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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-15 03:19:24
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So apparently Trump's campaign got money from Yanukovych(ex Ukraine pres)...all kind of very random things are going on in these elections.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-15 15:55:14
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Well it looks like Trump's #1 boy, Paul Manafort, will be the next bone of contention.



Ukraine Documents Detail Cash Payments to Paul Manafort
The newly discovered ledgers show that Donald Trump’s campaign chief received as much as $12.7 million in under-the-table cash from an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

US News and World Report. Usually pro business conservative.

Manafort blasts NYT, denies he accepted Ukraine cash payments
Politico

Manafort named in Ukrainian probe into millions in secret cash
CNN

It broke in the NY Times:
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-15 16:00:17
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P. S.


US election: Trump team 'must disclose pro-Russia ties'

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Donald Trump's campaign team must disclose all pro-Russia links, Hillary Clinton's manager has said, following new allegations in the New York Times.

The paper said ledgers earmarked $12.7m (£9.8m) in undisclosed cash payments from a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine to Mr Trump's campaign head Paul Manafort between 2007 and 2012.

His lawyer said Mr Manafort had not received any such payments.

Mr Trump's ties to Russia have been a frequent topic in the US election.

The New York Times article says Mr Manafort and his business played a key role in advising Ukraine's former pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych, who fled after an uprising in November 2013.

It said Ukraine's National Anti-Corruption Bureau had discovered the listed payments in the ledgers of Mr Yanukovych's then governing Party of the Regions - allegedly part of "an illegal off-the-books system".

The bureau is also investigating business deals worth millions of dollars put together with the help of Mr Manafort's business.

However, the bureau is yet to determine if Mr Manafort actually received any of the $12.7m.

The Times quoted Mr Manafort's lawyer, Richard Hibey, as saying his client had not done so.

"It is difficult to respect any kind of allegation of the sort being made here to smear someone when there is no proof and we deny there ever could be such proof."

Mr Yanukovych fled to Russia after the uprising, miring Moscow and the pro-Western government in Kiev in bitter conflict since..../quote]
There's more but its all past tense filler.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-15 16:12:15
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Trump/Pence Russia/Ukraine 2016

Hillary/Kaine Saudi Arabia/Iran 2016
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-08-15 16:20:37
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Saudi/Iran really doesn't work...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-15 16:25:18
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Saudi/Iran really doesn't work...

Well, Clinton's taking money from the Saudis, and Obama's been giving money to Iran, so she's going to try and make it work!
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-16 13:10:19
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Trumps got a point about immigration issues by just looking a cross the atlantic at whats happening to europe right now.

1. Germany


2. Norway


It gets even worse we have in Obama's administration Valerie Jarrett is currently Senior Advisor to the President of the United States and Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs in the Obama administration. She is one of many Islamists Obama has surrounded himself with, placing them in high government positions.



Truer words could never be spoken
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-08-16 13:21:11
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
I really hope trump wins so that when he does nothing like the rest of the presidents I can antagonize the absolute *** out of people who thought he would make America great again lol

then vote for him November 8th
If nothing else makes you question yourself voting for Trump... Ask yourself... Should I be voting for the same guy lordgrim is? Hmmm...
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-16 13:23:13
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
I really hope trump wins so that when he does nothing like the rest of the presidents I can antagonize the absolute *** out of people who thought he would make America great again lol

then vote for him November 8th
If nothing else makes you question yourself voting for Trump... Ask yourself... Should I be voting for the same guy lordgrim is? Hmmm...

That depends on if you value your nation's sovereignty, then yes vote like i would.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-16 20:27:13
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Donald Trump Tests Positive for Everything, According to His Own Doctor
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Donald Trump tests positive for every medical ailment. All of them. Supposedly, that’s what his doctor says—or at least, that’s what the Trump campaign portrays him as saying.

On Monday, Trump opined that Hillary Clinton did not have the mental or physical stamina to be president. This was playing off of a conspiracy theory that has been pushed in the conservative media and by Trump supporters for weeks. As I wrote earlier this week, Fox News’s Sean Hannity and others even attempted to claim Clinton suffered from seizures, a vile misrepresentation that harms people who have epilepsy, as I do.

Still, the Trump acolytes have not dropped their lying campaign about Clinton’s health, and their argument that people with epilepsy are unfit for political office. They are demanding she produce all of her medical records. Since these lies are harming people with seizures, let’s talk about the health of both candidates and the relevant information released by their campaigns.

On July 28, 2015, the Clinton campaign released a typical medical letter from an internist, whom she has seen since 2001—Lisa Bardack, director of internal medicine, Mount Sinai Health System at CareMount Medical. The letter is a typical medical history, and begins with the usual summary of a full physical, calling her a “healthy 67-year-old female.” It lists medical issues and the findings of testing. The tests, it says, were negative, meaning they showed no problems. To use the medical terminology, it is an unremarkable document.

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.



It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), sometimes it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name, freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus. (Other times it takes you to a generic medical website. No, I can't explain that either.)

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?

Unlike the Clinton letter, it does not contain a full medical history for Trump. The letter also has problems with sentence structure and major typographical errors, such as the opening line, “To Whom My Concern.” Most amusing, it says that his medical examination of Trump has “only positive results.” In medical terms, if the test is positive, it confirms the existence of disease. Is this doctor saying Trump has every medical ailment that could be found in examination? Does he not know the meaning of the word? Or, as I suspect, was the letter written by someone in the Trump campaign?

Anyone reading the letter can make a good guess about who that person might be. It says results were “extraordinarily excellent.” (Not a medical term.) It says, “His physical strength and stamina are extraordinary.” (Again, not a medical term.) Then, in the most hilarious, Trump-esque line of all, it says, “If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency.” In other words, this letter purports to show that a doctor has assessed the health of 43 people he has never examined, including the four who are still alive.

Now, if conservative conspiracy theorists want to play a “the candidate could have health problems” game, let’s do that. The letter from the Trump campaign mentions nothing about family history, as any normal letter assessing someone’s medical condition would. (Clinton’s does.) Family history is critical in understanding possible diseases that may emerge, particularly those with a genetic link. Trump’s father, Fred Trump, died from complications of late-onset Alzheimer’s disease. That condition, which is the most common form of Alzheimer’s, emerges in people in their mid-60s or later. Trump is 70.

There is a genetic component to the disease. Risk increases when a person has a particular type of apolipoprotein E (APOE) gene on the 19th chromosome. The type of APOE gene a person has is testable. Has Dr. Bornstein, the gastroenterologist, tested for it? If not, why not? Is that why Trump has avoided seeing an internist, since they would conduct such a test? Such a test might reveal that Trump is unfit for office since dementia, unlike epilepsy, could damage a president’s ability to think coherently.

Moreover, people have been suggesting that they may have seen symptoms of Alzheimer’s in Trump’s behavior. Yes, I am using Trump argument style of “people say,” but I’m going to help you identify the people. Type “Trump and Alzheimer’s” into Google and lots of articles and online comments pop up pointing out behaviors of Trump’s that are consistent with Alzheimer’s: meandering speech, poor self-control, not properly responding to questions that are asked, erratic behavior.

See? I can generate conspiracy theories too. Please understand, I’m not saying Trump has Alzheimer’s. I’m just showing how easy it is to take a few facts and line them up to play the “I’m only asking questions” game. So if conservatives want to keep pushing their “Clinton’s health” conspiracy theory, even though they have a full assessment of her medical status from her doctor, then I’m going to keep demanding that Trump release a letter from a real internist that has real medical tests and results for Alzheimer’s. I’m not going to let kids with epilepsy be told they can’t be president of the United States or anything else they want simply so a bunch of liars can score political points. The case that there may be medical problems with Trump, given the nonsense of his medical letter and his poor family history, is much stronger than that against Clinton. It’s time for Trump and the conservative media to drop this line of attack, one that harms innocent people. Or get ready to answer questions that “people are asking” about what horrible things Trump is hiding about his health.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-16 20:45:15
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Apparently the establishment media reporting thinks we have English majors as doctor's. Yes doctors do make typos, and use Microsoft Word. What are they supposed to use a apple program instead?

Doctors can say extraordinary excellent IF they want to get paid. Haven't you heard of the medical system today in America. Patients tell doctors what they want even if it's not considered best practice.

As disturbing as this sounds there is corruption in our medical system and it's source is big Pharma. This effects everyone.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-08-16 20:45:29
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Lol I saw that earlier and I'm still not convinced it isn't parody. It reads like a kid writing his own excuse letter and signing it as "Mom".
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-08-16 20:59:46
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
a apple

You'd make a fine doctor
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Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
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You'd make a fine doctor

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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-08-16 21:24:55
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Apparently the establishment media reporting thinks we have English majors as doctor's....
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Newsweek (Opinion)
Please note the difference in those two words.

Then read the whole fripping article. With the same attention to detail you give infowars.
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By Cruz Missive 2016-08-16 21:30:04
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It is kind of ridiculous, but I've spent enough time with doctors to know that while highly educated, their education tends to be very, very narrow. This focus is a necessity of the job, given the importance of not, you know, *** up, but it doesn't turn very many of them into well-rounded people. If I saw this letter from any of the doctors I've had, I wouldn't be all that shocked.

Also, not to defend the more ridiculous claims in there (c'mon now, he's not healthier than Obama - Barry is fifteen years younger and in very good shape), but Trump's health is probably really good for a seventy year old! He doesn't drink or smoke, and has had access to top flight healthcare his entire life.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-16 21:55:46
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Apparently the establishment media reporting thinks we have English majors as doctor's....
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Newsweek (Opinion)
Please note the difference in those two words.

Then read the whole fripping article. With the same attention to detail you give infowars.

You mean Clinton's newsweek
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By Bahamut.Predatory 2016-08-17 22:44:37
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@Cruz Missiv
But doctors have to have taken English both at the high school and collegiate level, they don't just become jabbering idiots after they get their doctorates. Doctors suddenly forget how to use the English language?
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Bahamut.Predatory said: »
@Cruz Missiv
But doctors have to have taken English both at the high school and collegiate level, they don't just become jabbering idiots after they get their doctorates. Doctors suddenly forget how to use the English language?

We do have a lot of doctors who came from foreign nations that have not mastered the English language spoken or written.

So it happens to natural born and migration Dr's no one's excluded
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-08-17 23:07:48
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Bahamut.Predatory said: »
@Cruz Missiv
But doctors have to have taken English both at the high school and collegiate level, they don't just become jabbering idiots after they get their doctorates. Doctors suddenly forget how to use the English language?

If their handwriting is any indication....
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By Asura.Iuno 2016-08-17 23:28:38
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Apparently the establishment media reporting thinks we have English majors as doctor's. Yes doctors do make typos, and use Microsoft Word.
not to be a jerk, good sir, but doctors, not doctor's.

's = ownership
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-08-17 23:31:39
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I'm late to this party. Are we generally stacking on trump or havewe deflected here because someone dared to point at Hillary?
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By Asura.Iuno 2016-08-17 23:33:15
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »

Truer words could never be spoken
that she wants to be a largely popular elected official who's been re-elected multiple times to her post?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-08-17 23:46:18
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If Hillary wants to be Merkel, she's gotta learn to go a day or two without the need for diapers.
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Asura.Iuno said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »

Truer words could never be spoken
that she wants to be a largely popular elected official who's been re-elected multiple times to her post?


He said that about her open borders policy
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Asura.Iuno said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »

Truer words could never be spoken
that she wants to be a largely popular elected official who's been re-elected multiple times to her post?


He said that about her open borders policy
germany's own officials told reuters that trump's ranting about merkel's policies were factually inaccurate.

he went on to say

"Im sorry that the Republican presidential candidate trumpets out things like that without any factual basis. I he had studied the actual situation in Germany, he would know that, while may of the refuges who came to Germany and Europe pose a big challenge for us, and everything is still not completely resolved, they have not led to a massive increase in crime."

fact does remain, that if she were like merkel, she'd he one of the most successful female politicians of our time. merkel's been chancellor over and over again since 2005 for a reason.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-08-18 06:14:33
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If I was you i wouldn't be quoting Reuters which is up to its eye sockets in election fraud pollstering over the years of its existence of coverage of US elections.

Reuters does change polling results and not from people like you or me that take the surveys.

Reuters does erase old polling data that does not favor who the "owners " favored choice.

This illusion reuters which is affiliated with the mainstream media is cooking up false narratives to try to convince people Hillary Clinton is the only choice.

Prepare your butt cheeks for a landslide victory for Donald Trump
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