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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-07 19:45:50
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Editorials against Trump from republican leaning newapapers:

For First Time Since 1940, Texas Paper Endorses a Democrat for President
Clinton has experience and judgment to take on the task: 'Dallas Morning News'


Donald Trump’s gift to Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi deserves a closer look
Miami Herald

What the Herald doesn't mention ...

Trump Hosted Fundraiser for Florida AG After She Dropped Trump U Investigation
Slate

But this one has a kicker...
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Space at the resort is expensive to rent, and Trump has charged his own presidential campaign roughly $140,000 per event for use of the mansion.

In contrast, the Republican Party of Florida paid only $4,855.65 for the Bondi fundraiser, cutting a check on March 25, 2014.
Full story on the fundraiser:

Trump Held Fundraiser For Pam Bondi At His Palm Beach Mansion After She Passed On Lawsuit
The Republican Party of Florida paid much less for the venue than Trump’s own campaign has paid.

HuffPo (wouldn'tchaknowit?)
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-08 10:32:11
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Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
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Donald Trump gave what was nothing less than the worst performance of a nominee in modern political history. Trump confirmed that he knows nothing, and is proud of his ignorance.

Trump began by telling America that he was fit to be commander in chief because he is a business man. Trump once again praised his own judgment and lied about his opposition to the war in Iraq.

Lauer asked Trump if the country can afford to take the temperament risk on him. Trump brought up the Mexico trip and claimed that the firestorm his trip caused in Mexico was a victory.

Trump was asked about his claim that he knows more about ISIS than the generals, and he avoided the question. Lauer asked Trump if he lost faith in the military commanders. Trump did a song and dance about how trusts the military commanders, but he doesn’t trust Hillary Clinton.

A vet who is a Democrat asked Trump about his secret plan to defeat ISIS and asked what his plan for the region is. Trump repeated the question about how the US has invaded and never had a plan. Trump lied and claimed that Obama pulled out all of the troops, and that is how ISIS was formed. Trump repeated his babbling that the US should take the oil. Lauer asked how the oil would be taken, and Trump mumbled something about leaving people behind to take the oil.

Trump was asked what his plan is, and he rambled on while incoherently not mentioning a plan.

Trump was asked if an undocumented person who plans to serve in the armed forces should be allowed to stay in the country. Trump said that it would be a special circumstance, and they would be allowed to stay.

Listening to Trump speak, it was clear that the Republican nominee was making it up as he went along. Trump was asked a question about relations with Russia, and he touted Putin’s approval rating. Lauer asked Trump if he would accept a compliment from Putin, and Trump said that he would take the compliment when Putin called him brilliant. Trump praised Putin for being a leader and claimed that he is a better leader than Obama.

Trump was asked what his specific plan was to help veterans, and he claimed that Clinton said she was satisfied with how things are going at the VA. Trump went on to basically admit that his plan for the VA is privatization, while he said that he is opposed to privatization.

Trump was asked what his plan was to deal with the vet suicide epidemic, and he called the VA, which not five minutes before, he vowed not to privatize a corrupt enterprise.

Donald Trump stood by his 2013 tweet that blamed military rapes on the victims.

Lauer asked Trump what he was reading and how he was preparing to be commander in chief. Trump claimed that he is studying “a lot,” but then he talked about how busy he is and how many hats he is wearing. Trump claimed that he doesn’t need knowledge because he has “a common sense.”

If the CIC forum was the first commander in chief test Trump failed miserably. Donald Trump was unprepared, unknowledgeable, and he had no plan to address any of the issues that were posed to him.

Donald Trump gave the worst performance of a modern presidential nominee in any forum in the last thirty years. Trump confirmed everything that Democrats have been saying. He was unprepared, winging it, and the last person anyone should trust with the commander in chief responsibilities.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-08 12:50:10
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Given the tone the author is obviously anti-Trump.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-08 12:58:13
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In order to be unbiased you have to pretend that Trump knows what he's talking about?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-08 13:10:47
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Matt Lauer did an awful job moderating and he is catching hell for it from just about everyone. He just pampered Trump while trying to grill Hillary about the emails, letting Trump repeat lie after lie without fact checking him at all. Hopefully that is the last time we see him this year.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-09-08 13:41:59
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Matt Lauer did an awful job moderating and he is catching hell for it from just about everyone. He just pampered Trump while trying to grill Hillary about the emails, letting Trump repeat lie after lie without fact checking him at all. Hopefully that is the last time we see him this year.
It's a preview of what's to come from the debates. Fact checking is considered being impartial now instead of, you know, journalism.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-08 16:12:43
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Correcting your blunder...

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Fact checking is considered being im partial now
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
In order to be unbiased you have to pretend that Trump knows what he's talking about?

I think you can report on his ignorance and not sound biased. The first statement of the article says it all. You can easily spin something in whichever way you want by focusing on certain things

IE: http://www.youngcons.com/hillary-clinton-fails-miserably-trying-to-answer-matt-lauer-about-email-scandal-at-forum-with-trump/

Both of these articles are biased and don't display great journalism at all.

I don't think we should turn a blind eye to terrible journalism because their reporting bias matches yours.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-09 20:05:33
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What Really Happened at Donald Trump's Intelligence Briefing
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As U.S. officials cast doubt on Donald Trump's claim he read the "body language" of intelligence officials at a recent briefing, NBC News has learned exclusive details of what unfolded in the room — and of reported tension between one of Trump's advisers and the briefers.

Six current and former senior officials said they were aware of friction between retired Gen. Michael Flynn, one of the advisers Trump brought to the briefing, and the officials who conducted the briefing. Four sources with knowledge of the briefing — including two intelligence officials who spoke to people in the room — said Flynn repeatedly interrupted the briefers until New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie intervened.

Both Christie and Flynn denied the officials' version of events, with Flynn calling the report "total b__s___" and Christie calling it "a complete work of fiction."

The Aug. 17 briefing is attracting fresh scrutiny after Trump said at NBC's Commander-in-Chief Forum that he divined that intelligence officials were "not happy" with President Obama.

"What I did learn," Trump said, "is that our leadership, Barack Obama, did not follow ... what our experts said to do ... And I was very, very surprised.

"I could tell — I'm pretty good with body language — I could tell they were not happy."

Timothy Barrett, a spokesman for the Director of National Intelligence, declined to comment Thursday on Trump's characterization.

However, a U.S. official pointed out that intelligence officers don't give policy advice, so it would be inaccurate to say that Obama failed to follow the advice of the intelligence community. A second U.S. official said analysts are trained not to allow their body language to betray their thinking.

Meanwhile, four people with knowledge of the matter told NBC News that one of the advisers Trump brought to the briefing, retired general Mike Flynn, repeatedly interrupted the briefing with pointed questions.

Two sources said Christie, the New Jersey governor and Trump adviser, verbally restrained Flynn -- one saying Christie told Flynn to shut up, the other reporting he said, "Calm down." Two other sources said Christie touched Flynn's arm in an effort get him to calm down and let the officials continue.

Christie denied that he had silenced or restrained Flynn. "The comments and actions attributed to me in this story about General Flynn are categorically untrue. I did not make the statements alleged nor did I touch General Flynn's arm for any reason during the briefing. The report is a complete work of fiction."

Flynn told NBC News the report was "total b__s___" and added, "These are anonymous sources. They're lying."

In an interview on TODAY, Flynn was asked whether he saw what Trump claims he did at the briefing.

"I sure did...in a very specific way," Flynn said, though he went on to say that his conclusion was based not on body language but on intelligence officials drawing distinctions between the content of their briefing and White House policy.

The intelligence briefing is given to the presidential nominee from each party.

There were fewer than 10 people in the room at Trump's briefing, and all the briefers were career intelligence officials, including both military officers and civilians, U.S. officials told NBC News. A former senior intelligence official said the briefing team is always the same for both presidential candidates. None were political appointees, and none were among the team that briefs President Obama daily. The names of the briefers have not been made public.

The briefing was conducted at the "secret" level of classification, and it did not cover sources and methods or covert operations.

Current and former U.S. intelligence officials who asked that their names not be disclosed told NBC News that many members of the current intelligence community -- leadership rank and file -- were angered by Trump's comments Wednesday night, and the possibility that he may have disclosed details of his intelligence briefing or attempted to politicize it.

Former CIA and NSA director Mike Hayden, who opposes Trump, told NBC News that in almost four decades in intelligence "I have never seen anything like this before."

"A political candidate has used professional intelligence officers briefing him in a totally non-political setting as props to buttress an argument for his political campaign," said Hayden. "And his political point was actually imputed to them, not even something they allegedly said. The `I can read body language' line was quite remarkable. ... I am confident Director Clapper sent senior professionals to this meeting and so I am equally confident that no such body language ever existed. It's simply not what we do."

Michael Morell, a former acting CIA director who was President George W. Bush's briefer and is now a Hillary Clinton supporter, said Trump's comments about his briefing were extraordinary.

"This is the first time that I can remember a candidate for president doing a readout from an intelligence briefing, and it's the first time a candidate has politicized their intelligence briefing. Both of those are highly inappropriate and crossed a long standing red line respected by both parties," he said.

"To me this is just the most recent example that underscores that this guy is unfit to be commander in chief," Morell continued.

"His comments show that he's got no understanding of how intelligence works. Intelligence officers do not make policy recommendations. It's not their job and anyone running for president should know that. The people who briefed him, I'm pretty sure were career analysts — senior intel professionals. There is no way that they would in any way signal displeasure with the policies of the president."

That said, intelligence officials have asserted they warned the administration repeatedly about the rise of ISIS in Iraq and Syria well before Obama ordered a bombing campaign. And as NBC News has reported, senior intelligence officials in 2012 proposed a covert operation to oust Bashar Assad in Syria, but Obama decided not to move forward with it.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-09 20:12:48
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Yeah, I thought that lie would draw the ire of some people.
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How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money
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Donald Trump was in a tuxedo, standing next to his award: a statue of a palm tree, as tall as a toddler. It was 2010, and Trump was being honored by a charity — the Palm Beach Police Foundation — for his “selfless support” of its cause.

His support did not include any of his own money.

Instead, Trump had found a way to give away somebody else’s money and claim the credit for himself.

Trump had earlier gone to a charity in New Jersey — the Charles Evans Foundation, named for a deceased businessman — and asked for a donation. Trump said he was raising money for the Palm Beach Police Foundation.

The Evans Foundation said yes. In 2009 and 2010, it gave a total of $150,000 to the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a small charity that the Republican presidential nominee founded in 1987.

Then, Trump’s foundation turned around and made donations to the police group in South Florida. In those years, the Trump Foundation’s gifts totaled $150,000.

Trump had effectively turned the Evans Foundation’s gifts into his own gifts, without adding any money of his own.

On the night that he won the Palm Tree Award for his philanthropy, Trump may have actually made money. The gala was held at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, and the police foundation paid to rent the room. It’s unclear how much was paid in 2010, but the police foundation reported in its tax filings that it rented Mar-a-Lago in 2014 for $276,463.

The Donald J. Trump Foundation is not like other charities. An investigation of the foundation — including examinations of 17 years of tax filings and interviews with more than 200 individuals or groups listed as donors or beneficiaries — found that it collects and spends money in a very unusual manner.

For one thing, nearly all of its money comes from people other than Trump. In tax records, the last gift from Trump was in 2008. Since then, all of the donations have been other people’s money — an arrangement that experts say is almost unheard of for a family foundation.

Trump then takes that money and generally does with it as he pleases. In many cases, he passes it on to other charities, which often are under the impression that it is Trump’s own money.

In two cases, he has used money from his charity to buy himself a gift. In one of those cases — not previously reported — Trump spent $20,000 of money earmarked for charitable purposes to buy a six-foot-tall painting of himself.

Money from the Trump Foundation has also been used for political purposes, which is against the law. The Washington Post reported this month that Trump paid a penalty this year to the Internal Revenue Service for a 2013 donation in which the foundation gave $25,000 to a campaign group affiliated with Florida Attorney General Pamela Bondi (R).

Trump’s foundation appears to have repeatedly broken IRS rules, which require nonprofit groups to file accurate paperwork. In five cases, the Trump Foundation told the IRS that it had given a gift to a charity whose leaders told The Post that they had never received it. In two other cases, companies listed as donors to the Trump Foundation told The Post that those listings were incorrect.

Last week, The Post submitted a detailed list of questions about the Trump Foundation to Trump’s campaign. Officials with the campaign declined to comment.

Trump and his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, have both been criticized during their campaigns for activities related to their foundations.

Critics have charged that the giant Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, which employs more than 2,000 people and spends about a quarter of a billion dollars a year, has served as a way for businesses and powerful figures across the world to curry favor with one of America’s most powerful families. The Clinton Foundation has also been credited by supporters and critics alike for its charitable efforts.

Trump has claimed that he gives generously to charity from his own pocket: “I don’t have to give you records,” he told The Post earlier this year, “but I’ve given millions away.” Efforts to verify those gifts have not succeeded, and Trump has refused to release his tax returns, which would show his charitable giving.

That leaves the Trump Foundation as the best window into the GOP nominee’s philanthropy.

In the past several days, questions about Trump’s foundation have focused on the gift to Bondi’s group in 2013. At the time the money arrived, Bondi’s office was considering whether to launch an investigation into allegations of fraud by Trump University — accusations that Trump denies.

The investigation never started. Aides to Bondi and Trump say the gift and the case were unrelated. But Democrats have seized on what they see as a clear example of political influence improperly funded by Trump’s charity.

“The foundation was being used basically to promote a moneymaking fraudulent venture of Donald Trump’s. That’s not what charities are supposed to do,” Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, Clinton’s running mate, said Friday. “I hope there’s a significant effort to get to the bottom of it and find out whether this is the end.”
A threadbare operation

Trump started his foundation in 1987 with a narrow purpose: to give away some of the proceeds from his book “The Art of the Deal.”

Nearly three decades later, the Trump Foundation is still a threadbare, skeletal operation.

The most money it has ever reported having was $3.2 million at the end of 2009. At last count, that total had shrunk to $1.3 million. By comparison, Oprah Winfrey — who is worth $1.5 billion less than Trump, according to a Forbes magazine estimate — has a foundation with $242 million in the bank. At the end of 2014, the Clinton Foundation had $440 million in assets.

In a few cases, Trump seemed to solicit donations only to immediately give them away. But his foundation has also received a handful of bigger donations — including $5 million from professional-wrestling executives Vince and Linda McMahon — that Trump handed out a little at a time.

The foundation has no paid staffers. It has an unpaid board consisting of four Trumps — Donald, Ivanka, Eric and Donald Jr. — and one Trump Organization employee.

In 2014, at last report, each said they worked a half-hour a week.

The Trump Foundation still gives out small, scattered gifts — which seem driven by the demands of Trump’s businesses and social life, rather than by a desire to support charitable causes.

The foundation makes a few dozen donations a year, usually in amounts from $1,000 to $50,000. It gives to charities that rent Trump’s ballrooms. It gives to charities whose leaders buttonholed Trump on the golf course (and then try, in vain, to get him to offer a repeat donation the next year).

It even gives in situations in which Trump publicly put himself on the hook for a donation — as when he promised a gift “out of my wallet” on NBC’s “The Celebrity Apprentice.” The Trump Foundation paid off most of those on-air promises. A TV production company paid others. The Post could find no instance in which a celebrity’s charity got a gift from Trump’s own wallet.

Another time, Trump went on TV’s “Extra” for a contest called “Trump pays your bills!”

A professional spray-tanner won. The Trump Foundation paid her bills.

A rarity among charities

About 10 years ago, the Trump Foundation underwent a major change — although it was invisible to those who received its gifts.

The checks still had Trump’s name on them.

Behind the scenes, he was transforming the foundation from a standard-issue rich person’s philanthropy into a charity that allowed a rich man to be philanthropic for free.

Experts on charity said they had rarely seen anything like it.

“Our common understanding of charity is you give something of yourself to help somebody else. It’s not something that you raise money from one side to spend it on the other,” said Leslie Lenkowsky, the former head of the Corporation for National and Community Service, and a professor studying philanthropy at Indiana University.

By that definition, was Trump engaging in charity?

No, Lenkowsky said.

“It’s a deal,” he said, an arrangement worked out for maximum benefit at minimum sacrifice.

In the Trump Foundation’s early days, between 1987 and 2006, Trump actually was its primary donor. Over that span, Trump gave his own foundation a total of $5.4 million. But he was giving it away as fast as he put it in, and by the start of 2007, the foundation’s assets had dropped to $4,238.

Then, Trump made a change.

First, he stopped giving his own money.

His contribution shrank to $35,000 in 2007.

Then to $30,000 in 2008.

Then to $0.

At the same time, Trump’s foundation began to fill with money from other people.

But in many other cases, his biggest donors have not wanted to say why they gave their own money, when Trump was giving none of his.

“I don’t have time for this. Thank you,” said Richard Ebers, a ticket broker in New York City who has given the Trump Foundation $1.9 million since 2011.

“No. No. No. I’m not going to comment on anything. I’m not answering any of your questions,” said John Stark, the chief executive of a carpet company that has donated $64,000 over the years.

Vince and Linda McMahon declined to comment.

So did NBCUniversal, which donated $500,000 in 2012. Its gift more than covered the “personal” donations that Trump offered at dramatic moments on “The Celebrity Apprentice” — then paid for out of the Trump Foundation.

Trump’s donations to the Palm Beach Police Foundation offered a stark example of Trump turning somebody else’s gift into his own charity.

Tax experts said they had rarely heard of anything like what Trump had done, converting another donor’s gift into his own.

“I question whether it’s ethical. It’s certainly misleading. But I think it’s legal, because you would think that the other foundation that’s . . . being taken advantage of would look out for their own interests,” said Rosemary E. Fei, an attorney in San Francisco who has advised hundreds of small foundations. “That’s their decision to let him do that.”

After three years, the Charles Evans Foundation stopped using Trump as a middleman.

“We realized we don’t need to do it through a pass-through,” said Bonnie Pfeifer Evans, the widow of Charles Evans and a trustee of the now-defunct foundation.

In 2012, the Charles Evans Foundation stopped giving money to the Trump Foundation.

In 2013, according to tax records, the Trump Foundation stopped giving to the Palm Beach Police Foundation.

The police group, which gave Trump the award, did not know that Trump’s money had come from somebody else’s pocket. It could not explain why he gave in some years but not others — or why he gave in the amounts he did.

“He’s the unpredictable guy, right?” said John F. Scarpa, the Palm Beach Police Foundation’s president, before The Post informed him about how Trump got the money. He said Trump’s giving wasn’t the only reason he got the award. He also could be counted on to draw a crowd to the group’s annual event. The amount paid to Trump’s club was first reported by BuzzFeed.

The police group still holds its galas at Mar-a-Lago.
Acts of ‘self-dealing’

At the same time that it began to rely on other people’s money, the Trump Foundation sometimes appeared to flout IRS rules by purchasing things that seemed to benefit only Trump.

In 2007, for instance, Trump and his wife, Melania, attended a benefit for a children’s charity held at Mar-a-Lago. The night’s entertainment was Michael Israel, who bills himself as “the original speed painter.” His frenetic act involved painting giant portraits in five to seven minutes — then auctioning off the art he’d just created.

He painted Trump.

Melania Trump bid $10,000.

Nobody tried to outbid her.

“The auctioneer was just pretty bold, so he said, ‘You know what just happened: When you started bidding, nobody’s going to bid against you, and I think it’s only fair that you double the bid,’ ” Israel said in an interview last week.

Melania Trump increased her bid to $20,000.

“I understand it went to one of his golf courses,” Israel said of the painting.

The Trump Foundation paid the $20,000, according to the charity that held the benefit.

Something similar happened in 2012, when Trump himself won an auction for a football helmet autographed by football player Tim Tebow, then a quarterback with the Denver Broncos.

The winning bid was $12,000. As The Post reported in July, the Trump Foundation paid.

IRS rules generally prohibit acts of “self-dealing,” in which a charity’s leaders use the nonprofit group’s money to buy things for themselves.

In both years, IRS forms asked whether the foundation had broken those rules: Had it “furnish[ed] goods, services or facilities” to Trump or another of its officers?

In both years, the Trump Foundation checked “no.”

Tax experts said Trump could have avoided violating the self-dealing rules if he gave the helmet and the painting to other charities instead of keeping them. Trump’s staffers have not said where the two items are now.

The IRS penalties for acts of “self-dealing” can include penalty taxes, both on charities and on their leaders as individuals.

In other cases, the Trump Foundation’s tax filings appeared to include listings that were incorrect.

The most prominent example is the improper political donation to the group affiliated with Bondi, the Florida attorney general, in 2013. In that case, Trump’s staffers said a series of errors resulted in the payment being made — and then hidden from the IRS.

First, Trump officials said, when the request came down to cut a check to the Bondi group, a Trump Organization clerk followed internal protocol and consulted a book with the names of known charities.

The name of the pro-Bondi group is “And Justice for All.” Trump’s staffer saw that name in the book, and — mistakenly — cut the check from the Trump Foundation. The group in the book was an entirely different charity in Utah, unrelated to Bondi’s group in Florida.

Somehow, the money got to Florida anyway.

Then, Trump’s staffers said, the foundation’s accounting firm made another mistake: It told the IRS that the $25,000 had gone to a third charity, based in Kansas, called Justice for All. In reality, the Kansas group got no money.

“That was just a complete mess-up on names. Anything that could go wrong did go wrong,” Jeffrey McConney, the Trump Organization’s controller, told The Post last week. After The Post pointed out these errors in the spring, Trump paid a $2,500 penalty tax.
Donations not received

In four other cases, The Post found charities that said they never received donations that the Trump Foundation said it gave them.

The amounts were small: $10,000 in 2008, $5,000 in 2010, $10,000 in 2012. Most of the charities had no idea that Trump had said he had given them money.

One did.

This January, the phone rang at a tiny charity in White River Junction, Vt., called Friends of Veterans. This was just after Trump had held a televised fundraiser for veterans in Iowa, raising more than $5 million.

The man on the phone was a Trump staffer who was selecting charities that would receive the newly raised money. He said the Vermont group was already on Trump’s list, because the Trump Foundation had given it $1,000 in 2013.

“I don’t remember a donation from the Trump Foundation,” said Larry Daigle, the group’s president, who was a helicopter gunner with the Army during the Vietnam War. “The guy seemed pretty surprised about this.”

The man went away from the phone. He came back.

Was Daigle sure? He was.

The man thanked him. He hung up. Daigle waited — hopes raised — for the Trump people to call back.

“Oh, my God, do you know how many homeless veterans I could help?” Daigle told The Post this spring, while he was waiting.

Trump gave away the rest of the veterans money in late May.

Daigle’s group got none of it.

In two other cases, the Trump Foundation reported to the IRS that it had received donations from two companies that have denied making such gifts. In 2013, for instance, the Trump Foundation said it had received a $100,000 donation from the Clancy Law Firm, whose offices are in a Trump-owned building on Wall Street.

“That’s incorrect,” said Donna Clancy, the firm’s founder, when The Post called. “I’m not answering any questions.”

She hung up and did not respond to requests for comment afterward.

“All of these things show that the [Trump] foundation is run in a less-than-ideal manner. But that’s not at all unusual for small, private foundations, especially those run by a family,” said Brett Kappel, a Washington attorney who advises tax-exempt organizations. “Usually, you have an accounting firm that has access to the bank statements, and they’re the ones who find these errors and correct them.”

The Trump Foundation’s accountants are at WeiserMazars, a New York-based firm. The Post sent them a detailed list of questions, asking them to explain these possible errors.

The firm declined to comment.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-14 19:26:15
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Not in my house, pastor tells Trump

The GOP nominee was rebuked for attacking Clinton in a black church.

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FLINT, Mich. — Donald Trump's last minute attempt to win over African-American voters veered off course Wednesday afternoon when the pastor of a historically black church cut him off mid-stump speech, reminding him that he had not been invited there to deliver a political speech.

“Hillary Clinton failed on the economy, just like she has failed on foreign policy. Everything she touched didn’t work out, nothing,” Trump told 50 or so people inside Bethel United Methodist Church.

Rev. Faith Green-Timmons, an African-American pastor in this predominantly Democratic city, didn't want to hear it and stepped in to stop him.

“Mr. Trump, I invited you here to thank us for what we’ve done in Flint,” Rev. Faith Green Timmons said as she approached Trump. “Not to give a political speech.”

A chastened Trump quickly looked to smooth things over.

“OK, that’s good. I’m going to go back onto Flint,” he said, pivoting back to a discussion of the city’s troubles with a lead-contaminated infrastructure that has left its water supply undrinkable. “Flint's pain is a result of so many different failures.”

Trump is attempting to fit Flint's water problem into his broader argument that government incompetency is to blame for most problems and that he will be able to fix things. But as he was wrapping up, a few people seated in the pews had questions.

“You’ve discriminated against black tenants,” one said, seeming to reference a New York Times report detailing how Trump and his father frequently denied African-Americans applying to buy or rent in their buildings.

“No, I never,” Trump said, as he was leaving....
There is more but mostly background.
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Ouch, guess Flint isn't interested in his historical fiction.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-15 05:50:23
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Wut Trump is over 120kg?

Is there any american stereotype this guy doesn't represent? .-.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-09-15 13:35:32
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Have you seen Hillary Clinton? I bet she's over 200.
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By Ramyrez 2016-09-15 13:40:54
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Have you seen Hillary Clinton? I bet she's over 200.

Remind me not to let you estimate any livestock I intend to buy. You'll cost me an arm and a leg.

I'm going to set the over/under at 155.
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By Ramyrez 2016-09-15 13:42:12
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Oh wait. Were we staying Kg? ***. I didn't pay attention to that aspect. One sec.

*checks the Oracle of Google*

No, Nausi clearly jumped to pounds. There's no way she's breaking 4 bills.

(Heh. Breaking 4 Bills. Unintentional puns are the best.)
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-15 13:51:45
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If she was over 200kg not only it would be visible to anyone, but she also wouldn't be able to walk anywhere, if she was even alive.
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By eliroo 2016-09-15 15:23:41
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
if she was even alive.

Are you suggesting our queen Clinton is currently a walking zombie robot?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-15 15:33:11
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He's 265lbs at 6'2" and is 70... That's a lot of fat or he's juicing/used to.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-15 16:25:59
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Is he really 265?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-09-15 16:53:00
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Was going off Seha's 120kilo reference. From what I read on the release he is 235.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-15 16:54:35
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By all means I heard it on tv news here so could well be wrong. Still wtf.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-09-15 17:29:14
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Now I see Trump attacked Colin Powell today with delusions. I'm sure the general will lose sleep over not having the support of a person that doesn't know anything.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-16 10:39:03
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Trumpian news today:

Trump on Obama's citizenship: 'We have to keep the suspense going, OK?'

The Republican nominee is blaming Clinton for raising doubts about Obama's birthplace during the 2008 campaign.

Politico

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Donald Trump passed up yet another opportunity to say he accepts the fact that President Barack Obama was born in the United States, promising to make a "major statement" on Friday morning in front of his latest hotel project and telling Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo, "We have to keep the suspense going, OK?”

But he also blamed his opponent Hillary Clinton for raising doubts about Obama's birthplace during the 2008 campaign, despite no evidence that she did so.

"I'm going to be making a major statement on this whole thing and what Hillary did," Trump told Bartiromo. "But no, she is the one that started it and she was unable or incapable of finishing it. That's the way it worked out. But I got him to release his birth certificate. So we will have a big statement and I hope you're going to be watching."

Asked minutes earlier on "Good Morning America" whether his father would say himself that Obama was born in the U.S., Donald Trump Jr. responded, "I don't know." But he said that a statement issued late Thursday by Trump campaign aide Jason Miller "should be the definitive end of it. We thought it was the definitive end when he acknowledged that, 'hey, we got Obama to release his birth certificate' then but, again, we want to talk about jobs. We don't want to talk about gossip."

Miller's statement came after Trump declined in an interview with the Washington Post to acknowledge that Obama is a U.S. citizen....
There's more...

‘Dr. Oz Show’ Edits Out Donald Trump Comment About Kissing Daughter Ivanka
The Wrap

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Donald Trump’s favorite physician, Dr. Mehmet Oz, is under fire after producers edited out a joke made by the GOP nominee about how much he loves kissing his daughter Ivanka.

According to MSNBC’s Peter Alexander, when Ivanka came on to the show during Wednesday’s taping, her father greeted her with a kiss… to which Dr. Oz said something along the lines of, “It’s nice to see a dad kiss his daughter.”

That was all it took for The Donald to give everyone the heebie-jeebies, telling the audience he kisses her every chance he gets.

(Ok … First, Eww).

But when the interview aired, the awkward exchange was conspicuously missing. Ivanka still walked out and Trump kissed her on the cheek, but with no mention of the kiss from spin-Dr. Oz.....
There's more...

And from Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight. (Which is way long and detailed so beyond the attention span of most here.)

Why Is Trump Gaining On Clinton?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-16 10:45:29
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What's wrong with a dad kissing his daughter? On the cheek even. That's stupid.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-16 12:45:53
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What's wrong with a dad kissing his daughter? On the cheek even. That's stupid.
Nothing at all.

Its his creepy comments about her that are sick and wrong.

And Dr. Oz ("I'm a real doctor but on TV I play a charlatan.") cutting a mildly creepy one out is news only because Trump=ratings.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-09-18 08:18:42
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Have you seen Hillary Clinton? I bet she's over 200.

Remind me not to let you estimate any livestock I intend to buy. You'll cost me an arm and a leg.

I'm going to set the over/under at 155.




Easily pushing 190 if not 2 bills.

I suspect your using a different "scale" (yuk yuk) because you're trying to be kind. That's actually a prime example of sexism.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-18 09:29:42
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Sorry Nasui, I'm taller than Hillary, about as broad in the hips, and come in at under 180.
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