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Most Efficient Way to get a Mythic!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-27 19:50:09
Pretend you are a female, and then beg on BG.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-27 20:52:04
Exploit a glitch in Salvage reducing anyone else long arduous journey to a meaningless en-devour and get all your alex and assaults done in 3 days.
and then take a 3 day holiday when SE temp bans but lets you keep your mythic, any saved alex etc.
(Yes this still annoys me to this day but I see why SE won't perma ban people......)
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By lhova 2014-12-27 21:07:03
Exploit a glitch in Salvage reducing anyone else long arduous journey to a meaningless en-devour and get all your alex and assaults done in 3 days.
and then take a 3 day holiday when SE temp bans but lets you keep your mythic, any saved alex etc.
(Yes this still annoys me to this day but I see why SE won't perma ban people......)
Seriously?
By lhova 2014-12-27 21:57:39
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Exploit a glitch in Salvage reducing anyone else long arduous journey to a meaningless en-devour and get all your alex and assaults done in 3 days.
and then take a 3 day holiday when SE temp bans but lets you keep your mythic, any saved alex etc.
(Yes this still annoys me to this day but I see why SE won't perma ban people......)
Seriously? Yes, seriously. I thought about firing up a new account specifically to exploit it. Easily, in sparks gear and 2 days effort, start making 1000+ alex a day, till they catch you. I'd love to finish every mythic by the end of 2016. Not QUITE that ambitious though.
Damn, I assume you can only do it on pc?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-27 22:03:07
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Exploit a glitch in Salvage reducing anyone else long arduous journey to a meaningless en-devour and get all your alex and assaults done in 3 days.
and then take a 3 day holiday when SE temp bans but lets you keep your mythic, any saved alex etc.
(Yes this still annoys me to this day but I see why SE won't perma ban people......)
Seriously? Yes, seriously. I thought about firing up a new account specifically to exploit it. Easily, in sparks gear and 2 days effort, start making 1000+ alex a day, till they catch you. I'd love to finish every mythic by the end of 2016. Not QUITE that ambitious though.
Damn, I assume you can only do it on pc?
Basically. They nerfed that Fast way for 3k, best you could do is 450 but meh.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-27 22:11:42
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »Exploit a glitch in Salvage reducing anyone else long arduous journey to a meaningless en-devour and get all your alex and assaults done in 3 days.
and then take a 3 day holiday when SE temp bans but lets you keep your mythic, any saved alex etc.
(Yes this still annoys me to this day but I see why SE won't perma ban people......)
Seriously? Yes, seriously. I thought about firing up a new account specifically to exploit it. Easily, in sparks gear and 2 days effort, start making 1000+ alex a day, till they catch you. I'd love to finish every mythic by the end of 2016. Not QUITE that ambitious though.
Damn, I assume you can only do it on pc?
Basically. They nerfed that Fast way for 3k, best you could do is 450 but meh.
Not true. Just because someone tells you it's fixed, doesn't mean it's true. There are (let's say) "alternate" means. Not going to teach a course in how to hack salvage, sorry.
I'd rather not know in all honesty.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-12-27 22:24:39
tldr; clippering between floors is now hacking
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2014-12-27 22:30:28
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »tldr; clippering between floors is now hacking
no ***huh never would have guessed.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-27 22:31:21
Bahamut.Seekerstar said: »Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »tldr; clippering between floors is now hacking
no ***huh never would have guessed.
Technically it isn't hacking.
It's a cheat but it's not strictly speaking a hack.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Taberif 2014-12-27 22:34:26
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »tldr; clippering between floors is now hacking I'm pretty sure you trying to take a stab at someones intelligence in previous posts but...im also pretty sure I would consider circumventing the built in limitations of the game to be hacking as well. Just because you use a nice GUI in a third party tool doesnt really change my opinion of that.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-12-27 22:34:58
not sure if he's just being his usual condescending self or not, but you can still repop salv1 bosses or essentially any floor besides a salv2 boss the same way.. probably is still a way to repop salv2 bosses just not the same way you're thinking
Quote: I'm pretty sure you trying to take a stab at someones intelligence in previous posts but...im also pretty sure I would consider circumventing the built in limitations of the game to be hacking as well. Just because you use a nice GUI in a third party tool doesnt really change my opinion of that. i'm not arguing the legitimacy, i'd love to see it patched properly
but calling it hacking for anyone besides the person who wrote the first clipper is pretty lofty speak for such a basic action
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-27 22:36:02
Go try it yourself if you dont' want to take anyone's word for it. It was fixed before they handed out the (temp) bans. Naw, I rather let some fool try it and get banned for it than to do it myself.
That way, I can still profit from them (cheap alex) while they get their account deleted (or temporarily lose access to it, which is more likely).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-12-27 22:36:19
It's just comeatmecocksucker being his usual dbag self, nothing new to see here.
hackisahackisahack. regardless of what you call it.
But since he's the one that gave it out, no one has to ask me about it anymore~
Leviathan.Kaparu
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-12-27 22:44:33
You don't seem to understand what he's getting at
He's not running a PR campaign for clipping, he's pointing out that referring to your usage of a very user friendly, very widespread cheating device as hacking is more than a little self indulgent
Unrelated: Are you twelve? Did you really just dig "***" out of the pejorative time capsule?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-27 22:45:53
oh it's this again
windower is technically hacking too if we want to use that nomenclature. have i blown your minds?
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By lhova 2014-12-27 22:46:03
Well I guess Xbox users can't do it so dafuq lol
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-12-27 22:51:23
Valefor.Prothescar said: »oh it's this again
windower is technically hacking too if we want to use that nomenclature. have i blown your minds?
I don't think anyone's attempting to draw lines in the morality sand, I just think actual hackers deserve better than to have their learned shenanigans reduced to, "and here's where I turned on the Do Whatever I Want button"
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-12-27 22:58:34
oh no im on your side here, it's just if someone wants to call clipper and other downloadable cheats a hack, then they should include anything that tampers with game data in any way whatsoever since that's what all of them do. calling each individual user of a 3rd party tool a "hacker" is pretty dumb.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-27 22:58:42
Valefor.Prothescar said: »oh it's this again
windower is technically hacking too if we want to use that nomenclature. have i blown your minds?
I don't think anyone's attempting to draw lines in the morality sand, I just think actual hackers deserve better than to have their learned shenanigans reduced to, "and here's where I turned on the Do Whatever I Want button"
Not to say that legitimate "hacks" don't require a decent amount of knowledge and technical skills, but you phrase it as such that people should be praised for exploiting weaknesses. Using a tool someone else developed and developing your own aren't on different levels in the realm of what you gain from exploiting the weakness. I don't think you meant to claim moral highground or anything.
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By Bahamut.Seekerstar 2014-12-27 23:03:12
I'm just pretty sure that the OP meant means that could not result in a possible ban/suspension.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2014-12-27 23:07:13
Well, OP is looking at about 40 Einherjar T3 runs (may be able to solo with their BLM), ~65 assaults, and something between 241 days of Salvage farming and ~200mil.
The upside is that it's all soloable. The downside is that it's mostly controlled by daily lockouts and you're probably going to want to farm about 3mil/day so you finish that goal at the same time as everything else. Any extra gil you farm past that point won't really finish you faster due to the assault tag limitations.
3mil per day is doing Salvage, Dynamis, and making a little gil on the side (<500k/day probably).
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-12-27 23:13:48
Valefor.Prothescar said: »oh it's this again
windower is technically hacking too if we want to use that nomenclature. have i blown your minds?
I don't think anyone's attempting to draw lines in the morality sand, I just think actual hackers deserve better than to have their learned shenanigans reduced to, "and here's where I turned on the Do Whatever I Want button"
Not to say that legitimate "hacks" don't require a decent amount of knowledge and technical skills, but you phrase it as such that people should be praised for exploiting weaknesses. Using a tool someone else developed and developing your own aren't on different levels in the realm of what you gain from exploiting the weakness. I don't think you meant to claim moral highground or anything.
I mean, cheaters are cheaters are cheaters. You either care or you don't. But that's beside the point: my one and only thought on the matter is that, for instance, when referring to yourself as a hacker when in reality you're using something more navigable than a universal remote, you're giving yourself entirely too much technical credit
Nothing more, nothing less. I couldn't give a lick about any subsequent discussion of morality with regard to cheating in this game
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By lhova 2014-12-27 23:18:23
Well, OP is looking at about 40 Einherjar T3 runs (may be able to solo with their BLM), ~65 assaults, and something between 241 days of Salvage farming and ~200mil.
The upside is that it's all soloable. The downside is that it's mostly controlled by daily lockouts and you're probably going to want to farm about 3mil/day so you finish that goal at the same time as everything else. Any extra gil you farm past that point won't really finish you faster due to the assault tag limitations.
3mil per day is doing Salvage, Dynamis, and making a little gil on the side (<500k/day probably).
3mil a day would finish me in how long?
Hi all,
Well hopefully Tuesday I should have my Captains rank and at the beginning of my quest towards a mythic. My question is what is the best way to accomplish this task (without being uber rich). I'm quite comfortable farming salvage (currently doing it everyday and recently started keeping my alexs instead of selling). I don't have any experience with Zeni or any of that and i'm currently 1100/30000 alexs, 22,000 of 100,000 Ichor and 20,000 of the 150,000 tokens. I'm not sure if I should try farming the ZNM and scoria while I get the other stuff or if that was even possible. I use to farm Dyna for currency but it sells really slow now so I probably need another decent gil source to help with the alexs or this is going to take forever. Just curious how peeps were able to finish thier mythics off and how they grinded it out. Thanks!
Also no mule access for additional Salvage runs, etc. I play on xbox (i know PC or die)
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