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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2016-06-25 17:48:05
Depending on which dictator "we" elect next year to replace Grollande, we may actually listen to Italy.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-25 17:48:12
Hillary is really a Brazilian born Nazi clone of a feminized Hitler. Hmm.
This makes sense.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2016-06-25 17:49:09
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »Also, how come we can't edit posts anymore? Rooks saw that people would edit in mass amounts of stuff after posting something, rereading it, then thinking "I'll sound stupid if I don't put a wall of *** under that, explaining why Hillary is really a Brazilian born Nazi clone of a feminized Hitler." So he disabled it in P&R. Oh, it makes sense, we were all doing that indeed.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-25 17:49:55
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »Depending on which dictator "we" elect next year to replace Grollande, we may actually listen to Italy. Le Pen is on the table.
This joke is amazing I don't care what you say, don't judge me!
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-06-25 17:50:39
Hillary is really a Brazilian born Nazi clone of a feminized Hitler. Hmm.
This makes sense. I know someone in P&R is gonna have their mind blown when they read that, like "Oh my god, It's true!" I just "woke" someone out there.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-25 17:53:15
Hillary is really a Brazilian born Nazi clone of a feminized Hitler. Hmm.
This makes sense. I know someone in P&R is gonna have their mind blown when they read that, like "Oh my god, It's true!" I just "woke" someone out there. We've also spoken about Lizard people today too.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2016-06-25 17:53:47
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »Depending on which dictator "we" elect next year to replace Grollande, we may actually listen to Italy. Le Pen is on the table.
This joke is amazing I don't care what you say, don't judge me! Bready good.
She may pass where I live but not nationally. Juppé and Sarkozy are too big for her.
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By Sylph.Frenchman 2016-06-25 18:23:37
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »Depending on which dictator "we" elect next year to replace Grollande, we may actually listen to Italy. Le Pen is on the table.
This joke is amazing I don't care what you say, don't judge me! Bready good.
She may pass where I live but not nationally. Juppé and Sarkozy are too big for her.
Wow this Joke is a killer, i'll have to use it on some friends (all ™ to you Seha ofc!)
As to Le Pen, yeah, she probably won't pass, she'll get to 2nd turn eventually, but it'll be like in 2002, people would mass vote the other guy/woman.
At least i hope
Brb, packing a bag, just in case.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2016-06-25 18:49:54
I'm just hoping for some Mélenchon action. I'll most likely exile myself to Germany before the elections anyway.
Working in this country has become a bad idea, no matter what government is in place.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-06-25 19:19:22
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36626553
Quote: The mayor of Calais wants changes to a deal which allows Britain to carry out immigration checks on the French side of the English Channel, after a UK vote to leave the EU.
Natacha Bouchart said Paris must act after Thursday's referendum in which the UK voted to leave the EU.
"The British must take the consequences of their choice," she said on Friday.
Under the 2003 Touquet deal, Britain can carry out check in Calais to stop migrants trying to get to Britain.
Ms Bouchart said: "We are in a strong position to push, to press this request for a review and we are asking the President (Francois Hollande) to bring his weight (to the issue).
"We must put everything on the table and there must be an element of division, of sharing."
Meanwhile, Xavier Bertrand, the president of Hauts-de-France region where Calais is located, said: "The English wanted to take back their freedom: they must take back their border."
The French authorities had warned before the referendum that a vote for leaving the EU could see a camp with thousands of migrants being moved from Calais to British soil.
The British authorities have made no public comments on the issue. So the French want to force their immigrants on us illegally now? After making no real attempt at stopping them from coming here in the first place? Nope sorry, they're the EU's problem now, not ours.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-25 19:25:55
Hilary Benn sacked from shadow cabinet
Quote: Shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn has been sacked from the shadow cabinet by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.
The Labour leader is facing a no confidence vote over his "lacklustre" campaign for a remain vote.
Newspaper reports suggested Mr Benn had been encouraging shadow ministers to resign if Mr Corbyn ignored the motion of no confidence.
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said Mr Corbyn "worked himself to the ground" during the four-month campaign.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2016-06-25 19:34:21
Hilary Benn sacked from shadow cabinet
Quote: Shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn has been sacked from the shadow cabinet by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.
The Labour leader is facing a no confidence vote over his "lacklustre" campaign for a remain vote.
Newspaper reports suggested Mr Benn had been encouraging shadow ministers to resign if Mr Corbyn ignored the motion of no confidence.
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell said Mr Corbyn "worked himself to the ground" during the four-month campaign. About time, Benn was just a red Tory.
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-06-25 20:32:39
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-06-25 20:41:41
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By Ackeron 2016-06-25 21:10:32
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2016-06-25 21:28:05
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36626553
Quote: The mayor of Calais wants changes to a deal which allows Britain to carry out immigration checks on the French side of the English Channel, after a UK vote to leave the EU.
Natacha Bouchart said Paris must act after Thursday's referendum in which the UK voted to leave the EU.
"The British must take the consequences of their choice," she said on Friday.
Under the 2003 Touquet deal, Britain can carry out check in Calais to stop migrants trying to get to Britain.
Ms Bouchart said: "We are in a strong position to push, to press this request for a review and we are asking the President (Francois Hollande) to bring his weight (to the issue).
"We must put everything on the table and there must be an element of division, of sharing."
Meanwhile, Xavier Bertrand, the president of Hauts-de-France region where Calais is located, said: "The English wanted to take back their freedom: they must take back their border."
The French authorities had warned before the referendum that a vote for leaving the EU could see a camp with thousands of migrants being moved from Calais to British soil.
The British authorities have made no public comments on the issue. So the French want to force their immigrants on us illegally now? After making no real attempt at stopping them from coming here in the first place? Nope sorry, they're the EU's problem now, not ours. Actually, no.
People want to go to the UK and EU countries served as a filter. They were stopped before even reaching France. EU countries aren't really attractive to people who seek a dream life. UK is like a little USA in that regard.
Immigrants were heavily stopped/filtered in Calais but since you guys are giving us the finger, we don't really have a reason to filter/stop them anymore.
So instead, you'll have to hoard them around yourselves. On the bright side, it will lower their chances of dying in the tunnel, at least I hope so.
Thinking before voting was the thing to do.
That being said, I've read two contradicting things about this topic: one newspaper said that Hollande announced that he'd keep the filter in France, another said the opposite.
The only thing for sure is that UK has a land border on French soil and that given their middle finger, we're in our right to remove said border and force UK to have it on their soil instead.
This will at the very least make life more bearable for the French citizens in the North.
I'm kinda neutral even thought I find it funny to have UK deal with their immigrants rather than us dealing with them for people who are ungrateful toward us.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-25 21:47:38
If the assumptions is that more homoesexual/transgender/bisexual/pansexual or feminin men would be easier to govern than traditional hetrosexual masculin men - oh man have I got a wake up call for you. To quote Mil
Milamber said: What the hell are you even talking about? Kara there in no denying that our environment is awash in estrogen mimicking products. Some attribute this for the rise in homosexual/transgender/bisexual/pan-sexual or feminine men. A further subset believes this a deliberate ploy on the part of multinational corporations to keep wages down.
As in we girls, and therefore girlish boys, are cheaper and will work harder for less rewards.
Like conspiracy theory level.
Mind you I have been wondering how I could sell this to the broad spectrum unwashed American Christians and make bank off it.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-26 01:02:31
Asura.Beatsbytaru said: »Asura.Beatsbytaru said: »To me this is a great day for the people. *** the machine, power to the people. Burn this mfucka down.
A lot of what founded the EU was to stop world wars from happening which I definitely support. Millions and millions of people slaughtering each other on a world scale excluding very few countries is generally a bad thing. I understand sovereignty and identity is important but if brexit can happen then Xexit may also be possible? More walls, more blaming migrates, less communication, and extreme nationalistic leaders feeding on the fears of people helped fuel WWII.
I hope for stabilization and communication. Because literally "Burn this mfucka down" is unfortunately what happened to REAL people. MILLIONS of real people. I think you're confusing the EU with NATO and really don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, you have no idea of what you are talking about.
The EU was created to encourage economic interdependence which was theorized would prevent future wars.
Quote: A peaceful Europe – the beginnings of cooperation
The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. I think you should slow down and determine the difference between a main goal and the byproduct of reaching that goal. You should read the page I linked.
This has always been the main objective.
Schuman Declaration 1950
Quote: It is no longer a question of vain words but of a bold act, a constructive act. France has acted and the consequences of its action can be immense. We hope they will be. France has acted primarily for peace and to give peace a real chance.
For this it is necessary that Europe should exist. Five years, almost to the day, after the unconditional surrender of Germany, France is accomplishing the first decisive act for European construction and is associating Germany with this. Conditions in Europe are going to be entirely changed because of it. This transformation will facilitate other action which has been impossible until this day.
World peace cannot be safeguarded if constructive efforts are not made commensurate with the dangers that threaten it. An organized and revitalized Europe can make a contribution to civilization which is indispensable for maintaining such peaceful relations. France has always held the cause of peace as her main aim in taking upon herself the role for more than twenty years of championing a united Europe. That European task was not achieved and we had war.
Europe will not be made at once, nor according to a single master plan of construction. It will be built by concrete achievements, which create de facto dependence, mutual interests and the desire for common action.
The gathering of the nations of Europe demands the elimination of the age-old antagonism of France and Germany. The first concern of any action undertaken must involve these two countries.
With this objective in mind, the French government proposes to direct its action on one limited but decisive point:
The French government proposes to place Franco-German production of coal and steel under one common High Authority in an organisation open to the participation of other countries of Europe.
The pooling of coal and steel production will immediately assure the establishment of common bases for economic development as a first step for the European Federation. It will change the destiny of regions that have long been devoted to manufacturing munitions of war, of which they have been most constantly the victims.
This merging of our interests in coal and steel production and our joint action will make it plain that any war between France and Germany becomes not only unthinkable but materially impossible. The establishment of this powerful unity for production, open to all countries willing to take part, and eventually capable of providing all the member countries with the basic elements of industrial production on the same terms, will cast the real foundation for their economic unification.
This production would be offered to the world as a whole, without distinction or exception, with the aim of raising living standards and promoting peace as well as fulfilling one of Europe’s essential tasks — the development of the African continent.
In this way, simply and speedily, the fusion of interests which is vital for the establishment of a common economic system will be realized. Thus the leaven will be introduced which will permeate and build a wider and deeper community between countries that had continually opposed each other in bloody divisions.
By pooling basic industrial production and setting-up a new High Authority whose decisions will be binding on France, Germany and other member countries, these proposals will bring to reality the first solid groundwork for a European Federation vital to the preservation of world peace.
In order to further the realisation of the objectives it has thus defined, the French Government is ready to open negotiations on the following basis:
The High Authority would be charged with the mission of assuring in the briefest delay the modernization of production and the improvement of its quality; the supply of coal and steel on identical terms to French and German markets and those of other member countries; the development of common exports to other countries; and the equalization of improvement in the living conditions of workers in these industries.
In order to attain these goals starting from the very varied conditions in which the production of the member countries are situated, transitory measures should be instituted such as a production and investment plan, compensating mechanisms for the equalization of prices, and a restructuring fund to facilitate the rationalisation of production. The movement of coal and steel between member states will immediately be freed of all customs duties and it will not be permitted for it to be constrained by differential transport rates. Conditions will be progressively created which will spontaneously assure the most rational distribution of production at the highest level of productivity.
In contrast to an international cartel which aims at dividing and exploiting national markets by restrictive practices in order to maintain high profit margins, the proposed organization will assure the merger of markets and the expansion of production.
The principles and fundamental commitments defined above will be the subject of a treaty signed between the states. The negotiations necessary to define the measures to be applied will be undertaken with the help of an arbitrator, designated by common agreement. The latter will charged to ensure that the agreements are in line with the principles and, in the case of unresolvable differences, will determine the solution to be adopted. The joint High Authority, responsible for the functioning of the whole regime, will be composed of independent personalities designated on an equal basis by the governments. A President will be chosen by common accord of the governments. His decisions will be binding on France, Germany and the other member countries. Appropriate measures will assure the means of appeal necessary against the decisions of the High Authority. A representative of the United Nations to the High Authority will be charged to make a public report twice a year to the United Nations Organisation, reporting on the functioning of the new body, in particular about the safeguarding of its peaceful objectives.
The institution of the High Authority does not prejudice in any way the ownership of enterprises. In the furtherance of its mission, the joint High Authority will take into account the powers conferred on the International Authority for the Ruhr and the obligations of all types imposed on Germany as long as they continue."
Europe will be born from this, a Europe which is solidly united and constructed around a strong framework. It will be a Europe where the standard of living will rise by grouping together production and expanding markets, thus encouraging the lowering of prices.
In this Europe, the Ruhr, the Saar and the French industrial basins will work together for common goals and their progress will be followed by observers from the United Nations. All Europeans without distinction, whether from east or west, and all the overseas territories, especially Africa, which awaits development and prosperity from this old continent, will gain benefits from their labour of peace.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-26 06:42:26
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-26 07:07:12
Yes, i completely agree with her too. She doesn't have any obligation to allow the bill for us to leave to pass, as that's not what the Scottish people want.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-06-26 07:10:10
It's already been said previously but Scotlands main reason for voting to remain part of the UK in their referendum was because we were a part of the EU. Now that we voted to leave the EU they have every right be to upset.
That's sort of like talking your neighbour out of selling their house because you`ll miss them too much, and then moving yourself a week later.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2016-06-26 08:15:14
Well my friend said this would happen and therefore Brexit would not happen.
Thank *** if so.
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2016-06-26 09:14:49
I voted to remain and am I happy with the outcome? No I'm not I believe political views and grudges clouded a lot of people's judgments around where I live (in the north). We got hit by the biggest cuts this time around and most hated the government up here and wanted change.
That being said I actually want to slap Sturgeon as what's done is done and it was the country that voted for it not politicians. She can live with the result like the rest of us that voted remain.
Nicola Sturgeon knew that an EU referendum was coming and she still made a point of holding their independence referendum before the EU one. It was most likely a ploy that if she didn't get her way the first time and the Scottish wanted to stay in the UK and be a part of the EU she would get her way after if the UK voted leave. No way can Scotland be independent if they weren't a part of the EU especially with the drop in oil prices.
They get too much stuff for free from the British government which I assume they fully take for granted. Health care and University educations are the two biggest things they get for free there's also a lot less taxes up there. All of which would need to stopped one way or another if they left the UK. She should know this yet she still wants and is trying to push for an Independent Scotland. They wouldn't be able to afford NHS costs if everything was free. Atm in England if you are over 18 and in work you have to pay for any medications you receive it's the same with dentists too.
Do I want Scotland to leave the UK? Yes I do as like I've outlined above it will be a huge saving over time and I'd imagine in the years to come we will need all the money we can get till the British economy stabilises after we officially leave the EU.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-06-26 10:58:14
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-26 11:11:05
Yeah! Old people shouldn't even be allowed to vote!
Senile old ***!
Kill everyone over 30!
By fonewear 2016-06-26 12:06:54
Yeah! Old people shouldn't even be allowed to vote!
Senile old ***!
Kill everyone over 30!
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-06-26 13:31:25
Somebody found this on the guardian website. ALthough i don't 100% agree to it all. It is a very well said, and well thought out.
Also consider after reading. That Nigel Farage has also been very hush hush since too.
Enjoy your read
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2016-06-26 14:29:50
Well it does speak truth and after being in a large free market for so long it was obvious what was going to happen on results day if leave won. I would have thought they would have gone through all the scenarios before they said we would have a referendum. They should have seen how much work they would need to put in before now surely.
Oh god. It actually happened...
WTF now?!
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