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By Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:48:09
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Saturday, Donny, is Shabbos, the Jewish day of rest. That means that I don't work, I don't drive a car, I don't *** ride in a car, I don't handle money, I don't turn on the oven, and I sure as *** *don't *** roll*!

WHAT IS THIS DAY OF REST BULLSHI...IT DONT MATTER TO THE JESUS!
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:49:04
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You are entering a world of pain, Zero !
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-21 22:53:10
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Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a ***about the rules? Mark it Zero!
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By fonewear 2017-02-21 22:54:00
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Donny who liked bowling and FFXIAH.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-02-22 00:26:29
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What was all that ***about vietnam phonewear?
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By fonewear 2017-02-22 07:04:27
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What was all that ***about vietnam phonewear?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-22 09:06:22
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Siren.Mosin said: »
What was all that ***about vietnam phonewear?
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By fonewear 2017-02-22 10:18:19
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Josiahkf said: »
Nationalism vs. globalism: the new political divide | Yuval Noah Harari

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In a wide-ranging conversation full of insight, historian Yuval Harari places our current turmoil in a broader context, against the ongoing disruption of our technology, climate, media -- even our notion of what humanity is for.

Donny none of us have an hour to watch a video !
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By fonewear 2017-02-22 10:19:17
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I can't even get Chanti to watch a 10 second Simpsons clip...
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By fonewear 2017-02-22 10:25:10
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What was all that ***about vietnam phonewear?

Lady, I got buddies who died face down in the muck so that you and I could enjoy this family restaurant !
 
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I would be willing to watch it if was a 10 minute video actually.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2017-02-22 12:36:19
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Rinkeby in Stockholm made global headlines this week after riots broke out involving car fires just days after Donald Trump thrust the spotlight on Sweden. But what do the people who actually live and work in the suburb think about it? The Local spoke to them to find out.

Rinkeby's issues will not be news to anyone living in Sweden. In 2015 police included it in a list of 15 areas judged to be “particularly vulnerable”, while two years prior it was one of several areas in Stockholm which saw violent unrest.

The area's challenges have been given renewed, global attention this week however, as Monday's riot coincided with US president Trump's factually inaccurate comments about crime and immigration in Sweden.

When The Local arrived in Rinkeby on Wednesday the atmosphere was calm, and there were few signs of the trouble from two nights before, with the exception of the occasional patched up window on shop fronts. But residents there still have plenty to say about the problems in the area.

"There were a few cars burning in the car park behind here – five or six of them. Then some kids broke the glass in the subway followed by shops and a restaurant," Haider, who works in the Rinkeby Livs store and saw the riot taking place, told The Local.

"The problem, you know, is that the police did nothing. And not for the first time. If they arrest someone who does something wrong, within a few days they're free. It doesn’t make a difference – there’s no punishment," he claimed.

Haider's complaint is in line with those made by other residents who have spoken to Swedish media outlets in the last few days, criticizing police for waiting too long before clamping down on the rioters. No arrests were made following Monday's riot, and the shop worker thinks that shows more needs to be done to prevent repeat incidents.

"It's not so many people causing trouble. Maybe 30, 40. Arrest the whole bunch. There are other solutions too. Split them up, move them all to different cities, for example, and leave the normal people in peace," he suggested.

"The people doing this stuff are known. It’s not the first time," his friend added. "If someone has an argument with their partner and the police are called, they're here straight away. But when this happens, they aren't."



The occasional repaired storefront was one of the few signs that a riot had taken place in Rinkeby 48 hours prior. Photo: Lee Roden/The Local

Preliminary figures from Sweden's National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) show that the Rinkeby-Kista municipality which Rinkeby is a part of was the municipality in Stockholm with the second highest rate of violent crimes reported in the city in 2016.

Its 2,405 reported violent crimes per 100,000 residents was lower than only Norrmalm in the city centre (3,679 per 100,000 residents). The lowest rate, by comparison, was found in Bromma (709 violent crimes per 100,000).

For global context on crime in Sweden, the overall rate of deadly violence in Sweden is about 1 per 100,000 inhabitants, compared to 5 per 100,000 in the US, according to the FBI.


Last year there were app 50% more murders only in Orlando/Port Orange in Florida, where Trump spoke the other day, than in all of Sweden. Bad.
— Carl Bildt (@carlbildt) February 20, 2017


Speaking to Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter on Tuesday about the riot the night before, police commissioner Jan Evensson conceded that "zero arrests in a situation like this is not a pass", and promised that improvements will be made if it emerges that officers did take too long to intervene.

Not everyone The Local spoke to was as critical of the police however. A shop owner in the area who wished to remain anonymous, said the officers "do exactly what is required of them by the law, nothing more, nothing less".

"Everyday normal people here have a good relationship with the police and like having them around. You can speak with the police, have a laugh with them. The problem is between the criminals and the police," he explained.

"Part of the problem is that some people move here from countries with serious problems and it’s difficult for them to enter Swedish society. They look for the shortest route as a result, and that's crime," the man, who moved to Sweden 35 years ago, insisted.

"Sweden is one of the best countries in the world and has done its best, but some decisions it has taken have been weak. We have been hit by some bad decisions on immigration, so Trump is right in that regard. That's why I think the Sweden Democrats will win the next election here," he predicted.

Henrik Selin, a political scientist and the Swedish Institute's director of intercultural dialogue, believes that blaming immigration does not get to the root of the problems faced by areas like Rinkeby, where social issues and unemployment can also be found.

"The narrative in some media outlets – certainly not all, but some places like Fox News, Breitbart – is both extremely exaggerated, and also places an excessive focus on all of the problems being linked to immigration, which isn't true," he told The Local.

"People with a foreign background are to some extent overrepresented in crime statistics, but if you go deeper you'll notice there there is also usually a higher rate of unemployment, poverty and exclusion there."

That point was echoed by two women working in the Supershop store on Rinkeby's main square.

"Part of the problem is there isn’t much to do with your time for a lot of people here. There are many people from all kinds of different backgrounds, but some aren't well educated, don't have a job, and there's nothing for them to do. There isn't even something simple like bingo or the like," she said.

"It's a question of education," her colleague emphasized. "There isn't constant trouble, every few months or so something happens, but not that often. Most of the people here think things like what happened on Monday are absolutely terrible," she concluded.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-22 13:15:25
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And what do we learn today, boys and girls?

Don't direct the attention of the Don, otherwise your city will burn.
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By Zerowone 2017-02-22 13:21:21
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I heard Trump was going to make an announcement to address the illegal immigration from the TRAPPIST-1 system.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-22 13:25:54
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fonewear said: »
Josiahkf said: »
Nationalism vs. globalism: the new political divide | Yuval Noah Harari

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In a wide-ranging conversation full of insight, historian Yuval Harari places our current turmoil in a broader context, against the ongoing disruption of our technology, climate, media -- even our notion of what humanity is for.

Donny none of us have an hour to watch a video !

I'ts not new, it's been around since before WWII. It's the old Communism vs Democracy debate but with the words swaped out. Instead of arguing for all the worlds worker class to throw off their capitalist shackles and join together in a singular worldwide revolution, they argue for the worker class to throw off their national identity and join together in a singular worldwide government / citizenship.

Basically how can wealthy aristocrats in Europe control the world political system for their own benefit. Some ***never changes no matter how many centuries you cross.
 
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-02-22 15:09:54
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Milo ain't gone, just a setback. The media didn't make him and they can't break him.

Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.

Oh? What did Takei say that offended you?
I think it was something about when Takei was a young man, he was attracted to older men. You know, what people think of an infatuation. As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-22 15:18:22
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
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Milo ain't gone, just a setback. The media didn't make him and they can't break him.

Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.

Oh? What did Takei say that offended you?
I think it was something about when Takei was a young man, he was attracted to older men. You know, what people think of an infatuation. As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.
Takei was molested by a 19 year old man when he was 14, except he told Howard Sterns audience he didn't consider it rape/molestation because he thought the guy was hot.

Let alone the "nothing to see here" approach to Lena Dunham's molestation of her own sister.

The hypocrisy of those on the left is just jaw dropping.
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By Viciouss 2017-02-22 15:31:29
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Nausi has always sucked at identifying hypocrisy, this case is no different.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-22 15:36:33
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As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.

Except Milo was always the younger person in the relationship. So I guess he's a "pedo" who is attracted to older men....

Yeah Liberal Logic for you...
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-22 15:38:36
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Can't wait to hear Trumps response to the 4th circuit ruling on Assault Rifles.
 
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By Viciouss 2017-02-22 15:46:01
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Honestly I don't think Trump knows a single thing about guns or the laws related to them. If he says anything it will just be whatever the GOP tells him to say.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-02-22 15:49:11
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
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Milo ain't gone, just a setback. The media didn't make him and they can't break him.

Too bad the libs won't persecute George Takei with the same ferocity for saying worse.

Oh? What did Takei say that offended you?
I think it was something about when Takei was a young man, he was attracted to older men. You know, what people think of an infatuation. As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.
Takei was molested by a 19 year old man when he was 14, except he told Howard Sterns audience he didn't consider it rape/molestation because he thought the guy was hot.

Let alone the "nothing to see here" approach to Lena Dunham's molestation of her own sister.

The hypocrisy of those on the left is just jaw dropping.

Yet it's the establishment of "right" who has turned their backs on him. The denial and projection would be jaw dropping if wasn't so passé at this point.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2017-02-22 15:51:34
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As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.

Except Milo was always the younger person in the relationship. So I guess he's a "pedo" who is attracted to older men....

Yeah Liberal Logic for you...
Oh, the logic that he is now advocating that older men should seek out younger partners so they can be trained in relationships is wrong?
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By Zerowone 2017-02-22 16:00:52
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Not just young impressionable boys but the girls too obviously.

Apparently the Reagan Battalion, the American Conservative Union and Conservative Political Action Confrence are leftists for finding Milos commentary running counter to their conservative ideals.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-22 16:05:46
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
As opposed to those who are adults and lust after young kids. But other than that, they were totally the same.

Except Milo was always the younger person in the relationship. So I guess he's a "pedo" who is attracted to older men....

Yeah Liberal Logic for you...
Oh, the logic that he is now advocating that older men should seek out younger partners so they can be trained in relationships is wrong?

WTF .... like your taking words and twisting them so far outside of context that it no longer remotely resembles reality. The comparison to Takei is pretty spot on, only in Takei's case everyone laughs while Milo is vilified.

Again Liberal Logic at work.
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