Random Politics & Religion #18

Eorzea Time
 
 
 
Langues: JP EN FR DE
users online
Forum » Everything Else » Politics and Religion » Random Politics & Religion #18
Random Politics & Religion #18
First Page 2 3 ... 57 58 59 ... 65 66 67
 Ragnarok.Nausi
Offline
Serveur: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Nausi
Posts: 6709
By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-02-02 14:54:04
Link | Citer | R
 
Arnold Schwarzecucker
 Asura.Saevel
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9910
By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-02 14:54:24
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Have you ever been told you're privileged? That's someone telling you you're opinion doesn't count (probably because you're either white, male, or hetero.

No. That's not what it means at all.

That's you playing a victim.

That's exactly how it's used, it's also the biggest reason Hillary lost. She never bothered with the "white male" identity group because they simply don't matter in the cool, hip, progressive world. Need to get the "black vote", the "latino vote", the "women's vote", the "muslim vote" and so forth. Every voter was divided into nice little groups that were then weighted and it was determined what was needed to say to get each one to vote for her. We'll pay for all your birth control and force employers to pay you more then your male counterparts, women vote checked. We'll make all your family and friends american citizens, and if your not then we'll make you one too, latino vote check. We'll increase welfare payments and tax the rich white folk for it, black vote check. So on and so forth for each group, with "white males" playing the part of the evil oppressors that need to receive social justice.

Then the election happened and people were shocked by the sheer volume of red counties / states. But but but we're the progressive party of equality, we strive to make everyone more equal then those evil white men. How could we lose, don't all these people see how great we are at taking wealth from evil white men and redistributing it to everyone else. What those evil white men had opinions and didn't want to have their wealth redistributed, they aren't allowed to have opinions those racist sexist homophobe ***. Why don't they lay down and take the theft properly like Politically Correct mules are supposed to.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-02-02 14:55:12
Link | Citer | R
 
I watched the new Celebrity Apprentice with Arnold and it is terrible.

He doesn't have the charisma of Trump.
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-02-02 14:55:30
Link | Citer | R
 
Plus when Arnold Talks I need to have closed captions on to understand what the hell he is saying.
[+]
 Bahamut.Ravael
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Ravael
Posts: 13640
By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-02-02 14:58:31
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Calling someone a nazi, is really only meant to dehumanized them and legitimize violence against them.

Wow. You drank a lot of the Koolaid, didn't you?

Ramy really, really wants to be able to call people Nazis.
[+]
 Shiva.Shruiken
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-02 14:58:57
Link | Citer | R
 
so many white tears

 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:04:03
Link | Citer | R
 
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Calling someone a nazi, is really only meant to dehumanized them and legitimize violence against them.

Wow. You drank a lot of the Koolaid, didn't you?

Ramy really, really wants to be able to call people Nazis.
Or racists.
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:08:41
Link | Citer | R
 
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
so many white tears

Ok, for no other purpose other than to repeat myself:

WHO THE *** CARES WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS?

All that matters in this world is who you are as a person. Just like their are *** out there who are white (*shock*), there are *** out there who are black (*shock*), Asian (*shock*), Oompaloompa (well, there's only one orange person in the world, and he's PotUS, so *shock*), Green (damn lizard people), or Russian (*in Soviet Russia, racists shock you*).

But seriously. People who care about racism are the ones who are most likely to spread it. Not saying it doesn't exist, but to glorify it is doing just as much damage as doing it.
[+]
 Shiva.Shruiken
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-02 15:10:44
Link | Citer | R
 
straight white males that feel underrepresented unite
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:12:01
Link | Citer | R
 
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
straight white males that feel underrepresented unite
Ha!

Little do you know, I'm not straight!

I'm also not gay, so sorry Pleebs, I still won't go out with you.
[+]
 Valefor.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
Serveur: Valefor
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 24219
By Valefor.Sehachan 2017-02-02 15:12:28
Link | Citer | R
 
This narrative that every white person gets called a nazi, a racist, etc is just ridiculous. People who act like such are the ones called by their name; maybe some just don't wanna admit who they are.
If you're not one of them then stop being apologetic. Milo whateveropulos, Bannon, Spencer, those are all of the above. I'm tired of seeing someone going "boo everyone is a nazi to progressives" when these people and the ones like them get the flack they deserve.
[+]
 Bahamut.Kara
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Kara
Posts: 3544
By Bahamut.Kara 2017-02-02 15:13:21
Link | Citer | R
 
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Calling someone a nazi, is really only meant to dehumanized them and legitimize violence against them.

Cause I mean who would blame you if you killed Hitler?

Has that thought ever crossed your mind?

Really.....

 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:18:21
Link | Citer | R
 
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Calling someone a nazi, is really only meant to dehumanized them and legitimize violence against them.

Cause I mean who would blame you if you killed Hitler?

Has that thought ever crossed your mind?

Really.....

Wait, you are surprised that Trump went Godwin?
 Bahamut.Kara
Offline
Serveur: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Kara
Posts: 3544
By Bahamut.Kara 2017-02-02 15:22:37
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Wait, you are surprised that Trump went Godwin?
No.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-02-02 15:23:13
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Wait, you are surprised that Trump went Godwin?

Not surprised at all.

But I'm not sure you're quite getting at the point.
[+]
 Cerberus.Pleebo
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Pleebo
Posts: 9720
By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-02-02 15:24:06
Link | Citer | R
 
That Trump did? No.
That a president (elect at the time) did? Sure.
[+]
 Shiva.Shruiken
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-02 15:24:23
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I'm not straight!

I'm also not gay

well richard spencer and steve bannon may not support u but i do <3
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-02-02 15:25:18
Link | Citer | R
 
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I'm not straight!

I'm also not gay

well richard spencer and steve bannon may not support u but i do <3

Pull the reins back on that support.

He's just being a disenfranchised hetero white guy in his own unique way.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 24505
By Ramyrez 2017-02-02 15:25:41
Link | Citer | R
 
I mean, you can still support him.

But pretty sure this isn't some magical coming out ceremony for KN.
[+]
 Shiva.Shruiken
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-02 15:27:38
Link | Citer | R
 
i've been had!
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:29:46
Link | Citer | R
 
Ramyrez said: »
He's just being a disenfranchised hetero white guy in his own unique way.
No, I'm just not interested in relationships anymore....or ever.

Personally, I would be as likely to set you on fire as to give you respect if we met the first time. After the years, though, for you Ramy...I would do both.
 Asura.Saevel
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9910
By Asura.Saevel 2017-02-02 15:30:20
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Shruiken said: »
so many white tears

Ok, for no other purpose other than to repeat myself:

WHO THE *** CARES WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS?

All that matters in this world is who you are as a person. Just like their are *** out there who are white (*shock*), there are *** out there who are black (*shock*), Asian (*shock*), Oompaloompa (well, there's only one orange person in the world, and he's PotUS, so *shock*), Green (damn lizard people), or Russian (*in Soviet Russia, racists shock you*).

But seriously. People who care about racism are the ones who are most likely to spread it. Not saying it doesn't exist, but to glorify it is doing just as much damage as doing it.

That's been my point. *** race ***, we're all Americans and should just accept that. No more identity politics, no more compartmentalizing everyone into "acceptable victim class's" and then creating different social rules for each. "Your black so you can say X / Y / Z and we all must be sensitive to it". "Your a women so your allowed to say / do A / B / C". "Oh your a white male, well you can do F and don't let us catch you doing anything else".
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:34:01
Link | Citer | R
 
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
That Trump did? No.
That a president (elect at the time) did? Sure.
You honestly think that Trump is going to change now that he's president?

How adorable.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-02-02 15:34:16
Link | Citer | R
 
[+]
 Asura.Kingnobody
Bug Hunter
Offline
Serveur: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 34187
By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-02-02 15:35:23
Link | Citer | R
 
fonewear said: »
Wait, we all know that white people can't jump dance!
[+]
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2017-02-02 15:35:51
 Undelete | Link | Citer | R
 
Post deleted by User.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-02-02 15:36:11
Link | Citer | R
 
The obsession with race seems odd. I never once woke up thinking. Hey I'm white ! Mostly it's damn I'm still tired ?
[+]
 Cerberus.Pleebo
Offline
Serveur: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Pleebo
Posts: 9720
By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-02-02 15:37:02
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
WHO THE *** CARES WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS?
This is why privilege needs to be considered. Yes, ideally individual differences shouldn't matter, but we are still far from existing in this ideal. There are many avenues to upward mobility that are more difficult because some of those differences become obstacles due to bigoted people in power or systematic practices that discriminate, explicitly or otherwise.

It matters. If it's never been something you've had to deal with then congratulations because it's not exactly the most lifting experience. Diminishing other people's experiences with 'who the *** cares' when it so obviously still does emphasizes the lack of perspective and an unwillingness to understand.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 35422
By fonewear 2017-02-02 15:38:13
Link | Citer | R
 
I don't care what I do so why should I care about you ?
 Shiva.Shruiken
Offline
Serveur: Shiva
Game: FFXI
By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-02-02 15:38:44
Link | Citer | R
 
Asura.Saevel said: »
"Your black so you can say X / Y / Z and we all must be sensitive to it".

Are you just mad you can't say the N word? Is that the problem here?
[+]
First Page 2 3 ... 57 58 59 ... 65 66 67