Random Politics & Religion #02

Become a politician, Altima. That way all the people who do nothing but jab at you can technically be on topic.

I think I'll have Rooks change the title from "Random Politics & Religion" to "Random Bickering and Maybe Some Politics Too".

You're certainly not above it, though. You don't day a word when people are squealing, "But Pleebo, but Vic, but <insert whoever>".

i think a better title is, the "everyone is entitled to an opinion... if they agree with me" thread.

Oh no, I've been known to have my fair share of "us vs. them" pointless arguments. Sometimes it's just worth pointing out when it has become the rule rather than the exception. I get the feeling that if we were in the mansion in Beauty and the Beast, then we would end up as a bunch of pots and kettles.

I think we've all had our fair share of pointless arguments here, and probably ones that most of us a double-take and have wondered why we participated in the the first place in retrospect. Yes, we're probably a group of pot-kettlers. We're probably going to have to shuck quite a few notions of each other to really make the new rule revisions of P&R effective.

So, with that, I apologize specifically to you, and you alone, for drawing conclusions from some of the people on here you have shown support for, which might not be entirely a reflection on you, and their opinions on certain topics that you might not be completely in-line with or were ignorant of.

*backreads*

Ok, now I've been called many things(especially from Saevel), but I will not accept, EVER that someone might call me black!

To get back to politics:
Let's talk about the relationship between America and UK.

Obama is currently on his goodbye-tour and visited London (his 5th time) where he repeated his position against a Brexit.

His key arguments against a Brexit was that that UK would be put at the end of the queue for trade talks. Currently US and Europe negotiate TTIP and that will continue to get all the focus even after a Brexit.

To me it looks like the personal relationship between Obama and Cameron are pretty good. They had quite a few light-hearted events together.

So back to the theme I proposed: How does the broader political class view the other side, and what do the citizen think of each other? Would they call the others Family, Friends, allies, partners?

Tomorrow he will come to Germany, so another topic is secured.

But aren't we all black... on the inside?

'The Special Relationship' is a *** joke, a ponzy phrase used to score hollow political capital.

TTIP should be boycotted and is partially the reason the 'Brexit' campaign has grown to the extent it has, TTIP and it's other equivalents around the world (TPPA) as shady to say the least. The best things Britain has done in recent years were outright refusing to join the single currency and it's current move to divorce from the failed socialist experiment that is the EU. They can posture all they want but the other European nations need Britain more than Britain needs them, Germany aside as it is pretty much holding the experiment aloft by itself (for how much longer though). 'Brexit' campaigners know the importance of solidifying trade ties in a globalized world over local interests, going into what is effectively economic seclusion, in an open world is idiotic.

Obama and Cameron are alike in the vein that they are both pathetically weak leaders. Obama's inexperience has been made apparent by the Republicans walking roughshod over many of his plans and Cameron has managed to take his party from winning a majority at the last election to being about as popular as necrophiliac-porn-wranglers. Cameron had the benefit of making his coalition partners, the liberals, take the fall for many of his unpopular decisions but now that he has no shield he has been found out and has been found wanting. 'Light-hearted' events are basically photo opportunities, PR stunts that have little indication on the machinations of a working relationship.

Outside the political sphere I'd like to think that Britons and Americans get along somewhat well. Misconceptions are still abound though, on both sides, and they will likely never go away.

Obama will play coy with Merkel and the German government because he knows all-too-well that German taxpayers and politicians are the only things, now that Britain is edging closer and closer to an EU-zone exit, keeping the system alive. If the single currency falls, which it logically should, it throws the TTIP on the bonfire and that doesn't bode well for socialist/neo-liberal aspirations going forward.

They can't find jobs because there are none and it is too expensive to live there. They aren't fleeing from actual Democrats. I mean really?

They are fleeing the horrible and unlivable situations that their policies have created. I am in awe that this needed to be explained.

You must have missed his massive projection at the top of the page.

Talk about delusions...

Wait, you aren't a Fomor?

How so?

It's not an extreme interpretation of his post, he's from Michigan and is regurgitating the exact same racist rhetoric that is spoken there. You want to be an arbitrator of reason, then you must take into consideration certain key words reflect a particular outlook.

When we're not talking about the UAW or factories shutting down and taking the jobs out of the state of Michigan and out of the country and we're only focusing solely on Detroit and African American neighborhoods as the cause, you should probably realize whats really being said.

But then again "I don't want to be called a racist" doesn't seem to throw the same red flag that "I don't mean no disrespect" indicates something disrespectful is about to be or was said, for you now does it.

If you want to be taken seriously as someone who is reasonable learn how to identify racist rhetoric. Cause if you don't you just come off as biased and patronizing.

6th generation Michigander! You mean that Democrats are not to blame for the Massive decline of Michigan? You mean that to point out
is racist rhetoric?

I know full well people like you consider the facts to be racist, hence why I stopped short of posting what Saevel posted. (Damned if you do damn if you don't I guess.)

We need to? Do we really need to point out more Democrat failures? I mean.. I guess I am game, but I thought this was common knowledge. Especially from someone who.
Sucks when someone takes only one little part to quote huh? You sure sound pretty damn racist right there!



Except for I didn't say anything after that. You example is overstated and wrong.

HAHAHAHA You think YOU are reasonable? /thread

I didn't know General Motors was the democratic party.

So, I thought Obama was suppose to heal our relations with other countries that Bush supposedly destroyed?

Why are Britons and now Germans gathering to protest his arrival?


Americans do want the TTIP, The British don't want it, and now the Germans DON'T want it..

Why doesn't anybody in the entire world understand we have to pass it before we know whats in it!

I mean it worked so well before right? They should all get on board an stop being so ignorant right? Obama knows what is best for them/us!

You don't realize how true that statement actually is.

Philadelphia is the next to go bankrupt in a year or two. The Union pensions are a black hole bleeding the city dry.

Everyone likes the John oliver vids right? Right?

Here have some Crowder in Detroit.

-.-

Busy saying nothing as always huh. Thanks for stopping by!

Oh my god would you cut this crap please.