Random Politics & Religion #18

always gotta be half "this debate is serious!" and half "but it's also on a website dedicated to a 15 year old video game."

Are we above anything?

15 of 19 of the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. The rest were from Lebanon, Egypt and the UAE. None of which are included in this Muslim ban.


It doesn't matter where they received training and where the terrorist boot camps are. Besides, there's substantial evidence that Saudi Arabia helped fund 9/11.

More Americans have been killed by people like Dylann Roof than foreign terrorists since 9/11. The Boston marathon bombing was committed by two American citizens.

This EO only serves to incite hatred and violence, not stop it.

There was a guy called Pol Pot that did a few bad things...but who cares about killing 25% of Cambodia !

Yes they were Americans, but for the record what religion were they again?

Just don't talk about religion even though that is the title of the thread...we tried that once and it ended badly !

I doubt it I've seen it all. Hitler references seems to be the new normal.

If Hitler were alive today he would be like really ? There is no other evil person to compare someone too !

Same reason as Stalin. They were killing their own people. Governments tend to be fine with that.

Hitler killed his own people AND his neighbors. Silly man.

Same reason as Stalin. They were killing their own people. Governments tend to be fine with that.

Hitler killed his own people AND his neighbors. Silly man.

Yes they were Americans, but for the record what religion were they again?

Most voters approve of President Trump’s temporary halt to refugees and visitors from several Middle Eastern and African countries until the government can do a better job of keeping out individuals who are terrorist threats.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 57% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a temporary ban on refugees from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen until the federal government approves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here. Thirty-three percent (33%) are opposed, while 10% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Similarly, 56% favor a temporary block on visas prohibiting residents of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen from entering the United States until the government approves its ability to screen for likely terrorists. Thirty-two percent (32%) oppose this temporary ban, and 11% are undecided.

This survey was taken late last week prior to the weekend protests against Trump’s executive orders imposing a four-month ban on all refugees and a temporary visa ban on visitors from these seven countries.

These findings have changed little from August when 59% of voters agreed with Trump’s call for a temporary ban on immigration into the United States from "the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world that have a history of exporting terrorism” until the federal government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists.

Well, one thing is for sure. All this outrage is a sure sign that Trump is now screwed. He's beyond the pale. He's toast. He's on his way to imminent impeachment. He's... supported by the majority?


Oops.

Weren't you the one complaining about these polls to begin with?

Kara, it was taken prior to the protests, not prior to the order. I guess there are people that will change their mind because other people whine loud enough, but I guess we'll see.


I know the faults of polls, and I wouldn't take any one number to heart. It's just high enough that it destroys the narrative that this is some crazy order that the majority of Americans hate. On a similar note Quinnipiac has a poll showing more supporting than not supporting the order by 6%.

destroys the narrative