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By Jadey 2016-09-11 15:46:39
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Another angle of her being put in the van:

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/775060974835466240
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-11 15:53:28
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These elections are really bringing out the stupidity in people..

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Her 'freeze' moment on stage where her handler had to help snap her back to the moment
Starting with this one, clear sign of someone who stopped thinking. There were animal protesters under the stage causing a ruckus. Right after you can even hear her say something like "you should be protesting with Trump", or some other dumb thing like that.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-11 15:54:07
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As if these people will somehow be sated by actual proof. The Benghazi and email investigations show that there's no satisfactory response beside the confirmation of what was already decided to be true. She released her doctors letter and she's not obligated to do more. McCain got ***for being old but never to the extent Hillary is. Diapers and tics? Seriously? Just more of the sad ***the GOP needs to crank out to deflect the highly untenable platforms of their candidate.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 16:46:45
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
McCain got ***for being old but never to the extent Hillary is.

...you're kidding, right? All 3 major networks ran pieces on the nightly news openly questioning McCain's fitness for office based on his age and health problems from his time as a POW.

ABC:

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GIBSON: But he's 71 years old. What do the actuarial tables say about a man who's 71 years old?

JOHNSON: The actuarial tables say that if you make it to 71 in overall good health, your life expectancy is about 16 years. That would be age 87. I think that's surprising to many people. Much more difficult, of course, to predict any change in mental acuity. At age 71, there's about a 30 percent chance of developing serious memory loss or even dementia, but experts point out that with aging maybe some skills such as judgment get better. So, Charlie, the old cliche is certainly true in this case: Time will tell.

CBS had Sanjay Gupta on to speculate on McCain's mental health:

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What I didn't see I thought was interesting, as well. There was hardly any mention of his mental health. There was no mention of depression. You know, this is man who had two admittedly weak suicide attempts when he was a prisoner of war. There was no mention of post-traumatic stress disorder or anything that may have been asked, or substance abuse, none of that was even mentioned.

NBC, asking McCain's wife about how old he is:

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ANN CURRY: And she laughed when asked if she has any concerns about his age. You're laughing. Why are you smiling about that?

CINDY MCCAIN: Come spend the day with us.

CURRY: I mean there's never been an older president, at 71. So you've got, this, this is a fair question.

MCCAIN: It is a fair question.

CURRY: And you've seen, as a wife of a senator, what that job does to the men elected to it.

MCCAIN: I would challenge anybody who has a question about his age to come travel with us for a day, on the campaign, because I have to pull off sometimes. He's too much for me. This is about experience. This is a man, who not only has experience, but has the, the, the compass that his life's skills and his life experiences have given him.

CURRY: Can't take away the numbers. 71?

And that's only mentioning the major networks, to say nothing of the parade of questioners on MSNBC and CNN. It was enough of an issue that Meghan McCain is now asking the media why there's been such a double standard for her father vs. Hillary up to this point.

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She released her doctors letter and she's not obligated to do more.

A doctor's note from last year. Has nothing changed since then? Has a year of campaigning done nothing negative to her health wise?

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There were animal protesters under the stage causing a ruckus. Right after you can even hear her say something like "you should be protesting with Trump", or some other dumb thing like that.

Good to know that a handful of rowdy PETA-style protesters rattle Hillary enough that she needs one of her medical staff members to rush up to the stage, reassure her and tell her 'you're all right, keep talking, you can handle it, keep talking, keep talking' before she can continue on. Petit Mal/Absence seizures can look exactly like she did - a period of stillness that lasts just a few seconds followed by a sudden return to normalcy once the seizure ends. The 'snap' and deep breath at 0:15 is very common at the end of absence seizures:

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It might be a seizure - it might not. But it doesn't look like normal behavior from a perfectly healthy 68 year old. It looks like the 4 year old in my Sunday School class who has these seizures and spaces out/snaps back to reality in just about the exact way Hillary does in that video.


Also, Clinton's doctor released this statement a little while ago:

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"Secretary Clinton has been experiencing a cough related to allergies. On Friday, during follow up evaluation of her prolonged cough, she was diagnosed with pneumonia. She was put on antibiotics, and advised to rest and modify her schedule. While at this morning's event, she became overheated and dehydrated. I have just examined her and she is now re-hydrated and recovering nicely.

Well we've gone from "Questions about her health are what evil kooky Alt-Right people would say, she is in the prime of her life" to "OK actually she has a prolonged cough that led to pneumonia and got overheated and dehydrated standing for short periods of time outside in sub-80 degree weather, but hey, remember when she opened that jar of pickles?"
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-11 16:56:49
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Hillary Insulted Me! Hillary is Arrogant Pathological Liar! Judge Jeanine Opening Statement 9/10/16
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-11 16:57:56
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70 year old woman with a hectic schedule, but somehow getting sick is outrageous.

Lung virus is not Alzheimer's.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-09-11 16:59:47
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How can people watch Jeanine Pirro? She's horrible

It's not even a conservative/liberal thing, she's just absolutely terrible to watch
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 17:07:01
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The last time she had a cold/the flu back in 2012, it led to her getting dehydrated, fainting, suffering a concussion and blood clots that led to a stint in the hospital and months out of the public eye before she re-emerged wearing Fresnel prism glasses and taking blood thinners that she continues to take to this day according to her 2015 doctor's note.

For a former First Lady and Secretary of State who has access to the best care on the planet she sure seems to get dehydrated and disoriented a lot whenever she gets sick.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-11 17:18:59
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
How can people watch Jeanine Pirro? She's horrible

It's not even a conservative/liberal thing, she's just absolutely terrible to watch

hey watch it that's my supreme court justice nominee your speaking about or potential attorney general who would Indict Hillary Clinton and both of these treasonous political party organizations.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 17:19:20
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David Shuster of NBC first tweeted:

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Dem operatives: @HillaryClinton can NOT campaign with pneumonia, expect emergency DNC meeting in days to pick replacement. #HillarysHealth
5:54 PM - 11 Sep 2016

That tweet was deleted and replaced by:

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David Shuster ✔ @DavidShuster
Clarification from dem operatives @HillaryClinton pneumonia: Expect emergency DNC meeting to CONSIDER replacement. #HillarysHealth
6:08 PM - 11 Sep 2016

If he's anywhere near correct and there are DNC people even considering Hillary dropping out, this is Actually A Thing. They know a hell of a lot more privately than we do as Internet Detectives/Doctors/Whatevers - if this is just a big nothing, that conversation never takes place.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-11 17:25:14
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If Bidet took Clinton's place it would be better anyway. I mean the best would be if Sanders came back, but he was cut out of the party so that's already a lost chance for America.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-11 17:30:00
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Bidet

Welp, looks like I've got a new name for Biden.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 17:34:02
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Man this has been an interesting 12 hours

"Hillary left the memorial unexpectedly and her campaign is holding the press, telling them not to film and not explaining what's going on, but that's only because there's nothing going on. She's fine!"

"She didn't fall! Conspiracy theory!"

"OK, she fell, but that was just heatstroke. Can happen to anyone!"

"See, she's fine! She walked to a van! She even hugged a child that ran to her and clearly wasn't a scripted optic!"

"OK, maybe she has a persistent cough and pneumonia, but everyone gets a little sniffle now and then! Just shows she's human! #ImWithHer!"

"She's not going on her scheduled trip to California tomorrow? Good! Get your rest and we'll all be #StrongerTogether!"

"You know, I'd be totes OK with Biden or Kaine or Bernie stepping in for her. Could actually end up being a positive!"

I'm also very glad that the lady diagnosed with pneumonia and told to rest and modify her schedule decided to ignore that advice and come in close contact with thousands of people while infectious, including that little girl she hugged as she made her way to the car.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-11 17:34:55
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
If Bidet took Clinton's place it would be better anyway. I mean the best would be if Sanders came back, but he was cut out of the party so that's already a lost chance for America.

Joe Biden is just as bad if not worse than Hillary Clinton. He is the vice president of Obama and has also co-signed off on numerous war crimes across the world and has his fingers and family involved with the coup in Ukraine and their banking institutions ripping off the Ukrainian people. If he does get picked at a democratic nominee to fill in for the party he will not win.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-11 17:45:33
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Perfectly reasonable statement explaining today's events. Better crank up the intensity on the faux outrage machine.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-11 17:51:13
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Perfectly reasonable statement explaining today's events. Better crank up the intensity on the faux outrage machine.

Outrage machine ? more like a national celebration of participating and witnessing the fall of the establishment Democrat and Republican political party organizations. This is just the beginning of a better America and a more peaceful world that will see less intervention from America.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-09-11 17:52:57
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Better crank up the intensity on the faux outrage machine.

Why? Did Trump sneeze again?
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 17:57:04
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Perfectly reasonable statement explaining today's events. Better crank up the intensity on the faux outrage machine.

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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-11 18:03:09
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Let’s talk about the real war on women. One of the biggest supporters of the oppression of women around the world seems to be Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Global Initiative.



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United Arab Emirates – systematic torture and the forced labor of migrant workers are what this country have become best known for, and the UAE contributed between $1-5 million to Hillary Clinton’s foundation.

Saudi Arabia – a nation operating under Sharia Law (with its terrible treatment of women) with an estimated 30,000 political prisoners has contributed $10-25 million to the foundation since its inception.

It is sad that one of the biggest “advocates” of women's rights around the world is accepting money from countries and people who have committed such egregious actions against women. Way to set the example Hillary! She seems to care as much about the truth as much as she cares about women’s rights.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 18:05:36
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-11 18:05:52
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
but he was cut out of the party
He was kinda never in it, he was an Independent running on the Democrat ticket as a Democrat. I think he actually left.

To him, the DNC was just a PUG.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-09-11 18:06:25
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That said, I would have preferred him; less legal baggage.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 18:54:19
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If Hillary was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday and still decided to be out among thousands of people the last few days at her fundraisers and events, that leads to one of two conclusions:

- She has bacterial or viral pneumonia (both of which are highly contagious) and she would rather risk infecting everyone who was near her over the weekend. If so, either she or her people didn't care about that and decided that her presence was more important than potentially spreading her pneumonia

OR

- She has aspiration pneumonia, which is not airborne contagious. This is a pneumonia you catch when food or liquids/saliva go down the wrong pipe and settle in the bottom of your lungs. People with dysphagia and Parkinson's Disease can catch this easily, and it is a very common killer for people with those problems. That's why there's a 'thickened foods' section in most pharmacies - you can get thickened water, soup, all types of things that assist in swallowing properly. If she had this type of pneumonia, she would have been safe from infecting others, but still probably should have stayed at home and recovered instead of keeping to her schedule.
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Jadey said: »
thickened water
This sounds disgusting yet amazing.
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By Jadey 2016-09-11 19:11:12
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Jadey said: »
thickened water
This sounds disgusting yet amazing.

They make it in three consistencies - nectar, honey, and pudding. They flow and act exactly as you'd expect those descriptions. You can also just buy the thickener and make it as thick as you need.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-11 19:25:34
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When I had pneumonia, they specifically told me not to go outside because the meds made more susceptible to damage from the sun. They also said I was the only person to walk into their clinic that day that was actually sick. But hey, that was a hilarious backread guys, great fake outrage.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2016-09-11 19:33:32
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Perfectly reasonable statement explaining today's events. Better crank up the intensity on the faux outrage machine.

It's comical how delusional you are just to defend a failed candidate.

She's got Parkinson's, pretty obvious. Oh, and Pneumonia is the number 1 killer of people with Parkinson's Disease. I hope she can take care of herself but I do NOT want her running our country under that condition. I'm no Trumpeteer, but I'm exhausted from Hillary's incessant lying. It's getting ridiculous at this point.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 19:34:46
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So... Worse case scenario she gets elected gets sick and then Bill is de facto president like Edith Bolling was 100yrs prior?
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Jadey said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Jadey said: »
thickened water
This sounds disgusting yet amazing.

They make it in three consistencies - nectar, honey, and pudding. They flow and act exactly as you'd expect those descriptions. You can also just buy the thickener and make it as thick as you need.
I seriously want water pudding.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-11 19:38:32
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Fried water and rain drop cake are also things
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