normal gear and stones almost certainly aren't effected by evals
gotten sanctity necklace on all of my characters and solemnity cape on most just showing up and standing there while people kill it
Domain Invasion Treasure Coffer Campaign
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Domain Invasion Treasure Coffer Campaign
Affected doesn't mean necessary <.<. rng is random yo
then i'm sure you have a better sample size properly logged to refute it
let's see it (for reference, 12/12 chars have sanctity necklace and 8/12 have solemnity cape after a total of 23 runs, all have 11/11 spoils, 946 total stones = ~3.4/kill, overall gear droprate of 31/276 = 11.2%, stones possibly weighed down a bit by full inventory) Sure I can start logging it though seems odd to demand that given it's refutation of something that really hasn't been established via any real sample of comparisons other than people saying yeah I get some stuff with/without doing anything. Though I don't have full spoils so that might affect things as will how fast they are dying and my ability to get evaluations and know I got them since they often don't show up in log with all those people
That said the difference is fairly noticeable when you compare to fighting decent length fights outside of campaigns. At least with the quantity/quality of stones/lixers. I've had most the accessories for awhile now so hard to say I just thru that in there along with normal drops I've done 11 naga raja fights without campaign, and of my 12 chars only 2 of them have both belt and mantle. One of those 2 is a THF that either does nothing or casts a single dia(just in case TH effects it in some hidden way).. has never had a full evaluation. One of the characters who always caps evaluation on BLM has neither.
Given that you're only using anecdotes observed from 1(?) character, I'd say my observations hold at least equal weight. I don't notice any difference in quantity or quality of drops when doing normal runs where certain characters do extremely little. i've gotten 4 to 5 stones and no gear in a 0 evaluation. i've gotten no pouches in this campaign period. i've done over a 100 fights between both characters for reisen and a little less for ru'aun as i don't really need gear as much or can get easily.
For Reisen: Main: 13/100 roughly on gear with most getting gear having at least some points. heads - ody, chiro body - herc(was 100% afk 0 eval, only piece i'm positive for this on) hands - herc X2, ody X 2, val legs - ody, val, merl feet - herc, merl Alt: 8/100 More often than not she had between a 0 to 100 eval so maybe it has an effect? heads - Chiro, Herc body - X Hands - herc, merl, chiro x 2, Legs - Ody Feet - herc Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » Given that you're only using anecdotes observed from 1(?) character, I'd say my observations hold at least equal weight. I don't notice any difference in quantity or quality of drops when doing normal runs where certain characters do extremely little. That said though like Evildemon I definitely haven't seen a single pouch yet this campaign or a lixer+2. I'll try boosting the evals on my main see if I can see a difference I got a lixer+2 early on when I was actually trying, so my evaluation would have been like~50k or something?
The alt account I usually have idling around in DM or engaging before I tab away has received far more than my main, which I'm usually playing with the aim of highest possible eval. Alt's received all three Reisenjima bodies and I think is 4/5 on the full sets with some multiples. My main has seen maybe a third of those drops, if that.
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This campaign reminds me a bit old delve 1.0. It was a long time since i was buffed with 9 songs and 4 rolls, aside other buffs.
Also, the songs with 2 mins duration reminds me of my bad moments in original delve.
Heya folks!
I've done about 24 fights since this started, and here is what i've got so far... - lots of magic rocks from resenjima - Taupe Stones, things like that. - 1x Eschalixir +2, 6x Eschalixir +1, 20x Eschalixir - Chironic Slippers, Chironic Hose - Herculean trousers - Merlinic Hood, Merlinic Crackows I have yet to get any gear from zi' tah or Ru' aun. I'm sure this has already been posted by somebody and I missed it, but something is seriously *** with Zitah.
I've done about 80 of each dragon for drops I needed off of them anyways. Resinjima/Sky I've received random gear and weapons off and on. Participation didn't matter and the loot size never changed. Zitah I never saw a single other item drop other than 2 rings and 1 earring that it usually drops. What's strange is it DID seem to base off of participation. If i stood there I would mostly get 2 nq lixer. If i participated with trusts full on I would get 4-5 drops with more often +1/+2 and ore. No nibiru or rawhide ect. I don't have any crazy sample size and rng is rng, but something is probably wrong. Asura.Clinpachi said: » I'm sure this has already been posted by somebody and I missed it, but something is seriously *** with Zitah. I've done about 80 of each dragon for drops I needed off of them anyways. Resinjima/Sky I've received random gear and weapons off and on. Participation didn't matter and the loot size never changed. Zitah I never saw a single other item drop other than 2 rings and 1 earring that it usually drops. What's strange is it DID seem to base off of participation. If i stood there I would mostly get 2 nq lixer. If i participated with trusts full on I would get 4-5 drops with more often +1/+2 and ore. No nibiru or rawhide ect. I don't have any crazy sample size and rng is rng, but something is wrong. SE said they will get on it starting the first of the month.
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I guess everyone is crazy for reisenjima gear/ruaun weapon that didnt bother to report.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » SE said they will get on it starting the first of the month. So they are just going to repeat the entire event next month with it fixed lol? Them mercs gon be maaaaad :o
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » SE said they will get on it starting the first of the month. I don't understand the issue.
Why would one want gear or weapons from Zi'tah when better pieces are available in Ru'aun and Reisenjima? Quetzalcoatl.Commencal said: » I don't understand the issue. Why would one want gear or weapons from Zi'tah when better pieces are available in Ru'aun and Reisenjima? /shrug, maybe the glowy weapons from T3s if those dropped. They look cool for lockstyle, and the H2H is actually still very good for non-RMEA. Or HELM bodies for similar fashion purposes if for some reason those showed up in Zi'tah, though that seems unlikely. Still, I guess it's more the whole principle of the thing, one zone isn't getting drops and the other two are. Also, I have a feeling some people might complain that Zi'tah wasn't working in hopes of S-E extending the campaign in all zones. Resulting in more chances at Reisenjima gear, and all zone vorseals ;) Zi'Tah is giving out Eschite Ore in the same slot that Ru'Aun and Reisenjima are currently giving gear.
It's satire. I'm saying that SE is going to "fix" this issue after the event is over. Their "fix" is that the event is over.
So far these are my results. The vast majority of my kills were done with at least some eval. Oddly enough the only drop I got with 0 eval was the only body.
- 118 Quetz Kills 2x Valor Mask 2x Merlinic Hood 1x Herc Helm 1x Merlinic Jubah 1x Valor Mitts 1x Merlinic Shalwar 1x Odyssean Greaves 3x Chironic Slippers - 69 Naga Raja Kills 1x Sch 2x Whm 1x Thf 1x Rng 1x Blm A lot of people are stating that they are getting bodies with 0 evaluation.
Maybe I should try that........ My mule has gotten nearly double my main as far as drops are concerned. Like 5 bodies now to my 0 and she just stands there most of the time or does hardly anything.
If there was another worse word for random, SE has successfully invented it.
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Only have gotten t1 hands and rest of othing showing up cause of the lag and 100+ at the domains boss's and not even a evolutionary result after fight.
Quote: nly have gotten t1 hands and rest of othing showing up cause of the lag and 100+ at the domains boss's and not even a evolutionary result after fight i figured if you dont do any actions for the last 20 % the no drop/eval thing doesnt happen Lately I've found actually doing stuff makes it even more likely that eval doesn't show up. Though I clearly still am getting stuff. Like the characters that sit there and maybe at most just buff at the beginning get their finished crappy eval while the main actually doing work only has maybe 1/4 actually show up and most of those were ones I couldn't do jack for the last half of the fight because I was terrored. Also sadly my bead gain seems to be the same with 0 eval and a pretty good for <1 minute kill eval
Both of my Herculean Vests came from running in last minute and getting a 0 evaluation...
Mostly I end up with between 20-25k evaluations, and it's just stones.
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Ragnarok.Fabiano said: » Quote: nly have gotten t1 hands and rest of othing showing up cause of the lag and 100+ at the domains boss's and not even a evolutionary result after fight i figured if you dont do any actions for the last 20 % the no drop/eval thing doesnt happen clearlyamule said: » Lately I've found actually doing stuff makes it even more likely that eval doesn't show up. Though I clearly still am getting stuff. Like the characters that sit there and maybe at most just buff at the beginning get their finished crappy eval while the main actually doing work only has maybe 1/4 actually show up and most of those were ones I couldn't do jack for the last half of the fight because I was terrored. Also sadly my bead gain seems to be the same with 0 eval and a pretty good for <1 minute kill eval This hasn't held firm in my case. I have a character that never does anything and see their evaluation as much as my main's who is contributing. So, I'm not sure what causes it if not just a specific amount of lag to that instance. Also, yes. Beads have become equivalent for 25k evaluation and a 0 evaluation in my case, as well. |
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