Random Politics & Religion #18
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Random Politics & Religion #18
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fonewear said: » The crazy thing is who does Hitler compare himself to ? His dad ? Van Gogh, obviously, which is problematic as everyone else compared him to a child smearing ***on a wall, so he projected it and bad things happened.
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I would drop off the chair I'm sitting on if CNN or ABC or whoever did a positive Trump news story.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » You can literally say that about any national leader and find a way to compare them. I'm not sure if you're deliberately ignoring the similarities because it benefits you or if you're really so blinded by your disdain for your ideological opponents that you don't see it. This isn't a "casual similarity that can be made with any leader." This is a man who is whipping up furor against specific people based on religious belief and using them as a scapegoat/excuse to deny basic Constitutional rights. fonewear said: » I would drop off the chair I'm sitting on if CNN or ABC or whoever did a positive Trump news story. I'd drop off my chair if Trump did something positive. Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ?
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Also Canada already solved this probably they want as many refugees as they can handle.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success? Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing. We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups.
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fonewear said: » Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ? I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word. Bahamut.Ravael said: » You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong? You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves? Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success? Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing. We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups. Hear hear! Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ? I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word. I don't need some random guy to explain things to me but thanks for the offer. Bahamut.Ravael said: » You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong? But, to be fair, I see your point. Hitler did, after all, make the *** trains run on time. How bout these we send you the refugees Ram if you care about them so much !
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » I'm trying to figure out what people honestly expected to happen with the political cycle. Were they actually expecting that the pendulum would stay on their side forever? Did they actually think that their side has been doing so well that they would never lose power? Did they actually think that ignoring huge demographics was a long-term solution that would guarantee success? Prior to the election, people were saying (especially Vic and CJ) that the democrat/liberals will be in power for the next 50 years. Now, we have Republicans stating (Nausi and Altima's most recent sock) that the same thing. We have to understand that no one ideology is going to stay in power for long, because, like it or not, they are all *** ups. Yeah I never said that. Didn't even imply it. Don't know where you get these fantasies from. Ramyrez said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong? You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves? Occam's Razor would suggest that it's more likely for people to not be able to see any good in someone than it is for a person to actually have no good in them.
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What is really funny is that if Hitler were alive today he would probably be more popular than Trump. That is a low that I can't understand.
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Ramyrez said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong? You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves? One has inherent conflict-of-interest issues due to his investments, the other one actually has solid evidence of conflicts-of-interest during her tenure as Secretary of State and her husband's use of the family's charitable foundation. No matter who won, there would have been conflicts-of-interest by being President. Luckily, we have a person who (mostly) set aside his investments and given up all power over them to his family members.
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fonewear said: » Ramyrez said: » fonewear said: » Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ? I literally don't have the time to explain to you the things going on here that you're either ignoring or not grasping. If you actually care there's about 8,000 (low estimate) articles out there right now spelling this all out word for word. I don't need some random guy to explain things to me but thanks for the offer. Then don't ask! :p
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Remember when we gave a President 100 days ? I don't remember either !
I remember when Obama got elected I don't recall myself or my friends marching and protesting that. Maybe I live in a non protesting area though...
Bahamut.Ravael said: » Ramyrez said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » You do know that it's possible to hate someone so much that everything they do is wrong? You do know that it's possible for someone to be such a piece of ***that they literally can't do anything to benefit anyone but themselves? Occam's Razor would suggest that it's more likely for people to not be able to see any good in someone than it is for a person to actually have no good in them. Deep down they don't want to believe Trump is good. And he isn't Hitler. But to fit their narrative they have to be anti Trump on everything !
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fonewear said: » Remember when we gave a President 100 days ? I don't remember either ! Nowadays people can't wait 100 seconds.
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fonewear said: » Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ? 2. Because everyone in the USA (on US territory) has certain constitutional rights unless the constitution explicitly states citizens (i.e. voting) or mitigated by congress (Immigration laws different levels of due process).
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Bahamut.Kara said: » fonewear said: » Wait a minute these refugees aren't citizens of the US how the hell do they have Constitutional rights ? 2. Because everyone in the USA (on US territory) has certain constitutional rights unless the constitution explicitly states citizens (i.e. voting) or mitigated by congress (Immigration laws different levels of due process). First time in history someone answered a question. I didn't think it was possible !
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fonewear said: » I remember when Obama got elected I don't recall myself or my friends marching and protesting that. Maybe I live in a non protesting area though... The false equivalence between Trump and Obama honestly disgusts me but no one who can convince themselves it's real is going to have their minds changed by my words, so...whatever the ***.
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I don't believe in protesting cause it requires marching and chanting.
Seems like a cult to me. Everyone agreeing with something is scary. Bahamut.Ravael said: »  How utterly insulting to people facing real problems in our country -- conservative/liberal, rural, urban, old and young, immigrant or natural-born -- to compare them to the right/left Triggered™ crowd. Of course, the natural response here is just to say all I'm doing is what your glib image states...but I digress.
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