Random Politics & Religion #03

Yeah they served an unsafe batch of food and they too a huge hit to their sales.

Just imagine if they did it again.

Islamic State and the Assad regime in Syria have been colluding with each other in deals on the battleground, Sky News can reveal.

Our exclusive investigation into leaked secret IS files suggests one piece of co-operation was over the ancient city of Palmyra.

The files also show that the militant group has been training foreign fighters to attack Western targets for much longer than security services had suspected.

The revelations underscore fears in the United States that a network of sleeper cells is spread across Europe, avoiding detection, and is planning further Paris- and Brussels-style assaults.

IS defectors, meanwhile, have told Sky News that Palmyra was handed back to government forces by Islamic State as part of a series of cooperation agreements going back years.

New letters obtained by Sky News, in addition to the massive haul of 22,000 files handed over last month, appear to confirm this.

They show:

:: An agreement with the Syrian regime to withdraw IS weapons from Palmyra.

:: A deal between IS and Syria to trade oil for fertiliser and;

:: Arrangements to evacuate some areas by Islamic State forces BEFORE the Syrian army attacked.

All appear to be pre-agreed deals and suggest direct evidence of collusion between the Syrian regime and Islamic State chiefs.

For the past 18 months Sky News has maintained contacts with a Free Syrian Army group originally from Islamic State's headquarters in Raqqa, but now living across the border in Turkey.

The group operates a network to smuggle defectors away from IS.

Some of the defectors openly admit their prior allegiance to the terror group and acknowledge that they only left because of internal disagreements with some of the IS leadership.

In reality they remain wedded to the basic tenets of Islamic State: strict Sharia law, a caliphate and on-going war against anyone deemed to be an enemy.

The authenticity of the latest documents is impossible to verify, but all previous leaks of material funnelled through this group have proved to be genuine.

The new documents are copies of handwritten orders sent from Islamic State's headquarters.

One document requests safe passage for a driver through IS checkpoints "until he reaches the border with the Syrian regime to exchange oil for fertiliser".

The defectors claim that this is a trade agreement between the two sides that has been going on for years.

Another letter contains instructions for a commander to "transfer all equipment and weapons to the agreed evacuation point. We have received intelligence that al Qasr and its surroundings will be bombed on 24th November, 2013".

The defectors claim this was a withdrawal agreed between Syria and Islamic State.

The most interesting document was written shortly before the Syrian army recaptured the ancient city of Palmyra, after months of occupation by IS.

"Withdraw all heavy artillery and anti-aircraft machine guns from in and around Palmyra to Raqqa province," the document says.

I asked one of the defectors if Islamic State was coordinating movement of its fighters and leaving areas they previously controlled, in direct coordination with the Syrian army and even the Russian airforce.

His answer was simple. "Of course," he said.

Terror experts asked to analyse the documents say they show this is arguably the most complicated war they have ever tried to make sense of.

"This is a war of perception and narrative and everyone is trying to manipulate events," said Dr Afzal Ashraf from the think tank Royal United Services Institute.

"It may take 20 years before what we know exactly what is going on," he added. "Almost certainly there will be some sort of communication going on between mortal enemies, and that is for short term tactical gains and losses.

"Certainly if there is economic trading going on, which we know there is, there would be communication."

But defectors and civilians contacted by Sky News over many months all maintain there is not just communication but widespread collusion between the various warring factions, as well as the Syrian and Iraqi governments.

The United States has been particularly exasperated at air assaults by Syria’s ally Russia on groups the Americans have helped fund and train.

Any evidence there is collusion with America's number one target, Islamic State, will test relations between the US and Russia even more.

Our analysis of all the Islamic State files has revealed the organisation needs to maintain its caliphate in part to give it the room to train foreign jihadists to carry out attacks in Europe and further afield.

Al Qaeda needed first Sudan, and then Afghanistan, for exactly the same purpose. In doing so, it co-opted failed and ungoverned areas to use for its own training and development.

What the files reveal is that IS’s training programme and exporting of terror has not just been going on for months, but for years - for much longer than Western security services were aware of.

Indeed, they suggest that a programme of coordinated attacks on Western countries was one of the original building blocks of Islamic State.

Some of the documents, also from Islamic State's headquarters, are orders for a terrorist cell travelling out of Syria and dated November 2014.

They request fighters divide into groups of four as part of an operation codenamed "Break the siege".

The operation involved travelling over the Syrian border and deploying to "Infidel countries".

Another set of papers, dated a month later, confirm the groups have reached their "Specialised Areas".

One defector Sky News spoke to said Europe is the target of "Break the siege".

The order is addressed to Abu Mohammed al Shamali. His name appears in our files nearly 400 times and he is often linked to jihadists from northern Europe. The United States has put a $5m bounty on his head.

Islamic State wants to maintain and expand its caliphate across historical Muslim lands while attacking and provoking a war with the West, and dividing societies.

It is a long term plan, the details of which we are only just learning.

Or, as a first world nation, we could have public safety policies that don't boil down to "hey y'all, anyone get the shits from this place lately?"

I'm no fan of government regulation, but food safety is not the hill to die on.

All that was asked was was there any regulation that actually brought a business customers

That's the straw man.

How many customers does the FDA generate businesses guiz? I bet you can't answer that!
None because its sole purpose is consumer protection.

Why are you +20ing and /threading over something that is absolutely dumb?

It's actually in the negative for costumer creation.

It's a strawman convention!

Unrestrained, unregulated capitalism

Why are people making me defend bigger government?

Again, as Floppy said: regulations are not there to send Jimbob's Crawdad Shack more customers. They're there to make sure Jimbob's Crawdad Shack isn't poisoning you

I'd argue it's the fault of the well established multi-million/billion dollar companies ruthlessly crushing a majority of upstart attempts. But that just might be me.

At the very least, 60% of restaurant projects crash and burn within the first year.

How can nausi be right when he all he did was ask a question that was easily answered and dismissed? Every business has to follow health and safety regulations, else face the wrath of OSHA, as in, closure. Done, question answered.

It's actually in the negative for costumer creation.

Who here is going to buy meat that came from overseas? Oh wait. They are not required to label it now thanks to the FDA/USDA? Who here is going to buy meat that they don't know here it came from?

Well he did just pretty much say regulations don't make our food healthy.

I would love to see any counter to Upton Sinclair from Alti because literally none of any sound mind exist.

No one. But there's are plenty of places from around the world that do label their meat exports because it's high quality and they want credit for it.

Kobe Beef, for example, trumps American beef in nearly every way. Except in price.

I think we need to stop throwing the "strawman" phrase around, since nausi and altima clearly don't know what it means. Nausi incorrectly labeled a post a "strawman" and its been downhill from there.

During his debate with Bill O'Reilly, John Stewart called the alternate reality that people of a certain mind frame live; "*** Mountain".

I say this because there is one theme that constantly comes to mind when you post. So I will quote it:

But it's just the horrible food and safety regulations keeping them down.