Hillary Clinton 2016 Presidential Thread

Trying not to get reported too many times for being off topic, but my being a very strong proponent for NASA and the space program tends to encompass a wide variety of scientific, cultural, and national elements so it's hard to do a "TL;DR" version.

Short version: you're right.

Slightly longer version, but trying to TL;DR:

In NASA you have an organization that has almost always innovated for great cost effectiveness and while doing so has proved to be a source of national bonding and pride. They're as much a symbol as they are a productive entity and I think they do both remarkably well, all things considered. There have been tragedies and mistakes along the way, but that is life. That is the cost of progress. Much like soldiers (some of the, in fact, were military men and women), no one who has ever signed up for the space program has done so not knowing their chances of premature death increase drastically. You're aiming yourself at space sitting on what is literally a giant explosive device. You're Wile E. Coyote'ing yourself to the stairs. They do so knowing all the positives that come with it for themselves and their nation. In my eyes every member of the space program that has perished is a hero on par with the finest of wartime heroes; they've given their lives in the name of the advancement of their country and the human race as a whole.

And again, all on a budget that is shamed by that of many less productive government investments (and I'll leave it to you to pick and choose which you think are worthwhile and not, that's a different discussion.)

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Would they have? Would it be a long any similar kind of timeline? Fact is that there are certain people that have significantly changed the world with their ideas and actions... There isn't always a substitute and in some cases you might wait another year or hundred years to be developed... It could change the entire development of a nation and the world... What if a bomb hadn't been invented when it was? What if it had been invented by the Japanese instead? Waiting months or another year or ten years can have a significant impact...

Regardless of any of that history is set in stone and it's already taken place... You can objectively look back and see who did what and look at the effects it had on individuals and societies... Saying oh well you know someone else would have thought of it eventually is just silly and completely disregards a persons or group of people contributions to something... Plus it's completely irrelevant as the past is the past and it won't change...

That type of ideology is based on hindsight. It is also impossible to prove. Saying it is naive to think that inventions would not exist if certain inventors invented them isn't to far from being a naive statement itself.


The possibility is definitely there but saying it would have happened for certain is based off of hindsight.


Even then though the invention may not have the same name or function the same so the statement "If "Name" didn't invent "Invention" we wouldn't have "invention" is true in every sense.

STARS. STARS, GOD DAMMIT YOU STUPID FINGERS AHHHH LET ME EDIT.

You're trying too hard to fight me on this. Of course the inventions might have had different names or slightly different functions. That is far from the point, though.

Alexander Graham Bell? Beat his opponent to patent the telephone by two hours. Thomas Edison and the light bulb? Pfft, multiple people had been developing the idea for decades. He just managed to pull off a longer-burning one before winning the race to the patent office. How about television? So many people had worked on making television a reality that nobody can seem to agree who the actual inventor was.

I was voicing my annoyance with Candlejack's statement because people make claims that we would be without certain life-changing technologies if so-and-so hadn't thought of them decades/centuries/millennia ago, when in many cases that simply isn't true. Necessity is the mother of invention.

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Seriously off topic.

Welcome to Decision 2016.

What was the topic again ? Oh yea Hillary bad Trump good.

not unlike kyle's mom, Hillary Clinton is a big fat ***!

This song was very popular among my friends the summer South Park really caught on. (I wanna say it was like 98?)

One of the goals of Clinton’s campaign, Reynolds says, is to ensure Breitbart is destroyed.

Now that that's cleared up, how's everyone's day?

This thread isn't locked yet?

Hilary: Now I wanna let everyone know what i carry in my purse :D Two things I always have in it, and hot sauce is one of them. :D

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Yeah, she's intelligent...
Hilary for Prison :D

Great minds think alike !

Only a Hillary Clinton supporter or Clinton foundation member would say that and or course Obama, and Attorney general Lynch

Hillary Clinton in Black History


The Democrat President Lyndon Johnson who replaced Kennedy after his assassination helped further the Welfare State. We have to understand the truth that is not being told any longer. The following quotes are LBJ quotes:

“I’ll have those *** voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

He achieved the impossible after the passing of the Civil Rights Act 1964, the Voting Rights Act 1965 and the Great Society programs. After that Blacks became solid supporters of the Democratic Party.

(A piece of irony is that Democrats got the credit for passing the Civil Rights Act 1964 because LBJ opposed the Eisenhower Civil Rights Act 1957 in its original form. Otherwise, Republicans would have gotten the credit.)

Saw a good tolerable bumper sticker the other day (I still think you're an idiot if you put a bumper sticker on a car):

"Johnson 2016: Make America Sane Again!"

Not sure I 100% agree with the veracity of the statement, but it was funny either way.

Yet another murder by the ruthless Clinton machine no doubt.

Someone tried to climb up the Ecuador Embassy - where Julian Assange is, likely attempt to kill him or steal his devices.

You sure this doesn't belong in P&R, maybe with a link?

Random P&R***

Given Wikileaks being behind the DNC leaks very recently, I think this is relevent to Hillary as President.