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Random Politics & Arguments Over Nothing #16
Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-12 14:59:48
Sounds like we got some people who never read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist essays by the founding fathers in US History/Civics classes.
Let me help you 2 out: Federalist no 68.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-12 15:00:33
My main problem is that, how do you influence an election and lose the popular vote by over 2.5 million votes? Why would Putin want to take a chance on trump when the Clinton's are always for sale and already bought and paid for?
Hello uranium deal. You mean the deal that required approval from several departments outside Clinton's sphere of influence? Yeah the one where The Clinton foundation got paid right after it went through.
By Ramyrez 2016-12-12 15:00:39
And we all know how that's gonna end *pulls up hair and closes eyes*
...?
Wrong ending..?
(/w\)
By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:01:42
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election.
The Federalist Papers: No. 68
Quote: The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-12 15:02:00
am I playing this right?
By Ramyrez 2016-12-12 15:02:17
Lulz at Trump being "weak"
He's a slave to his own ego.
That's an incredible weakness to someone who knows how to exploit it.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-12 15:02:58
I know I'm being a very bad girl tonight.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-12-12 15:03:00
Well the Electoral College was designed so someone like Trump couldn't take office. I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election. Read Madison. James, not Ashley.
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Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-12-12 15:03:14
My main problem is that, how do you influence an election and lose the popular vote by over 2.5 million votes?
I think you just don't understand what the word influence means. Well I guess not, but it still baffles me that if we didn't have that Electoral College, Trump would have 100% lost.
Well the Electoral College was designed so someone like Trump couldn't take office.
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election. Look at you just lobbing out insults... cmon where's the actual contributions to the conversation man? Lol...
By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:03:25
Why would Putin want to take a chance on trump when the Clinton's are always for sale and already bought and paid for?
Hello uranium deal.
Why buy someone out when you can just manipulate a weak opponent for free. Lulz at Trump being "weak"
Devil you know vs the devil you don't.
Politically, he is as experienced as you and me.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-12 15:04:03
Lulz at Trump being "weak"
He's a slave to his own ego.
That's an incredible weakness to someone who knows how to exploit it.
So incredible of a weakness than it cost him the election.
Oh wait...
By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:04:15
By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:05:24
Well the Electoral College was designed so someone like Trump couldn't take office.
It's the opposite, it's made so all states matter more and not just highly populated areas, otherwise rural areas would be completely.
It is more about the electors being the ones voting so that the population doesn't vote in someone who is inexperienced.
I am actually for the EC, I just think it needs some updating.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-12 15:05:25
Why would Putin want to take a chance on trump when the Clinton's are always for sale and already bought and paid for?
Hello uranium deal.
Why buy someone out when you can just manipulate a weak opponent for free. Lulz at Trump being "weak"
Devil you know vs the devil you don't.
Politically, he is as experienced as you and me. Except for the fact that he's president elect, I'd agree with you.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-12-12 15:05:51
Day one, page nine.
And so far Fone hasn't caled for the threadlock....
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By Asura.Dameshi 2016-12-12 15:07:20
It's been NINE PAGES of semi-civil hoopla at least.
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By Ramyrez 2016-12-12 15:08:36
Lulz at Trump being "weak"
He's a slave to his own ego.
That's an incredible weakness to someone who knows how to exploit it.
So incredible of a weakness than it cost him the election.
Oh wait...
Heh.
Well, we maintain the status quo in that if I'm wrong, we all win, and if I'm right...we don't win so much.
So I'll just be here continuing to hope I'm wrong.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-12-12 15:08:52
Russian hacking is the new birtherism.
By Ramyrez 2016-12-12 15:09:04
It's been NINE PAGES of semi-civil hoopla at least.
Could one say life's been good to you so far?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-12 15:09:14
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election.
The Federalist Papers: No. 68
Quote: The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
So, you could make the case for practically any person running for office that you don't like. That's why it's a dumb argument.
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By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:09:17
Lulz at Trump being "weak"
He's a slave to his own ego.
That's an incredible weakness to someone who knows how to exploit it.
So incredible of a weakness than it cost him the election.
Oh wait...
Heh.
Well, we maintain the status quo in that if I'm wrong, we all win, and if I'm right...we don't win so much.
So I'll just be here continuing to hope I'm wrong.
Sounds like my argument against Atheism.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-12 15:10:50
My main problem is that, how do you influence an election and lose the popular vote by over 2.5 million votes?
I think you just don't understand what the word influence means. Well I guess not, but it still baffles me that if we didn't have that Electoral College, Trump would have 100% lost.
Well the Electoral College was designed so someone like Trump couldn't take office.
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election. Look at you just lobbing out insults... cmon where's the actual contributions to the conversation man? Lol...
The argument is stupid (he's not the first to make it), not the person. Try and keep up. Also, calling me out on one instance does not even come close to bringing me down to your level, so you'll have to do better than that.
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By eliroo 2016-12-12 15:11:12
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election.
The Federalist Papers: No. 68
Quote: The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
So, you could make the case for practically any person running for office that you don't like. That's why it's a dumb argument.
So you really think that Trump is qualified to be President of the United States?
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-12 15:14:40
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election.
The Federalist Papers: No. 68
Quote: The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
So, you could make the case for practically any person running for office that you don't like. That's why it's a dumb argument.
So you really think that Trump is qualified to be President of the United States?
By what criteria? Where is it clearly outlined exactly what attributes a person has to have to be president? Why is this even an argument in an election where both candidates could be viewed as "unqualified"?
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Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-12-12 15:15:43
My main problem is that, how do you influence an election and lose the popular vote by over 2.5 million votes?
I think you just don't understand what the word influence means. Well I guess not, but it still baffles me that if we didn't have that Electoral College, Trump would have 100% lost.
Well the Electoral College was designed so someone like Trump couldn't take office.
I hope you're not being serious, because that's one of the stupidest talking points that I've seen since the election. Look at you just lobbing out insults... cmon where's the actual contributions to the conversation man? Lol...
The argument is stupid (he's not the first to make it), not the person. Try and keep up. Also, calling me out on one instance does not even come close to bringing me down to your level, so you'll have to do better than that. My level? You continue on with the insults sir! I mean jeebus is that all you do?
your opinion is that it's stupid... you also didn't have to word it in an insulting way... you could have shown why you disagreed with it and discussed but you just lob out insults and that's about it.. its fairly hypocritical to call someone out for something like that and the go off insulting someone else and such lol...
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-12 15:15:51
Can I be president of the united states?!
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Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-12 15:16:13
Qualified is a nebulous word here given opinions of character.
Maybe "Does person x meet the expected standard of character to be president?"
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Lakshmi.Zerowone
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-12-12 15:17:30
Can I be president of the united states?!
Of course you can, at the low low price of tree fiddy
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-12-12 15:17:33
your opinion is that it's stupid... you also didn't have to word it in an insulting way... you could have shown why you disagreed with it and discussed but you just lob out insults and that's about it.. its fairly hypocritical to call someone out for something like that and the go off insulting someone else and such lol...
We're continuing the argument and discussing the details as we speak. You're still here trying to pick a fight with me, and since you can never back up anything you say, you're not worth my time. Good day.
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