenda and have absolutely zero enforcement attached. See in the USA congressional approval (super majority) is required for the US to enter into an enforceable international treaty. Congress never authorized President Obama to do such a thing and thus the US is under no legal requirement to actually do anything the EU wants.

President Trump doesn't need to "withdraw" from some Executive Agreement as he was never in it to begin with, President Obama was and Executive Agreements like Command Policies do not transfer from one commander to another. The old policies need to be resigned by the new commander in order to have a legal effect.
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 16:01:35
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Well, at least Vox isn't overreacting or anything.

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Trump is pulling the US out of the Paris climate agreement. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-06-01 16:04:25
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Asura.Saevel said: »
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eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.

But but but don't you want to be a "World Hero" on "Team Good Guys"?
We're good guys?

Can you go back to pretending your arguments are entirely objective, despite the fact you're arguing against "feels" with your own?
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By Nausi 2017-06-01 16:11:06
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You're missing his point pretty hard.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-06-01 16:16:44
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
The U.S. is the only country where climate change has been made a political issue. I'm glad you think this is what winning looks like.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-06-01 16:22:37
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Nausi said: »
You're missing his point pretty hard.
Not really.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-01 16:22:49
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.

I do love it when people try to score argument points against me by accidentally supporting my premise.
Kindof like how Trump colluded with Russia through "secret communications channels" to fix the election, then go after Kushner for setting up a backdoor communications channel after the election with Russia (which, frankly, is what every administration does, which is to have world leaders, you know, talk to each other and not expressly through diplomats).

And some people on this website still doesn't understand that this whole Kushner narrative they are pushing pretty underminds and destroys the Trump-Russia narrative they have going on.
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By Sylph.Cherche 2017-06-01 16:24:04
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.

I do love it when people try to score argument points against me by accidentally supporting my premise.
Also, not really. Just making sure Nausi is aware his hero isn't any better than any other politician in the United States.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-01 16:25:57
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Sylph.Cherche said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
eliroo said: »
Glad the future of planet Earth all boils down to a Left vs. Right mentality.

That happens when "the future of planet Earth" is exploited for political gain.
So, exactly what Trumps doing. Gotcha.

I do love it when people try to score argument points against me by accidentally supporting my premise.
Also, not really. Just making sure Nausi is aware his hero isn't any better than any other politician in the United States.
Better than The Anointed One™.
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Also also not really, but okay.
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