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Random Politics & Religion #11
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-27 07:18:19
Hillary Clinton can pander all she wants she could not make a positive difference in her over 25 years in washington d.c . All she can say she accomplished was creating ISIS by waging all those wars she supported sowing chaos in the world over throwing nations in the middle east and north africa.
After what she did in Haiti along with her Brother and her husband they robbed and took advantage of those people down there. She has no chance in hell of winning this election she can prepare all she wants she would best be preparing to go to jail and pray i'm not sure if she is religious that the american people will pay for her upkeep in prison. Which is extremely unlikely
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-09-27 07:54:21
She was also very effective as First Lady and Senator at denying gay Americans rights, equality and dignity.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-27 08:03:35
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »She was also very effective as First Lady and Senator at denying gay Americans rights, equality and dignity.
True and only when it's convenient for her to get votes does she lie about really backing it.
Another thing she can say she accomplished was by putting more Americans in jail from her support of the prison industry which has been ruining the records of millions of prisoners mostly youth blacks and Hispanic and whites.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-09-27 08:11:14
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »She was also very effective as First Lady and Senator at denying gay Americans rights, equality and dignity.
So you are going to vote for her?
No, I will not be voting for a woman that actively discriminated against gay Americans her entire career and made her bigotry the law of the land.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 08:17:28
...did you just admit you live in an alternate reality?
Tell us, what color is the sky in your reality.
You need to seek some kind of relationship counseling, you're clearly still taking me rejecting your advances badly that your saying science fiction comic book ***, i told you that's not my lifestyle choices. You should be careful i your lifestyle choice has a higher risk of transmitted diseases, so please be safe. Like I said before, I would rather go after Ramyrez and Bloodrose before I even look at you.
Besides, why are you trying to get me to notice you? Stop it, I'm not your senpai.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 08:18:28
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »No, I will not be voting for a woman that actively discriminated against gay Americans her entire career and made her bigotry the law of the land.
But you are fine voting for a man for the same reasons? Bill can't run again.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 08:31:20
I just find it weird that Aman uses that as an argument. It has no value because it's not her stance right now. Trump used to vote for the democrats ... does that mean he is still one? He used to donate to democrats, because he knows that they aren't for the people, but for their donors.
There is a big difference there.
By fonewear 2016-09-27 08:45:15
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Sadly this is the type of dialogue you can expect here; Bring up and point and just get it condescendingly ignored and mocked.
It's like trying to talk to a 10 year old and they can't handle a healthy conversation.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 08:49:56
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By fonewear 2016-09-27 08:50:57
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-09-27 08:52:21
I just find it weird that Aman uses that as an argument. It has no value because it's not her stance right now. Trump used to vote for the democrats ... does that mean he is still one?
It has tremendous value. It shows the truth of Hillary Clinton and her nature.
When she is in office and has the power to make real change, when she has the power to do the right thing she does the wrong thing. When you are Senator or First Lady you are not simply expressing opinion; you are actively fighting against equality for gay Americans. She only changed her mind after 2012 when she wasn't even Secretary of State anymore. The fight for marriage equality was essentially over at that time. Her side lost.
This track is on repeat for her entire career on issue after issue or war after war.
By fonewear 2016-09-27 08:52:41
So Donny should do the following.
Shut the *** up, you're out of your element. And the Chinaman is not the issue here dude !
By fonewear 2016-09-27 09:00:45
Hillary called me deplorable I think that's an honor and a privilege !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 09:01:43
Pointing out a stance she long ago abandoned Except it wasn't that long ago, it was when it was politically convenient for her to abandon it.
And I'm 100% sure that if it were to be politically convenient to take up anti-gay stances again, she would do it in a heartbeat.
Face it, your horse is a political hack. Just like her defenders.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-27 09:43:15
No, what's more important is why the stance was changed. If someone changes stance simply because of political climate, it shows that they're insincere and are willing to barter their own integrity in exchange for votes.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-09-27 09:58:11
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I just find it weird that Aman uses that as an argument. It has no value because it's not her stance right now. Trump used to vote for the democrats ... does that mean he is still one?
It has tremendous value. It shows the truth of Hillary Clinton and her nature.
When she is in office and has the power to make real change, when she has the power to do the right thing she does the wrong thing. When you are Senator or First Lady you are not simply expressing opinion; you are actively fighting against equality for gay Americans. She only changed her mind after 2012 when she wasn't even Secretary of State anymore. The fight for marriage equality was essentially over at that time. Her side lost.
This track is on repeat for her entire career on issue after issue or war after war. I'm not sure what your point is here.... Trying to turn things around to make her look like republicans that are continuing to do this? The ones that at trying to repeal homosexuals ability to marry in the United States or the individual states that still fight it? At least she saw that she was on the losing side and crossed over rather than continue to fight a losing battle with the remaining discriminators and bigots as you called her...
I guess the real question is will you refuse to vote for any politician whether it be republican or democrat that did or still does discriminate against gays or is this just your way of trying to discredit Hillary as being against a typically current liberal stance on gay marriage...
It's hard to really look back and see any politician that was pro-gay their entire career as it was heavily frowned upon not very long ago by the general public en masse and still today in many places... The important thing I think is for people to realize their mistakes and go forward with a proper vision for the future... Hard to really tell with politicians though since most of them have morals that change with what they think will get them into and keep them in office...
Oh well..
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 10:00:04
What kind of twisted logic is this. The proper thing is voting for the bigot who's stance "supposedly" didn't change for political reasons even if it's a shitty stance?
Clinton did a full flop on gay marriage ... like 3 or 4 years ago it doesn't matter. What matters is what her stance is right now. Good, now that Trump had "flipped" his stance on immigration where he isn't going to deport all the illegals like the media said he said, and instead going to make it easier for them to obtain citizenship, like he originally said, you can't decry "flip flop"
Because that would make you a hypocrite...again.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-27 10:01:23
No, what's more important is why the stance was changed. If someone changes stance simply because of political climate, it shows that they're insincere and are willing to barter their own integrity in exchange for votes.
So like I said, you rather vote for the bigot who has a shitty stance because he's "sincere" in his stupidity, instead of the one who has a proper stance but only because of the public opinion.
Twisted logic. And if you were American, you would rather vote for the bigot who has a shitty stance because she "opened her eyes and her heart" to her original, 30 year long stupidity, just to pander for votes.
Because, feels.
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