Ramyrez said:
Well, again. We're talking corporations here. I don't see a need for unions in small businesses. Kansas is just apparently ***.
Let's put it this way: if you're big enough that you need to have human resources personnel, you've grown to the point where you probably should have collective bargaining.
Again, even with non-union large/small corporations (with or without human resources personnel), wages are not negotiated between lawyers. Hell, lawyers aren't even part of the equation.
A budget is drawn, given to the department head, who then gives it to the individual section managers who then gets with their shift managers who individually talks to the employees about what raise, if any, they are getting. Generally speaking, it's predetermined, but in some cases, especially in cases where retention is an issue, it's negotiated.
Almost the same thing with union jobs, except there's the extra layer of lawyers for the company and lawyers of the union gathering together to determine wages for the workers. The predetermined wage increase is uniform with everyone, and those who actually try to work in the company, those that actually put in the effort, are essentially screwed because they are rewarded the same level as those who are wasted space. How exactly is that fair again?
What really hurts companies is when the budget doesn't match or even come close to what the union demands. And if the union doesn't get what they want, there will always be a strike, which hurts the company even more. Now, the company cannot make any profit because the unions demand too much, or shut down the company until they get what they want, and if a company cannot make any money, they will die and vanish. Then where does that leave the employees?
Ramyrez said:
That said, they also shouldn't be doing this ***in the first place, because what kind of shitbags are knowingly endangering people for a profit?
You cannot take an individual case and apply it to everyone. There are not even 1% of 1% of 1% of 1% of companies out there who are like this. Companies like this would have died from these business practices, it just died a little quicker because of the mining accident.
That company is doomed already.