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Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential Thread
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 21:34:17
Lets not forget FDR's Polio being obscured during the campaigns and Reagan's Alzheimer's which set in during his second term.
Both let's be real, if Clinton's got Parkinson's we're up shits creek without a paddle cause that means both candidates have neurological disorders.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-11 21:35:00
That made me laugh.
By Eboneezer 2016-09-11 21:35:52
I believe that Eboneezer should open everyone of their posts on this thread with "Hillary Clinton walked into Gary's today...."
I'd be lying. I am willing to compromise with "Hillary Clinton was carried into Gary's by her protective detail today..." or "Hillary Clinton was propped up by a woman and a pole inside Gary's today, where she was hugging small children while wearing sweat soaked clothing from her pneumonia overheating and coughing everywhere with those pesky allergies that she just can't shake since January.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 21:42:38
Well, she fainted and had a concussion (no one around to keep her from cracking her head open) in 2012, so likely had beginning to moderate stages of PD at that time. In four years I can't imagine it getting any better which is why you saw her medical doctor with her at many gatherings until people began pointing out he was there. He made a reappearance on her plane and was shown in the recent video.
Now that health issues is out of the bag, she can have another doctor with her at all times.
By fonewear 2016-09-11 21:42:44
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 21:47:17
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »Well, she fainted and had a concussion (no one around to keep her from cracking her head open) in 2012, so likely had beginning to moderate stages of PD at that time. In four years I can't imagine it getting any better which is why you saw her medical doctor with her at many gatherings until people began pointing out he was there. He made a reappearance on her plane and was shown in the recent video.
Now that health issues is out of the bag, she can have another doctor with her at all times.
You should have been a doctor! There is still time, make sure to bring your armchair with you.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 21:56:50
Jadey's already posted lots of info about the PD diagnosis, and that's just one person of many out there who see it.
But I guess this is just a case of lots of smoke and no fire, huh?
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 22:03:59
Hillary has just cancelled her west coast fundraisers and Ellen appearance this week. Feel better, H!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 22:04:27
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »Jadey's already posted lots of info about the PD diagnosis, and that's just one person of many out there who see it.
But I guess this is just a case of lots of smoke and no fire, huh?
No not at all. I'm sure you wish your little armchair diagnosis could generate smoke, but its not. She has pneumonia, hopefully she recovers fast. Thats it. Story end. Wild speculation ensues.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-11 22:09:04
YouTube vids and testimonials from rando doctors. What more is needed really
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 22:17:48
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That Shkreli is such a "phrama bro".
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 22:20:07
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »Jadey's already posted lots of info about the PD diagnosis, and that's just one person of many out there who see it.
But I guess this is just a case of lots of smoke and no fire, huh?
No not at all. I'm sure you wish your little armchair diagnosis could generate smoke, but its not. She has pneumonia, hopefully she recovers fast. Thats it. Story end. Wild speculation ensues.
Good idea. The fact that media accepted that from the Clinton campaign without question should put us all at ease and we should just accept it as absolute truth. We shouldn't bother to try and think critically about anything in our lives and accept things outright - oh unless we don't agree with them. Then no amount of convincing can do otherwise.
I swear, you partisans are absurd. I'm looking at two shitlord candidates and somehow you've convinced yourself that she is spotless and hasn't had the media backing her since "winning" the primary.
And then we've got the potential child molesting Donald Trump who may have gone down to Lolita Island - one of Former President Clinton's favorite getaways.
All they needed to do was not *** over Bernie in the primary and none of this shitstorm would have come to be. But she made too many promises, too many sellouts, too interconnected into the system for it to just end.
Let's use our brains for once and observe the existing evidence and facts, shall we?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 22:30:16
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »Jadey's already posted lots of info about the PD diagnosis, and that's just one person of many out there who see it.
But I guess this is just a case of lots of smoke and no fire, huh?
No not at all. I'm sure you wish your little armchair diagnosis could generate smoke, but its not. She has pneumonia, hopefully she recovers fast. Thats it. Story end. Wild speculation ensues.
Good idea. The fact that media accepted that from the Clinton campaign without question should put us all at ease and we should just accept it as absolute truth. We shouldn't bother to try and think critically about anything in our lives and accept things outright - oh unless we don't agree with them. Then no amount of convincing can do otherwise.
I swear, you partisans are absurd. I'm looking at two shitlord candidates and somehow you've convinced yourself that she is spotless and hasn't had the media backing her since "winning" the primary.
And then we've got the potential child molesting Donald Trump who may have gone down to Lolita Island - one of Former President Clinton's favorite getaways.
All they needed to do was not *** over Bernie in the primary and none of this shitstorm would have come to be. But she made too many promises, too many sellouts, too interconnected into the system for it to just end.
Let's use our brains for once and observe the existing evidence and facts, shall we?
Now you are just trying to change the conversation, we aren't talking about the merits of the candidates here. We are talking about YOU making up conspiracy theories about Clinton's health. There is no "existing evidence" to examine. You are trying to take pneumonia to parkinsons. Stupid. It has nothing to do with partisanship. Its about not giving your wild ideas the time of day.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-11 22:30:57
A brain in use would realize that a proper diagnosis requires standardized exams in a controlled environment and not press snippets off youtube. The hubris coming from someone spouting tabloid rumors as truth is fun though.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 22:35:05
A month ago I was taking it from, "she's perfectly healthy" to Parkinson's.
A week ago I was taking it from, "just a cough" to Parkinson's.
This morning I was taking it from, "record setting sweltering heat wave in NYC today" to Parkinson's.
This afternoon I was taking it from, "pneumonia diagnosis" to Parkinson's.
I think I'll stick to my story and see how things continue to unfold, but thanks.
By Jadey 2016-09-11 22:48:45
A brain in use would realize that a proper diagnosis requires standardized exams in a controlled environment and not press snippets off youtube. The hubris coming from someone spouting tabloid rumors as truth is fun though.
Ok cool I'm game for both major candidates to submit to a board of independent physicians for a full diagnostic panel and health screening with the results made available for public viewing and scrutiny so we can know for sure whether or not either candidate has any hidden diseases or disorders that might render them ineffective in office or lead to an untimely death.
Oh, wait, that's never going to happen? And we have a clear history of Presidents and Presidential candidates from both parties concealing health problems and outright lying about their conditions, often backed up by their personal doctors and the media? We have a situation where the same day Hillary was diagnosed with pneumonia, her campaign surrogates were telling reporters on Twitter 'delete your account' because they were still asking questions about her health. Was that done to obscure the diagnosis, or was it simply not passed along to anyone outside the inner circle?
Gee golly glumpers if only we lived in an ideal world where nobody ever lied and all information was always made available and clear on demand, we wouldn't need to turn to third party distance examinations of press footage and man-on-the street captures of Presidential candidates dragged into their vans after they've lost consciousness to be able to make determinations like "Which candidate is healthier and has the stamina to spend between four and eight years as the leader of this country" and "Does the candidate with enough strange bodily episodes, awkward reactions and uncontrollable coughing fits on tape to fill a YouTube compilation video have something wrong with them, or are all of those incidents completely independent of one another and they are actually fit as a fiddle"
Nah though we don't have any hard copies of their full health screenings and diagnosis, without that we should just take the campaign at their word, everything is fine, just a little sniffle and throat tickle, just a cough that hasn't gone away in months, just a candidate who takes multiple days off the trail regularly while the older opponent jets cross country almost daily to arena rallies, none of this means anything, none of this is important, they're feeling great!
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-11 22:49:06
If she sneezes during the debates I'll go ahead and make the "RIP Hillary" thread myself.
By Jadey 2016-09-11 22:50:55
Wait, damn it, I've been discredited, Dr. Vlasic was able to prove without a shadow of a doubt that she's JUST FINE.
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Let's try that again!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 22:54:23
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »A month ago I was taking it from, "she's perfectly healthy" to Parkinson's.
A week ago I was taking it from, "just a cough" to Parkinson's.
This morning I was taking it from, "record setting sweltering heat wave in NYC today" to Parkinson's.
This afternoon I was taking it from, "pneumonia diagnosis" to Parkinson's.
I think I'll stick to my story and see how things continue to unfold, but thanks.
Wait, what happened to you advocating using our brains? You know what, nvm, I will leave you to your idiocy.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 22:58:46
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »A month ago I was taking it from, "she's perfectly healthy" to Parkinson's.
A week ago I was taking it from, "just a cough" to Parkinson's.
This morning I was taking it from, "record setting sweltering heat wave in NYC today" to Parkinson's.
This afternoon I was taking it from, "pneumonia diagnosis" to Parkinson's.
I think I'll stick to my story and see how things continue to unfold, but thanks.
Wait, what happened to you advocating using our brains? You know what, nvm, I will leave you to your idiocy.
The fact is, the evidence has been out there all along. The media rhetoric has shifted only due to what's irrefutable proof, and even then it was done by dragging them along not unlike Hillary getting dragged into her motorcade. Try gaslighting some more. You can always backpedal in the future anyway.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 23:00:09
The red coat she's wearing makes me think she's fishbot from timesplitters.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 23:02:54
errr robofish*
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 23:13:58
Caitsith.Mahayaya said: »The fact is, the evidence has been out there all along. The media rhetoric has shifted only due to what's irrefutable proof, and even then it was done by dragging them along not unlike Hillary getting dragged into her motorcade. Try gaslighting some more. You can always backpedal in the future anyway.
Wait, what happened to you advocating using our brains? You know what, nvm, I will leave you to your idiocy.
By Jadey 2016-09-11 23:28:26
I don't know I think we should trust the candidate that had their handlers cut off press access and went through multiple straight up lies about her condition and status until visual evidence to the contrary happened to show up on YouTube and Twitter from random citizens, that is a clear sign of a open, honest, and transparent future Hillary administration
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-11 23:37:22
I don't know I think we should trust the candidate that had their handlers cut off press access and went through multiple straight up lies about her condition and status until visual evidence to the contrary happened to show up on YouTube and Twitter from random citizens, that is a clear sign of a open, honest, and transparent future Hillary administration
Well yeah, but I don't think anyone was expecting an open, honest, and transparent Hillary administration anyway.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-12 00:27:54
Parkinson's!? We should suggest she has something far more believable. ..like fourteen kinds of incuarble VD from bill's less than stellar choices for extramarital affairs
By Jadey 2016-09-12 00:30:43
Wow Hillary's doctor released another note and I feel ashamed for even bringing up the stuff I said before
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-12 00:48:12
Wow Hillary's doctor released another note and I feel ashamed for even bringing up the stuff I said before
Some Doctors like this one will say anything to get paid. They will even let the patient prescribe there own medication even when they don't need it to get paid. Sorry Hillary Clinton the American people will not authorize you to go to the white house. But we will authorize you to go to Prison to die in a jail cell like some of the american political prisoners like Irwin Schiff who exposed the fraudulent 16th amendment to the American people only to be jailed for life when he was in his 80's.
He will not be forgotten but you Hillary Clinton will be.
Hillary Clinton Presidential Race 2016
What She Stands For
Education: Make public college debt-free. Fund universal pre-K. Against No Child Left Behind. Position unknown on Common Core.
Guns: Ban several types of assault weapons. Repeal protections for gun makers. Create a comprehensive background check system and close loopholes.
Healthcare: Give the government a role is setting insurance rates. Expand Obamacare but do not attempt to create a universal healthcare system now.
Immigration: Continue DACA and DAPA programs to waive deportation and expand them. Give undocumented residents a path to legal status.
Jobs and Wages: $275 billion stimulus plan. Tax credits for jobs. Raise federal minimum wage to $12 an hour.
Marijuana: “Wait and see” on overall legalization.
Social Issues: Abortion should be legal. So should same-sex marriage.
Taxes: A series of targeted tax credits for the middle class. Raise capital gains taxes.
Israel: Work toward a two-state solution. Do not necessarily freeze settlement building.
Iran: Support framework for nuclear deal. Continue diplomacy efforts and some sanctions.
Islamic State: No boots on the ground. Use regional troops.
Trade: Clinton announced last year that she does not support the Trans-Pacific Partnership as it currently stands. The deal — the largest trade agreement in history — cuts trade barriers, protects multinational corporations’ intellectual properties and sets labor and environmental standards. ( in other works makes the US even more of a jobless nation compared to other "free trade deals"
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