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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-06-13 16:09:27
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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When a presidential candidate gets in front of a podium and says outrageous things about women, about Hispanics, about Muslims, it is HE who is at fault for the backlash, not his critics. His rhetoric is his responsibility and I can't even understand how you aren't seeing this. This goes beyond perspective and circumstance, it's just common sense.

backlash?

as of may 4th over seventy five million dollars were spent in anti trump ads (64,000+ ads)

75 million dollars spent against trump

If attacking him isn't working... attack him more? Probably could have done more damage to him by donating $75 million to charity and saying it was an opponent's idea.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-13 16:21:01
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Trump hugs American flag at rally
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At one point during the rally, supporters in the crowd began a “build that wall” chant, at which point the presumptive GOP presidential nominee turned around and hugged an American flag on the stage.
the ***
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By fonewear 2016-06-13 16:58:19
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The only way to defeat Trump is to be more Trump !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-13 17:37:27
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Trump hugs American flag at rally
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At one point during the rally, supporters in the crowd began a “build that wall” chant, at which point the presumptive GOP presidential nominee turned around and hugged an American flag on the stage.
the ***

Love trump... or be loved by trump.... the choice, as always, is yours.
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By Ramyrez 2016-06-13 17:38:28
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Trump hugs American flag at rally
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At one point during the rally, supporters in the crowd began a “build that wall” chant, at which point the presumptive GOP presidential nominee turned around and hugged an American flag on the stage.
the ***

Love trump... or be loved by trump.... the choice, as always, is yours.

Sounds kinda rapey...
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By fonewear 2016-06-13 17:42:22
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*insert pointless discussion on rape here*
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By fonewear 2016-06-13 17:45:32
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Trump is going to end gay night club killings by banning gay night clubs !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-06-13 18:20:14
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Ramyrez said:
Sounds kinda rapey...

Rqpetato, Rapetado.

We prefer "involuntary hug recipeant"
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-06-14 16:20:40
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Russian hackers stole Dems' Trump files

TLDR: Russian military hackers got the DNC's oppisition reasearch files on Trump.

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Washington (CNN)Hackers connected to the Russian government broke into the servers of the Democratic National Committee and stole opposition research on Donald Trump, the cybersecurity experts who responded to the intrusion said Tuesday.

Two separate Russian intelligence-linked cyberattack groups were both in the DNC's networks, Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and chief technology officer of CrowdStrike, which responded to the breach, told CNN. They likely didn't even know the other was in the systems, he added.

The U.S. government, however, has not yet determined that the hackers who breached the server are connected to the Russian government, a U.S. official told CNN.

The breach was first reported by The Washington Post.

CrowdStrike was enlisted by the DNC early last month after the DNC suspected something was amiss in its servers. The hackers were kicked out over the weekend, Alperovitch said, and CrowdStrike is monitoring for any efforts by them to hack back in.

"The security of our system is critical to our operation and to the confidence of the campaigns and state parties we work with," DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a statement. "When we discovered the intrusion, we treated this like the serious incident it is and reached out to CrowdStrike immediately. Our team moved as quickly as possible to kick out the intruders and secure our network."

The group that stole Trump's opposition file got in a few months ago and is linked closely with a Russian military intelligence organization, Alperovitch said. A different Russian group was monitoring the communications servers of the DNC, including email, for about a year.

Voter files did not appear to be affected, CrowdStrike determined.

"I have high-level confidence that this is Russian intelligence," Alperovitch said, citing a vast body of research his company has on the unique indicators of various cyberattack groups around the world. CrowdStrike specializes in groups known as "advanced persistent threats," or high-level, often government-linked, hacking entities.

CrowdStrike names the cyberattack groups it identifies, using the term "Bear" for Russian-linked groups. The two groups involved with the DNC are nicknamed "Fancy Bear," the Trump files group, and "Cozy Bear," which was in the communications systems.

"Fancy Bear actually went after opposition research and specifically research related to the Trump candidacy," Alperovitch said, adding that the files appeared to be the group's sole target.
Cozy Bear, Alperovitch said, is the same group that broke into the unclassified servers of the White House, State Department and Joint Chiefs of Staff last year.

Both groups have targeted key defense and political institutions worldwide of strategic importance to Russia. According to the Post, U.S. officials have observed attempts to infiltrate both the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Trump as well as Republican PACs.
Any U.S. election is of intense interest to overseas governments, and Trump's candidacy has especially raised his relationship with Russia throughout the campaign. He has at times spoken admiringly of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and some of his foreign policies have drawn praise in Moscow, despite the country's chilly relationship with the U.S. He is also a lesser known entity on the world stage, having only recently become a politician.

Alperovitch also said it's not unusual for separate Russian groups to be operating without knowledge of one another. Unlike in the West, he said, different agencies function separately and often jockey for favor with Moscow.

"Obviously, you have the DNC engaged in communication with lots of different parties, and anything you can use to gain intelligence about what's going on in the U.S. political system and what the candidates are thinking is of high interest to Russian intelligence," Alperovitch said.

Rhode Island Rep. Jim Langevin, the Democratic co-chairman of the Congressional Cybersecurity Caucus, praised what he said was the DNC's transparency and quickness in responding to the second breach, but said the report was concerning.

"It is disconcerting that two independent operations were able to penetrate the DNC, one of which was able to stay embedded for nearly a year," Langevin said. "Defending a network against a determined nation-state is an extremely tall order, particularly for a private entity, but we must ensure that there is emphasis placed on post-breach discovery and remediation -- we cannot allow attackers to root around in our systems for so long undetected."

Alperovitch said his firm is not working with the FBI, though he believes the DNC is. CrowdStrike was retained by the DNC through its law firm.

The FBI, as well as the Clinton and Trump campaigns, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

A Department of Homeland Security official told CNN the agency is aware of the reports and is currently looking into the matter.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-14 16:31:09
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Russian hackers stole Dems' Trump files, and what they found will shock you!
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2016-06-14 16:35:26
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Fancy Bear
Tell me more
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2016-06-14 16:45:27
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Russian hackers stole Dems' Trump files, and what they found will shock you!

There, have a vote up. I can't remember the last time I gave one away.

Also, I'd vote down you if I could. You have no idea how sick I am of those headlines.
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By fonewear 2016-06-14 16:55:34
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Russian hackers stole Dems' Trump files

TLDR: Russian military hackers got the DNC's oppisition reasearch files on Trump.

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Washington (CNN)Hackers connected to the Russian government broke into the servers of the Democratic National Committee and stole opposition research on Donald Trump, the cybersecurity experts who responded to the intrusion said Tuesday.

Two separate Russian intelligence-linked cyberattack groups were both in the DNC's networks, Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and chief technology officer of CrowdStrike, which responded to the breach, told CNN. They likely didn't even know the other was in the systems, he added.

The U.S. government, however, has not yet determined that the hackers who breached the server are connected to the Russian government, a U.S. official told CNN.

The breach was first reported by The Washington Post.

CrowdStrike was enlisted by the DNC early last month after the DNC suspected something was amiss in its servers. The hackers were kicked out over the weekend, Alperovitch said, and CrowdStrike is monitoring for any efforts by them to hack back in.

"The security of our system is critical to our operation and to the confidence of the campaigns and state parties we work with," DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a statement. "When we discovered the intrusion, we treated this like the serious incident it is and reached out to CrowdStrike immediately. Our team moved as quickly as possible to kick out the intruders and secure our network."

The group that stole Trump's opposition file got in a few months ago and is linked closely with a Russian military intelligence organization, Alperovitch said. A different Russian group was monitoring the communications servers of the DNC, including email, for about a year.

Voter files did not appear to be affected, CrowdStrike determined.

"I have high-level confidence that this is Russian intelligence," Alperovitch said, citing a vast body of research his company has on the unique indicators of various cyberattack groups around the world. CrowdStrike specializes in groups known as "advanced persistent threats," or high-level, often government-linked, hacking entities.

CrowdStrike names the cyberattack groups it identifies, using the term "Bear" for Russian-linked groups. The two groups involved with the DNC are nicknamed "Fancy Bear," the Trump files group, and "Cozy Bear," which was in the communications systems.

"Fancy Bear actually went after opposition research and specifically research related to the Trump candidacy," Alperovitch said, adding that the files appeared to be the group's sole target.
Cozy Bear, Alperovitch said, is the same group that broke into the unclassified servers of the White House, State Department and Joint Chiefs of Staff last year.

Both groups have targeted key defense and political institutions worldwide of strategic importance to Russia. According to the Post, U.S. officials have observed attempts to infiltrate both the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Trump as well as Republican PACs.
Any U.S. election is of intense interest to overseas governments, and Trump's candidacy has especially raised his relationship with Russia throughout the campaign. He has at times spoken admiringly of Russian President Vladimir Putin, and some of his foreign policies have drawn praise in Moscow, despite the country's chilly relationship with the U.S. He is also a lesser known entity on the world stage, having only recently become a politician.

Alperovitch also said it's not unusual for separate Russian groups to be operating without knowledge of one another. Unlike in the West, he said, different agencies function separately and often jockey for favor with Moscow.

"Obviously, you have the DNC engaged in communication with lots of different parties, and anything you can use to gain intelligence about what's going on in the U.S. political system and what the candidates are thinking is of high interest to Russian intelligence," Alperovitch said.

Rhode Island Rep. Jim Langevin, the Democratic co-chairman of the Congressional Cybersecurity Caucus, praised what he said was the DNC's transparency and quickness in responding to the second breach, but said the report was concerning.

"It is disconcerting that two independent operations were able to penetrate the DNC, one of which was able to stay embedded for nearly a year," Langevin said. "Defending a network against a determined nation-state is an extremely tall order, particularly for a private entity, but we must ensure that there is emphasis placed on post-breach discovery and remediation -- we cannot allow attackers to root around in our systems for so long undetected."

Alperovitch said his firm is not working with the FBI, though he believes the DNC is. CrowdStrike was retained by the DNC through its law firm.

The FBI, as well as the Clinton and Trump campaigns, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

A Department of Homeland Security official told CNN the agency is aware of the reports and is currently looking into the matter.

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By fonewear 2016-06-14 20:50:34
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I've spent 10 mins on Youtube and I"m convinced Trump did this. It wasn't that Muslim. Trump was wearing a Muslim mask and went to Orlando to kill those people. So he could ban Muslims... it's an elaborate scheme to keep his Muslim ban promise !
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-06-14 21:13:34
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A gay radicalized Muslim and registered Democrat shoots up a gay nightclub murdering 49 Americans and wounding another 50+. Why is the left insisting on trying to twist this into anything besides a terrorist attack by a radicalized Muslim that should be uniting all Americans, Muslim community included? I saw the President go off for 10 minutes at the White House podium absolutely trashing Republicans with strawman attacks. It was disgusting. He is the most divisive and horrible President in United States History. Almost 8 years into his Presidency and he still shocks me with his constant partisanship and disrespect for those that have different opinions and strategies.
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By fonewear 2016-06-14 21:16:25
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Because a terrorist attack doesn't fit the agenda of banning guns. The fact that he is a Muslim or said he is a Muslim is not relevant. It is that he had some super powerful anti tank rocket launcher. Also know as an AR-15 !
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-15 10:36:44
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So do Trump backers support his new move?
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But on Wednesday, he tweeted: "I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns."
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-06-15 10:40:29
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
A gay radicalized Muslim and registered Democrat shoots up a gay nightclub murdering 49 Americans and wounding another 50+. Why is the left insisting on trying to twist this into anything besides a terrorist attack by a radicalized Muslim that should be uniting all Americans, Muslim community included? I saw the President go off for 10 minutes at the White House podium absolutely trashing Republicans with strawman attacks. It was disgusting. He is the most divisive and horrible President in United States History. Almost 8 years into his Presidency and he still shocks me with his constant partisanship and disrespect for those that have different opinions and strategies.
Yet here you are... Maybe you should practice what you preach instead of doing exactly what you accuse Obama of doing... So yeah...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-06-15 10:56:21
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
A gay radicalized Muslim and registered Democrat shoots up a gay nightclub murdering 49 Americans and wounding another 50+. Why is the left insisting on trying to twist this into anything besides a terrorist attack by a radicalized Muslim that should be uniting all Americans, Muslim community included? I saw the President go off for 10 minutes at the White House podium absolutely trashing Republicans with strawman attacks. It was disgusting. He is the most divisive and horrible President in United States History. Almost 8 years into his Presidency and he still shocks me with his constant partisanship and disrespect for those that have different opinions and strategies.
He called out Trump's trashy comments and challenged Republicans to actually support them. Of course no one will, but let's blame any divisiveness on the president and not the candidate spouting ridiculous and dangerous ideas.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2016-06-15 11:30:47
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So do Trump backers support his new move?
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But on Wednesday, he tweeted: "I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns."

That's honestly a good start.
It really isn't.

1. People have no way of petitioning of get off these lists. They are also not publicly available information. Between 400,000 and 1,000,000+ peoplease are on the terror list at any one time. The no fly list has over 50,000 people on it.

2. Many are on these lists because they have been questioned in relation to others, through no fault of their own. These people have been convicted of no crime but should lose constitutional rights?

3. This wouldn't have made a difference in this case as he was on the list for 10 months. Unless we just take away gun purchasing rights forever to whomever gets placed on a watch list, it would not help as he bought the guns in June.
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By fonewear 2016-06-15 11:40:27
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This is still an issue ? It's Wednesday time to move on people quit living in the past !
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-06-15 11:44:25
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Yeah, by now Trump will be making up more stuff about the American shooter.
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By Odin.Slore 2016-06-15 11:47:48
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Just like the recent attack in Paris with the cop and his wife, if people want to kill others they will find a way regardless of banning legal owners from having firearms.

It is a person issue not a gun issue. If we are to not judge all Muslims by the actions of a few, then why do we judge all gun owners by the actions of a few?
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