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By Ozaii 2020-01-09 21:22:28
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The following abilities of pets summoned with the job ability Call Beast have been adjusted so that the delay between inputting the command and activation is now 0.25s.

Now bst can ac and af more so like a smn.
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By Cerberus.Mrkillface 2020-01-09 22:04:16
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BST ALL TEH THINGZ!!!!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 22:05:28
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it also means you don't lose nearly so much tp time if you use ready move. Meaning getting in pet/master skillchain/bursts will be smoother.

Also no delay on self buffing is VERY cool.
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By Phoenix.Tearxx 2020-01-09 22:15:06
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Ozaii said: »
The following abilities of pets summoned with the job ability Call Beast have been adjusted so that the delay between inputting the command and activation is now 0.25s.

Now bst can ac and af more so like a smn.

Finally they fix the ja0 lock. BST just became viable again!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 22:32:36
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yeah, Unleash just got a huge boost.
Wonder how many ready moves we can get off in 60s now.

1 bst for a yakshi burn maybe?
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By Shiva.Malthar 2020-01-09 22:39:19
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Xilkk,coming to Shiva?
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-01-09 22:41:27
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Shiva.Malthar said: »
Xilkk,coming to Shiva?

Shhhhh! Not yet, Malthar san
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 22:42:32
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Coming to Quetz?

MonsterInc Revived?

or would we need to go back to Bahamut?
or resurrect Ramuh?
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-01-09 22:44:16
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Coming to Quetz?

MonsterInc Revived?

MonstersInc was Ramuh. Wrong server.

You're thinking BzerozerotyPirates. Speaking of which, whatever happened to that shell? I know Trulusia took a break. Did he end up quitting altogether?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 22:49:32
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Shiva.Siviard said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Coming to Quetz?

MonsterInc Revived?

MonstersInc was Ramuh. Wrong server.

You're thinking BzerozerotyPirates. Speaking of which, whatever happened to that shell? I know Trulusia took a break. Did he end up quitting altogether?


Yeah, Tru quit. he flirts w/ the idea of coming back every once in awhile methinks, but its been over 2 years. over 3 years.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-01-09 22:54:11
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Coming to Quetz?

MonsterInc Revived?

MonstersInc was Ramuh. Wrong server.

You're thinking BzerozerotyPirates. Speaking of which, whatever happened to that shell? I know Trulusia took a break. Did he end up quitting altogether?


Yeah, Tru quit. he flirts w/ the idea of coming back every once in awhile methinks, but its been over 2 years. over 3 years.

So did that shell end up falling apart instead? Shame if that's the case.

And where is Grand Master Falkirk lately?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 23:01:53
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Shiva.Siviard said: »
And where is Grand Master Falkirk lately?

Haven't seen falkirk on for a month or 2. though he did update gearsets for this last month pretty quickly.
I might just be on opposite side of the clock, but I think he's waiting for something new.
maybe this update will do it for some testing at least.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-01-09 23:05:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
And where is Grand Master Falkirk lately?

Haven't seen falkirk on for a month or 2. though he did update gearsets for this last month pretty quickly.
I might just be on opposite side of the clock, but I think he's waiting for something new.
maybe this update will do it for some testing at least.

Poor Malthar has been trying to get Falkirk over to Shiva for ages. Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind it. Guidance from the grand master BST himself.
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By Spaitin 2020-01-09 23:06:31
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is zealos snort JA haste or magic haste? could make fencer build really significant.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2020-01-09 23:07:33
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Spaitin said: »
is zealos snort JA haste or magic haste? could make fencer build really significant.


hmm answered this question at least 3 times in the last few pages.

yes, fencer build is viable now. I like it with /drg.

Oh, I want to try to unleash on WoC now :D
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By Monko 2020-01-09 23:10:13
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Spaitin said: »
is zealos snort JA haste or magic haste? could make fencer build really significant.

We haven't been able to test that since it had been only a pet boost until this update. Will know when servers are up.
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By Spaitin 2020-01-09 23:11:37
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if it is ja haste, then i think tri edge mistral spams might become pretty dang fun.


Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
I didn't do the testing, but I vaguely recall talking to Falkirk. I'm pretty sure we chatted that it was JA haste.


I read t his and it appeared that you had no idea what kind of haste it was. so no, the question was not answered.
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By Carbuncle.Papesse 2020-01-09 23:16:50
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I checked with Atomos in Ballista just before the update, it was magic haste.
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By Spaitin 2020-01-09 23:19:19
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Carbuncle.Papesse said: »
I checked with Atomos in Ballista just before the update, it was magic haste.


welp that ruined a really strong option for bst.

Thanks for actually testing and being able to provide an answer though.
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2020-01-09 23:49:07
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Question - this "The following abilities of pets summoned with the job ability Call Beast have been adjusted so that the delay between inputting the command and activation is now 0.25s." - Wont it make it impossible to swap gear fast enough from ready gear to pet attack gear? (not using lua)? It just the leg slot now, but if this is true it seems like a slight nerf unless Unleash is used.
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By clearlyamule 2020-01-10 00:31:30
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Not really. You might have to use 2 macros and be fast but definitely do able without tools
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2020-01-10 02:13:53
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Just tested ... two things:

1) The changes works with beast loyalty.

2) The ready moves are so fast now - it is *not* possible to gear swap between a ready set and the pet attack set anymore (without lua at least).

So we must use a single set now, and sacrifice the leg slot.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2020-01-10 02:30:58
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Full potency and duration pet buffs applied to the master.

Shiva.Larrymc said: »
2) The ready moves are so fast now - it is *not* possible to gear swap between a ready set and the pet attack set anymore (without lua at least).

So we must use a single set now, and sacrifice the leg slot.

You're right, it's extremely fast now. With even the slightest amount of lag in an instanced zone there's no hope for changing legs before the Ready move connects.
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By Vankathka 2020-01-10 02:36:08
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Berserk and Rage stack if anyone was wondering, who needs defense, also I assume the Devs forgot the -Ready timer legs exist and assumed only Merlin was used to reduce timers because otherwise its hilarious that they essentially forced you to still use a non-ilevel piece of gear.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2020-01-10 02:39:03
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Vankathka said: »
Berserk and Rage stack if anyone was wondering, who needs defense.

LOL, better have a really good tank then if you're going to be dropping 90k+ Decimations.
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By phunky 2020-01-10 02:47:55
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Metallic body spam seems like it has some potential for master tanking.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2020-01-10 03:10:39
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Secretion - Enhances pet's evasion as well as master's if in area of effect. (Evasion+25; 4min37sec @1540 TP, 9 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Rage - Enhances pet's attacks but weakens its defense, as well as master's if in area of effect. (Attack+50%, Defense-50%; 9 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Bubble Curtain - Enhances pet's magic defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (MDT-50%; 3min9sec @ 1040 TP, 9 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Scissor Guard - Enhances pet's defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (Defense+100%; 1min3sec @1040 TP, 3 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Metallic Body - Gives the effect of "Stoneskin," as well as master if in area of effect. (~200 HP damage Stoneskin; 10min23sec @ 1040 TP, 30 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Harden Shell - Enhances pet's defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (Defense+50%; 1min3sec @ 1040 TP, 3 minutes @ 3000 TP)
Water Wall - Enhances pet's defense as well as master's if in area of effect. (Defense+100%; 3~9 minutes [Random])
Zealous Snort - Grants pet and master the effect of Haste, enhances their magic defense, and increases their likelihood of both countering and guarding. (Haste+25%, MDB+25; 3 minutes @ 3000 TP)

The circular Area of Effect animation when you're selecting Ready moves from the menu has a radius of 8 yalms.

Edit from the future: Rage's effect is +50%/-50% on the player, even though it is still +60%/-60% on the pet.
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By kishr 2020-01-10 03:40:49
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So you can't swap timer gear for those 10 seconds(axe/pants) because of ability activation speed, then they gave merits a extra 5 seconds? so bst lost 5 seconds for sic/ready with this update?
(unless sacrifice legs during gearswap?)
Also, does the aoe effect pt members?
And is 'metallic body' spam the new invincible?

This update has potential, can't wait to get home and dust off my bst finally.
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By SimonSes 2020-01-10 03:52:05
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Shiva.Siviard said: »
Vankathka said: »
Berserk and Rage stack if anyone was wondering, who needs defense.

LOL, better have a really good tank then if you're going to be dropping 90k+ Decimations.

You know attack has a cap right? EDIT: or rather ratio of attack to defense has a cap, but you know what I mean.
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By phunky 2020-01-10 03:52:56
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I was just messing around on apex mobs and had metallic body up fulltime without any issue. I run full malignance gear and moonlight rings in my TP set so maybe thats why metallic body was lasting so long.

As for pants i had mine swap in most of the time but did notice a few 15 second waits.
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