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By fonewear 2017-03-03 10:00:55
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
yeah but if we're look for someone both more famous and less qualified than trump to run.. who can really compete with oprah?

she'll get the terrorists' wives hooked on sappy romance novels and their husbands will be too busy Lawrance of Arabiaing to do any terror stuff.

I don't like the name Lawrence only (mod edit) and sailors have that name !
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By Ramyrez 2017-03-03 10:15:40
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fonewear said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
yeah but if we're look for someone both more famous and less qualified than trump to run.. who can really compete with oprah?

she'll get the terrorists' wives hooked on sappy romance novels and their husbands will be too busy Lawrance of Arabiaing to do any terror stuff.

I don't like the name Lawrence only (mod edit) and sailors have that name !

R. Lee Ermey: too intense for FFXIAH.

But in fairness, it is a pretty taboo term these days.
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 10:17:24
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Ramyrez said: »
fonewear said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
yeah but if we're look for someone both more famous and less qualified than trump to run.. who can really compete with oprah?

she'll get the terrorists' wives hooked on sappy romance novels and their husbands will be too busy Lawrance of Arabiaing to do any terror stuff.

I don't like the name Lawrence only (mod edit) and sailors have that name !

R. Lee Ermey: too intense for FFXIAH.

But in fairness, it is a pretty taboo term these days.

Sadly a kinder gentler FFXIAH is what exists...
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 10:17:51
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Also I assume most of you are Kubrick fans or should be hopefully.
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By Ramyrez 2017-03-03 10:18:30
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fonewear said: »
Sadly a kinder gentler FFXIAH is what exists...

I mean, it's probably for the best.

But knowing that won't stop me from complaining.

I'm an American, dammit. I can and will complain about what's good for me and resist it with great -- possible armed -- force!
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 10:20:04
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I tried resisting things but that just makes me want them more...maybe if I over indulge I'll get tired of said things !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-03 11:22:35
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fonewear said: »
maybe if I over indulge I'll get tired of said things !

you coud go back and edit all your posts (outside of P&R) put that word in it...that'll keep everyone busy!
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 11:24:31
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
fonewear said: »
maybe if I over indulge I'll get tired of said things !

you coud go back and edit all your posts (outside of P&R) put that word in it...that'll keep everyone busy!

If we keep talking about the mods that one that likes anime will appear !
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 11:25:23
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Actually speaking of people not making appearances is it some sort of holiday that Donny can't join in our shenanigans ?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-03 11:30:08
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fonewear said: »
Actually speaking of people not making appearances is it some sort of holiday that Donny can't join in our shenanigans ?

he's probably currently involved in a bus crash....

he'll be back as soon as the bus stops rolling over
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 11:32:16
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
fonewear said: »
Actually speaking of people not making appearances is it some sort of holiday that Donny can't join in our shenanigans ?

he's probably currently involved in a bus crash....

he'll be back as soon as the bus stops rolling over
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-03 11:34:23
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Awww damn... Gayle says the oprah for president thing was a joke.

Gayle King laughed off the possibility, saying it would “never” happen.

BOO!!!
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 11:36:49
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Awww damn... Gayle says the oprah for president thing was a joke.

Gayle King laughed off the possibility, saying it would “never” happen.

BOO!!!
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By fonewear 2017-03-03 11:39:06
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Tom Hanks is up for the task:

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-03-03 11:57:54
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Tom Hanks should run against Tim Allen in 2024.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-03 12:55:23
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Hillary would be jellyfish
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-03 13:01:24
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http://www.research.ufl.edu/publications/explore/v10n1/extract2.html

Now for something completely different. Something to make you wonder.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-03-03 13:31:15
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Now for something completely different.

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I could really use an auxillary brain...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-03-03 18:03:51
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Despite Trump promises, Keystone pipeline won't have to use American steel

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A White House spokeswoman said Friday that the "buy American" rules in Trump's order clearing way for pipelines won't apply to the high-profile Keystone project, which will carry crude oil from Canada to the U.S. Gulf Coast.

"The way that the Executive Order is written is actually ... specific to new pipelines or those that are being repaired," the spokeswoman said. "Since [Keystone] is already currently under construction ... it was hard to go back. Everything moving forward would be all under that executive order."

But Trump has vowed repeatedly that only steel from American steelmakers could be used on Keystone as well as other U.S. oil pipelines. He said so the day he signed the Executive Order, as well as in his address to Congress this week.

Trump also alluded to the requirement when he met with U.S. Steel (X) CEO Mario Longhi at the White House last week.

"You're going to be doing pipelines now, you know that?" he said to Longhi. "We put you heavy into the pipeline business."

And he has said the buy-American rules were something he insisted on at the last moment.

"This took place while I was getting ready to sign," he told the CPAC conference last week. "I said, 'Who makes the pipes for the pipeline?' Well, sir, it comes from all over the world, isn't that wonderful? I said, 'Nope, it comes from the United States or we're not building one.' American steel. If they want a pipeline in the United States, they're going to use pipe that's made in the United States, do we agree?"

But it's not clear that Trump's executive order could require the use of American-made steel on any pipeline.

The order calls for the Secretary of Commerce to draft "Buy American" rules for pipeline construction "to the maximum extent possible and to the extent permitted by law."

TransCanada said late Friday it has already has purchase agreements for the steel pipe it will use on Keystone. It said half of the pipe will come from the Arkansas plant of India-based steelmaker, Welspun. Another 10% will come from a Welspun plant in India, the rest will be imported from Canada and Italy. In addition, it has already purchased about $800 million worth of other goods from U.S. manufacturers.

"This project will support U.S. energy security, create thousands of well-paying U.S. jobs and provide substantial economic benefits," the company said in the statement.

But most of those jobs are short-term. Once the pipeline opens it would require only 35 full-time permanent jobs to run it, according to an government estimate that TransCanada does not dispute.
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By fonewear 2017-03-04 10:13:20
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Ramyrez said: »

Speaking of different:

A 23-year-old Dominican man has died of alcohol poisoning after reportedly downing a whole bottle of tequila in one go for a £520 bet.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-died-downing-whole-bottle-143619194.html
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By fonewear 2017-03-04 10:13:46
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Note to self don't drink an entire bottle of tequila at once...
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Despite Trump promises, Keystone pipeline won't have to use American steel

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A White House spokeswoman said Friday that the "buy American" rules in Trump's order clearing way for pipelines won't apply to the high-profile Keystone project, which will carry crude oil from Canada to the U.S. Gulf Coast.

"The way that the Executive Order is written is actually ... specific to new pipelines or those that are being repaired," the spokeswoman said. "Since [Keystone] is already currently under construction ... it was hard to go back. Everything moving forward would be all under that executive order."

But Trump has vowed repeatedly that only steel from American steelmakers could be used on Keystone as well as other U.S. oil pipelines. He said so the day he signed the Executive Order, as well as in his address to Congress this week.

Trump also alluded to the requirement when he met with U.S. Steel (X) CEO Mario Longhi at the White House last week.

"You're going to be doing pipelines now, you know that?" he said to Longhi. "We put you heavy into the pipeline business."

And he has said the buy-American rules were something he insisted on at the last moment.

"This took place while I was getting ready to sign," he told the CPAC conference last week. "I said, 'Who makes the pipes for the pipeline?' Well, sir, it comes from all over the world, isn't that wonderful? I said, 'Nope, it comes from the United States or we're not building one.' American steel. If they want a pipeline in the United States, they're going to use pipe that's made in the United States, do we agree?"

But it's not clear that Trump's executive order could require the use of American-made steel on any pipeline.

The order calls for the Secretary of Commerce to draft "Buy American" rules for pipeline construction "to the maximum extent possible and to the extent permitted by law."

TransCanada said late Friday it has already has purchase agreements for the steel pipe it will use on Keystone. It said half of the pipe will come from the Arkansas plant of India-based steelmaker, Welspun. Another 10% will come from a Welspun plant in India, the rest will be imported from Canada and Italy. In addition, it has already purchased about $800 million worth of other goods from U.S. manufacturers.

"This project will support U.S. energy security, create thousands of well-paying U.S. jobs and provide substantial economic benefits," the company said in the statement.

But most of those jobs are short-term. Once the pipeline opens it would require only 35 full-time permanent jobs to run it, according to an government estimate that TransCanada does not dispute.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-04 16:09:37
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Trump makes up claims of wiretapping

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Former President Obama on Saturday denied President Trump’s accusation that Obama had Trump Tower phones tapped in the weeks before the November 2016 election.

“Neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false," said Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for the former president.

Trump made the claim in a series of early Saturday morning tweets that included the suggestion that the alleged wiretapping was tantamount to “McCarthyism” and “Nixon/Watergate.”

“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism,” Trump tweeted.

“Is it legal for a sitting President to be ‘wire tapping’ a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!” he said in another tweet.

Trump also tweeted that a “good lawyer could make a great case of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!”

“How low has President Obama gone to tap (sic) my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergage. Bad (or sick) guy!” the president continued.

Trump does not specify how he uncovered the Obama administration's alleged wiretapping.

However, he could be referencing a Breitbart article posted Friday that claimed the administration made two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) requests in 2016 to monitor Trump communications and a computer server in Trump Tower, related to possible links with Russian banks.

No evidence was found.

Alright, who let Trump off his leash? Took him no time at all to go straight to the gutter. I blame fonewear.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-03-04 17:33:13
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That would require a Federal Judge to feel there was probable cause. So he's either paranoid like Nixon and is just running off at the mouth or he's guilty of something and is trying to rally his supporters in attempts to diminish any attempt at legal action.
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By Ruaumoko 2017-03-04 18:21:03
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Smacks of someone desperate to distract people from something bigger progressing.

Start a fire to try deprive a larger fire of oxygen.
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By Viciouss 2017-03-04 19:32:40
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Notice how there has been nothing from Trump since his manufactured scandal. No elaboration, no citation of sources, total silence. He is either lying again, or a warrant was indeed issued to tap his phones, which would be damning...for him. Not for Obama. Either way, this is a self-inflicted lose-lose for Trump. Whatever "bump" he had for his speech is gone.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-03-04 20:17:41
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FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump
McClatchyDC Which is rated least biased by Media bias/fact check
Neither of which I had ever heard of before.

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The FBI and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated for months in an investigation into Russian attempts to influence the November election, including whether money from the Kremlin covertly aided President-elect Donald Trump, two people familiar with the matter said.

The agencies involved in the inquiry are the FBI, the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network and representatives of the director of national intelligence, the sources said.

Investigators are examining how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win, the two sources said. One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers, the two sources said.

The informal, inter-agency working group began to explore possible Russian interference last spring, long before the FBI received information from a former British spy hired to develop politically damaging and unverified research about Trump, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the inquiry.

On Jan. 6, the director of national intelligence released a declassified report that concluded Russian President Vladimir Putin had ordered an influence campaign to “undermine faith in the U.S. democratic process,” damage Hillary Clinton’s election prospects and bolster Trump’s. The campaign included the hacking of top Democrats’ emails and facts I don't like distributed by Russian sources.

The president-elect, who will be inaugurated Friday, has said he believes Russia was involved with the hacking, and he has called allegations that he or his associates were involved a “political witch hunt” and a “complete and total fabrication.”

Trump has yet to say whether FBI Director James Comey will be retained. The rest of Trump’s newly appointed intelligence and law enforcement chiefs will inherit the investigation, whose outcome could create national and international fallout.

Trump's presidential transition team did not respond to a request for comment about the inquiry.

A key mission of the six-agency group has been to examine who financed the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta. The London-based transparency group WikiLeaks released the emails last summer and in October.

The working group is scrutinizing the activities of a few Americans who were affiliated with Trump’s campaign or his business empire and of multiple individuals from Russia and other former Soviet nations who had similar connections, the sources said.

U.S. intelligence agencies not only have been unanimous in blaming Russia for the hacking of Democrats’ computers but also have concluded that the leaking and dissemination of thousands of emails of top Democrats, some of which caused headaches for the Clinton campaign, were done to help Trump win.

Trump and Republican members of Congress have said they believe Russia meddled in the U.S. election but that those actions didn’t change the outcome. However, Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, a former chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that she believes that Russia’s tactics did alter the election result.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has opened its own investigation into Russia’s involvement in the campaign. That panel will have subpoena power.

FBI Director Comey refused at a recent Senate hearing to comment on whether the bureau was investigating Russia’s hacking campaign for possible criminal prosecutions. Spokespeople for the FBI, the Justice Department and the national intelligence director declined to comment.

The BBC reported last week that the joint inquiry was launched when the CIA learned last spring, through a Baltic ally, of a recording indicating the Russian government was planning to funnel funds aimed at influencing the U.S. election.

Another source of information was the former longtime British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, who was hired to gather opposition research about Trump for a Republican client and later a Democrat. Early last summer, Steele became alarmed about information he was receiving from a network of Russian sources describing a web of Trump’s business relationships with wealthy Russians and alleged political ties to the Kremlin, according to two people who know him. These sources also declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Steele’s reports also alleged that Russian consulates in New York, Washington and Miami were used to deliver “tens of thousands of dollars” to Kremlin-hired operatives using fictitious names as if they were legitimate Russian-American pensioners. That “ruse” was designed to give Russia “plausible deniability,” Steele’s reports suggested. However, Russia does not operate a consulate in Miami.

Steele, who had worked previously with the FBI and was well regarded, fed the bureau information in July and September suggesting collusion between Trump associates and Moscow in the hacking of Democratic computers, they said. Eventually, he met in Italy with an FBI official to share more information alleging that a top Trump campaign official had known about the hacking as early as last June, the sources said. About a month after the election, Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona gave FBI Director Comey a copy of a 35-page compilation of Steele’s reports.

BuzzFeed posted the 35 pages of allegations online, acknowledging the report had obvious errors and had not been corroborated. Several news organizations, including McClatchy, had the document earlier but had resisted publishing any of the allegations because of the lack of verification.

Trump and Putin have branded Steele’s dossier as “facts I don't like.” On Jan. 11, at his only news conference as president-elect, Trump dismissed it as “nonsense” and “crap.” On Tuesday, Putin accused soon-to-depart Obama administration officials of trying to undermine Trump’s “legitimacy,” suggesting that the White House had released Steele’s dossier. The Russian leader said those who had prepared the dossier were “worse than prostitutes.”

Steele’s information has been treated as unverified intelligence by the working group because most of it came from purported Kremlin leaks and virtually all of it is extremely difficult to corroborate, the people familiar with the investigation said.

The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing investigators access to bank records and other documents about potential payments and money transfers related to Russia. One of McClatchy’s sources confirmed the report.

Susan Hennessey, a former attorney for the National Security Agency who is now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, said she had no knowledge as to whether a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant had been issued in the investigation of Russian influence. However, she said such warrants were issued only if investigators could establish “probable cause” that the target was a foreign power or its agent and that the surveillance was likely to produce foreign intelligence. She said the information in Steele’s dossier couldn’t have met that test.

“If, in fact, law enforcement has obtained a FISA warrant, that is an indication that additional evidence exists outside of the dossier,” she said.

One episode that Steele’s reports described from multiple sources referred to a late-summer meeting in Prague between Russian government representatives and Michael Cohen, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, the president-elect’s vast business operation. But the FBI has been unable to establish that Cohen was in Prague during that period, the two sources familiar with the working group said.

Cohen has denied ever traveling to the Czech Republic, although he told The Wall Street Journal that he did so in 2001.

For months, Trump has voiced positive sentiments toward Putin. In early January, he tweeted that “only ‘stupid’ people, or fools” would think it’s bad to have good relations with Russia.

“When I am President, Russia will respect us far more than they do now and both countries will, perhaps, work together to solve some of the many great and pressing problems and issues of the WORLD!” he tweeted last week.

During the campaign in July, he displayed ignorance that Russian-backed separatists had invaded Crimea in eastern Ukraine in 2014 and he called on Russia to hack away to uncover thousands of emails that Clinton had never made public after using a private server while secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

At the Republican National Convention in Cleveland last July, Trump’s campaign associates successfully changed the Republican Party’s platform to weaken a provision advocating more military support for the Ukrainian government in its fight to defend itself against the Russian-backed incursion in Crimea.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-03-04 21:02:26
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Viciouss said: »
Notice how there has been nothing from Trump since his manufactured scandal. No elaboration, no citation of sources, total silence. He is either lying again, or a warrant was indeed issued to tap his phones, which would be damning...for him. Not for Obama. Either way, this is a self-inflicted lose-lose for Trump. Whatever "bump" he had for his speech is gone.
I think he's still waiting on the next Breitbart headline.
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