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 Asura.Kingnobody
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-26 11:51:59
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Hey Rav, congratulations on being my cohort.

Let's go rob a bank together, or run for office! According to LG, both are equally illegal in his eyes.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-26 11:53:21
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Yo kingnobody i bet you didn't see this on CNN and MSNBC

Yeah... this pretty much proves that you don't know KN very well.
To be honest, I do check news reports from CNN and MSN.

I then check those same reports on other outlets. It helps me remove the fluff associated with those reports, so I can see the real story from the wool.

Eh, I was more challenging the notion that those would be your go-to news sources, which is how I interpreted his statement. It's not always easy to interpret someone who makes no sense, though.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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Yo kingnobody i bet you didn't see this on CNN and MSNBC

Yeah... this pretty much proves that you don't know KN very well.
To be honest, I do check news reports from CNN and MSN.

I then check those same reports on other outlets. It helps me remove the fluff associated with those reports, so I can see the real story from the wool.

Eh, I was more challenging the notion that those would be your go-to news sources, which is how I interpreted his statement. It's not always easy to interpret someone who makes no sense, though.
Ah, I see.

Well, I don't use any single source, evidenced by my constant sourcing of reports on this forum. I try not to source from overly partisan stories though, and pick the best report to post.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-26 12:07:51
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Odin.Slore said: »
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Back on the debate topic, I think it's hilarious that people are begging Lester Holt to fact-check Trump at the debate. If you needed evidence that Clinton supporters don't think she's up for the job, asking the moderator to go full-partisan and do her debate work pretty much seals it.

I agree with you 100% on this one. It is not moderators job to fact check people it is the job of the candidates to fact check each other. Notice how they only asking mods to fact check him? Doesn't help that Lester is a huge democrat.
Holt is a registered Republican. Just more pre-whining from Trump so he can blame any potential gaffes on the media.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
I may have a low opinion of the media, but I highly doubt they would report something without checking to see if it's true or not.

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Here are 35 huge lies the mainstream media repeatedly reported as "facts" that we now know to be total lies:

1) Brian Williams: "The helicopter I was riding in got hit with an RPG."

2) President Obama: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

3) Lance Armstrong: "I never doped."

4) The CDC: "There's no evidence linking vaccines to autism."

5) The NSA: "We aren't spying on the phone calls or emails of U.S. citizens."

6) The U.S. Navy: "No sailors were harmed by Fukushima radiation."

7) The mainstream media: "What Fukushima radiation?"

8) The American Diabetes Association: "Diabetes cannot be reversed; only managed with expensive medication."

10) Government-run schools: "Common Core provides your child with a quality, historically-accurate education."

11) The FCC: "We don't want to really control the internet. We just want to regulate it a little."

12) Big Pharma: "We don't need to charge you exorbitant prices for drugs for our own profits; we only need the money to bring you amazing breakthroughs!" (REALITY: Most drug company R&D money comes from taxpayer dollars funneled through the NIH.)

13) Every news station in America: "Unvaccinated children put vaccinated children at great risk because vaccines work so well they make vaccinated children immune... unless there are unvaccinated children around in which case the unvaccinated children cause the vaccinated children to revert to unvaccinated status which is bad. And that's where measles comes from!"

14) The U.S. Congress: "We can pay off the national debt by slightly reducing the acceleration of the growth of new debt being added to it."

15) The Federal Reserve: "Printing more fiat currency is good for the economy, and inflated stock market valuations prove it!" (Until one day they don't, anyway...)

16) The IRS: "We need your tax revenues to fund the government." (But when banksters need another trillion-dollar bailout, they instantly create the money from nothing.)

17) Monsanto: "Glyphosate is perfectly safe for human consumption and has zero negative impacts on the environment."

18) British Petroleum: "We completely cleaned up the Gulf of Mexico. What dolphins? We thought those were greasy sea otters..."

19) The FDA: "The psychiatric drugging of children helps children become healthier."

20) The American Dental Association: "Mercury is awesome! Especially when we drill it into your mouth."

21) Vaccine manufacturers: "What mercury?"

22) The USDA: "Every GMO crop the biotech industry comes up with is totally safe for open-field planting! No worries!"

23) Every liberal media outlet: "Everything is so screwed up by big government that the only answer is BIGGER government!"

24) Children's hospitals: "We are kidnapping your children and forcing them to undergo chemotherapy because we know better than you do what's good for them."

25) Your local TV news station: "Children's vitamins are dangerous!"

26) That same local TV news station: "But mercury in vaccines makes children healthier!"

27) Your local city: "Dumping fluoride chemicals into the public water supply is just one of the many ways we selflessly serve the humanitarian needs of society."

28) All mainstream doctors over the last 20 years: "Eating cholesterol in foods causes heart disease."

29) Those same doctors: And because cholesterol is so horrible, statin drugs are awesome and help everyone!

30) CNBC: "The rising stock market proves the economy is strong, and it has nothing to do with money printing by the Fed."

31) The White House: "The number of unemployed Americans is falling, just like we promised. See? These numbers prove it..."

32) Mainstream media: "Illegal immigrants carry no disease into U.S. cities, but unvaccinated American children are filthy and dangerous."

33) Every mainstream media newspaper in America: "There is no CDC whistleblower named Dr. William Thompson, and he never confessed to taking part in the fraudulent alteration of data to bury any link between vaccines and autism."

34) NBC News: "When Brian Williams lies to the world, that's okay. But when independent media organizations report the truth, they're crazy!"

35) Every "science" columnist carried by the mainstream media: "Aspartame is totally safe! In fact, it's probably just as safe as vaccines! Maybe even as safe as eating glyphosate or GMOs."
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-26 12:20:01
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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Back on the debate topic, I think it's hilarious that people are begging Lester Holt to fact-check Trump at the debate. If you needed evidence that Clinton supporters don't think she's up for the job, asking the moderator to go full-partisan and do her debate work pretty much seals it.

I agree with you 100% on this one. It is not moderators job to fact check people it is the job of the candidates to fact check each other. Notice how they only asking mods to fact check him? Doesn't help that Lester is a huge democrat.
Holt is a registered Republican. Just more pre-whining from Trump so he can blame any potential gaffes on the media.

Yeah, Holt gets bombarded with requests to fact-check in behalf of I-Can't-Handle-My-Own-Campaign Clinton and it's Trump that's the problem. Keep on spinnin', my friend.
 
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-26 12:29:50
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I just find it humorous that people blindly trust a man who doesn't understand what a blind trust is.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-26 12:30:05
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Yeah, Holt gets bombarded with requests to fact-check in behalf of I-Can't-Handle-My-Own-Campaign Clinton and it's Trump that's the problem. Keep on spinnin', my friend.
He's trying to lie about the moderator's politics, which have *** all to do with anything anyway. No spin necessary.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-26 12:36:28
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It's beautiful "Hey Republican moderator make sure you fact check your boy because we want impartiality"

"Looks like Clinton can't do her job!!yuk yuk"

Mean while in the GOP primaries:

"Debates are biased with all these Democratic moderators fact checking and making the Republican candidates look bad. I don't care if the moderators are Republicans they're just RHINOs who are paid by the mainstream media conglomerates to secretly push the liberal agenda"
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-26 12:39:38
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1) Brian Williams said it, not "mainstream media"
2) Obama said it.
3) Lance Armstrong said it.
4) Not a lie
5) They aren't. They are collecting metadata which is placed in storage for later retrieval. You know, for forensic purposes. If they really were spying, don't you think a lot more terrorist activity would have been caught before it happens?
6) Proof they said it?
7) Proof?
8) That was years ago when the understanding of diabetes was not as extensive as it is today.
9) Where's #9? What a bad copy/pasta!
10) Um...what?
11) Proof or it didn't happen.
12) Opinion at best.
13) Hi2u herd immunity.
14) Yes, you can. It's called paying down the principle, or in this case, slowing down the spending.
15) The Federal Reserve doesn't condone it's own practices. They actually think they are doing the world some good! And, with all the information they have, they could be.
16) Yes, they do need money to fund the government. How else can the government get funded?
17) Not getting into GMO debate. I don't know enough about that topic to weigh in an opinion.
18) Where's the quote?
19) What nonsense. Where's that quote?
20) I call *** on this one.
21) See: #20
22) See: #17, however I want evidence on this "quote"
23) Are you kidding? Liberals don't see a problem with big government at all, so how can they say that big government is screwed up?
24) What
The
***?

I mean, come on, I know you like to stretch the truth a lot, but even then, this goes beyond the breaking point.
25) Prove any station said that.
26) See: #20 & #21
27) San Antonio Water System never said that. They said this instead
28) It does. Or are you going to say otherwise? If so, please eat as much lard as you want and let us know how you feel in a couple of weeks.
29) I'm going to have to refer this to Pleebo.
30) CNBC never said that. They would never say that.
31) Of course the unemployment rate is low, a lot of people aren't counted because they aren't actively looking for work.
32) Mainstream media would never say that, it would hurt too many feels.
33) Um...what? He pointed out a link, but his research was never verified. That's the beauty of science, other people can verify your work or you become discredited.
34) NBC never said that. Proof please!
35) Prove it!

And you think I wouldn't respond to all that ***!
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Odin.Slore said: »
It is not moderators job to fact check people it is the job of the candidates to fact check each other.
Couldn't disagree more. How is the opponent who conveniently spins everything you say a good fact checker? Especially knowing that they're also consistent liars...
The moderator should by definition take care of the impartial tasks, which include telling someone they are pulling for example a number out of thin air.
 
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Josiahkf said: »
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So who is ready for debate tonight? Thoughts? I really think Trump is going to shine as long as he can keep his temper in check because I think clinton going to try to egg him on and get him to make a outburst or 3.

Trump can open the debate by belching the alphabet and I am still voting for him.
what if he told you he was open to nuclear arms useage. would you still vote for him?
Are you still on that?
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Trump and Hillary are salesmen...Do you know how to tell if salesmen are lying!? Watch our chests! and if it looks like they are moving EVEN A LITTLE NOW AND THEN then everything we are saying is a lie!

finding any facts in this debate will be about as likely as finding the holy grail...
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
finding any facts in this debate will be about as likely as finding the holy grail...
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
1) kingnobody admits he believes everything the mainstream media reports and what the government says through it.

To each his or her own I won't hold it against you for being willfully ignorant.
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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finding any facts in this debate will be about as likely as finding the holy grail...
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You can thank me later.

Thanking you now I love Monty Python movie's never get tired of the Holy grail.
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
To each his or her own I won't hold it against you for being willfully ignorant.
I ask for evidence to your assertions, and you provide none. Which is normal, I guess.

Also, where's #9. At the very least you have shown that you don't even read anyone's responses.

Who's willfully ignorant now?
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Something interesting to look at
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Hey Rav, congratulations on being my cohort.

Let's go rob a bank together, or run for office! According to LG, both are equally illegal in his eyes.

The only way it would be illegal for you to run for office let's say the presidency would be if you were not naturally born on any of the 50 states soil.

The highest office a foreign born can attain is Senator but even then if the chain of command were slain the president's role would pass to a natural born citizen 9ver the foreign born.

Things do need changed though I don't think any representative should be able to hold dual citizenship and even representatives should be natural born as well with both parents being natural born.

Also i wouldn't suggest you rob a bank that is illegal. What you could do is start up a bank by getting a bank charter and steal your money legally there as this very practice is going on today.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-26 13:26:47
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LG's #24 was probably refering to "Parentectomy*".

This case in particular has been in the news:

Parents of Justina Pelletier sue Boston Children’s Hospital
Boston Globe


Justina Pelletier's family to sue Boston hospital after long custody fight

Fox News

Justina Pelletier and her Parents will have their Day in Court
Daily Kos

The Sad, Scary Saga of Justina Pelletier
Slate (this is probably the best overview bleive it or not.)

*Too many definitions of this word to list.
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
The only way it would be illegal for you to run for office let's say the presidency would be if you were not naturally born on any of the 50 states soil.
What about if you were born on a military base? Would that automatically disclude a presidency run? I mean, you would still be a US citizen, but according to your narrow viewpoint, they aren't eligible.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
What you could do is start up a bank by getting a bank charter and steal your money legally there as this very practice is going on today.
Is that what you think banks do? Really?
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
LG's #24 was probably refering to "Parentectomy*".

This case in particular has been in the news:

Parents of Justina Pelletier sue Boston Children’s Hospital
Boston Globe


Justina Pelletier's family to sue Boston hospital after long custody fight

Fox News

Justina Pelletier and her Parents will have their Day in Court
Daily Kos

The Sad, Scary Saga of Justina Pelletier
Slate (this is probably the best overview bleive it or not.)

*Too many definitions of this word to list.
A) That's an interesting case.

B) Well, that's not a lie told by the mainstream media. Good going Chanti, you proven LG wrong.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-26 13:39:21
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
What you could do is start up a bank by getting a bank charter and steal your money legally there as this very practice is going on today.
Is that what you think banks do? Really?

Banks today already violate the breach of Trust between there customers.

Did you know your bank is loaning out over half of your bank account to new customers for loans and charging interest on your money without your permission?

And if heaven forbid a disaster happens and all the customers including yourself were to go to the bank to withdraw all there money the bank would not be able too because it was stealing your money you entrusted to them to hold in its entirety and they breached the Trust by using it for there own.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-26 13:47:58
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Did you know your bank is loaning out over half of your bank account to new customers for loans and charging interest on your money without your permission?

That's not some kind of conspiracy. Everyone who even has the faintest idea of how a bank works already realizes that. This may surprise you, but banks are businesses. They do this to make money.
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