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By Bloodrose 2015-08-24 23:13:12
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Odin.Jassik said: »
This is why we can't have nice things....
I thought we couldn't have nice things because they were made in china.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-24 23:20:03
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I like this wasteland of "muck and gloop" and opposing the throat stabbing trollberry inhabitants. Come visit PnR and bring some truth and light to this place so maybe it won't stay so bad :P
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-08-24 23:22:56
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Valefor.Endoq said: »
I like this wasteland of "muck and gloop" and opposing the throat stabbing trollberry inhabitants. Come visit PnR and bring some truth and light to this place so maybe it won't stay so bad :P

More cat pictures, or just get the Rookstator to move the lolpics into P&R to give it some respectability.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-24 23:24:45
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Odin.Jassik said: »
More cat pictures, or just get the Rookstator to move the lolpics into P&R to give it some respectability.
When cats take over this could be relevant to PnR...
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-08-24 23:26:55
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Valefor.Endoq said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
More cat pictures, or just get the Rookstator to move the lolpics into P&R to give it some respectability.
When cats take over this could be relevant to PnR...

Cats were worshipped by the Egyptians. That's our loophole to get them in here!
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By Bloodrose 2015-08-24 23:28:03
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Cats are also seen across the world as arbiters of fortune - good and bad (religious aspect number 2)
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By Drama Torama 2015-08-24 23:30:58
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You guys are overthinking this, bringing cats in here is trivial.

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 02:47:30
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Drama Torama said: »
You guys are overthinking this, bringing cats in here is trivial.

Well that's clears things up... wait no it doesn't I think that only thickens the plot.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-08-25 02:47:59
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Drama Torama said: »
You guys are overthinking this, bringing cats in here is trivial.

This is proof of a secret nuclear arms deal with the cats!

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By charlo999 2015-08-25 04:42:12
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It looks like the economic crisis is gaining speed as UK market loses 10% of it value and billions in pensions are wiped out. The inevitable is gaining speed and the people have nothing left to prop it up by. Any forced interventions are not gonna go down well this time around.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-08-25 06:50:51
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It looks like the economic crisis is gaining speed as UK market loses 10% of it value and billions in pensions are wiped out. The inevitable is gaining speed and the people have nothing left to prop it up by. Any forced interventions are not gonna go down well this time around.
It's called a "market correction" and it has more to do about China's inflated economy than anything.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-08-25 09:21:59
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
charlo999 said: »
It looks like the economic crisis is gaining speed as UK market loses 10% of it value and billions in pensions are wiped out. The inevitable is gaining speed and the people have nothing left to prop it up by. Any forced interventions are not gonna go down well this time around.
It's called a "market correction" and it has more to do about China's inflated economy than anything.
It has a lot to do with automated high speed trading as well.
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 09:54:57
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I'm not a hedge fund manager but when I post on FFXI I certainly am !
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 09:55:12
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It's all manipulated with junk bonds you can't win !

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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:03:00
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Odin.Jassik said: »
This is why we can't have nice things....
I thought we couldn't have nice things because they were made in china.

Don't worry China will inflate their economy (quantitative easing) so you can buy your American flag made in China !


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-09/quantitative-easing-with-chinese-characteristics-takes-shape

China’s leaders are increasingly relying on the central bank to help implement government programs aimed at shoring up growth, in an adaptation of the quantitative easing policies executed by counterparts abroad.

Rather than bankroll projects directly, the People’s Bank of China is pumping funds into state lenders known as policy banks to finance government-backed programs. Instead of buying shares to prop up a faltering stock market, it’s aiding a government fund that’s seeking to stabilize prices. And instead of purchasing municipal bonds in the market, it’s accepting such notes as collateral and encouraging banks to buy the debt.

QE -- a monetary policy tool first deployed in modern times by Japan a decade and a half ago and since adopted by the U.S. and Europe -- is being echoed in China as Premier Li Keqiang seeks to cushion a slowdown without full-blooded monetary easing that would risk spurring yet another debt surge. While the official line is a firm “no” to Federal Reserve-style QE, the PBOC is using its balance sheet as a backstop rather than a checkbook in efforts to target stimulus toward the real economy.

“It’s Chinese-style quantitative easing,” said Shen Jianguang, chief Asia economist at Mizuho Securities Asia Ltd. in Hong Kong. “But it’s not a direct central bank asset-purchase plan. China’s easing is indirect and more subtle compared with the U.S. or Japan.”
Exports, Inflation

Weekend data underscored the need for policy support. Producer price deflation deepened last month while consumer inflation remains about half the central bank’s target of 3 percent for this year. Exports declined more than economists expected in July, hobbled by a strong yuan and lower demand from the European Union.

China’s stocks surged the most in a month, with the Shanghai Composite Index gaining 4.9 percent.

The local government debt swap and recapitalization of policy lenders can help to address “clogged liquidity flows” to channel funds from the interbank system to economic activity on the ground, Macquarie Capital Securities Ltd. economists Larry Hu and Jerry Peng wrote in a note.

While policy lenders can’t replace a properly functioning financial market, the moves can “help fund infrastructure investment to support growth” over the next three to six months to help drive “a U-shaped recovery,” they added.
Stimulus Program

While there’s been no public unveiling of the strategy, China’s leaders are putting in place plans for the central bank to finance, indirectly, a fiscal stimulus program to put a floor under the nation’s slowdown. China will sell “special” financial bonds worth trillions of yuan to fund construction projects, and the PBOC will provide funds to state banks to buy the bonds, people familiar with the matter said this month.

China Development Bank Corp. and the Agricultural Development Bank of China -- known as policy banks because they carry out government objectives -- will issue bonds, people told Bloomberg earlier. The Postal Savings Bank of China will buy the debt, aided by liquidity from the central bank, according to one of the people.

It’s unclear whether by taking on bonds as collateral and delivering cash in return the PBOC’s official balance sheet will expand. In the U.S., the euro region and Japan, central banks have bought securities outright in secondary markets, making the quantitative easing transparent on their books.
Indirect Financing

By contrast, China’s current leaders, who took power in 2012, are opting for indirect financing -- a strategy that also prevents the central government’s debt burden from rising. A record credit expansion unleashed in 2008 during the global crisis is seen as having left the economy with excessive borrowing that’s now being restructured.

A lot of the credit growth unleashed ended up being spent on already existing assets, meaning it didn’t directly add to gross domestic product. After wrestling with that problem since about 2012, the central bank is stepping up ways to target credit so it’s steered toward newly produced goods and services, said Simon Cox, Asia-Pacific investment strategist at BNY Mellon Investment Management in Hong Kong.

“China is trying to channel the lending towards something that will have more stimulative oomph,” Cox said. “If that happens to be a public good that is in short supply, then that’s great, but first and foremost, let’s get it into the real economy.”
Policy Options

The PBOC still has more options that the Fed or Bank of Japan, which adopted unconventional easing when interest rates were close to zero. China’s one-year benchmark lending rate is 4.85 percent, and the required reserve ratio for the biggest banks remains at 18.5 percent, among the world’s highest even after a series of reductions.

In its second quarter monetary policy report published Friday, the PBOC reiterated it would stick to a “prudent” policy stance and use “various monetary policy tools” to manage liquidity and credit.

“China is not in a crisis mode, and it’s not necessary for the central bank to intervene too much,” said Li Wei, China economist for Commonwealth Bank of Australia in Sydney. “By definition, China has not started QE as the PBOC’s balance sheet isn’t expanding.”

China’s government under Li has repeatedly said it wouldn’t opt for a big stimulus plan and would keep a “prudent” monetary policy stance. Still, Li is seeking to shore up growth amid fresh signs the economy is lagging the official target of about 7 percent for this year.

“It’s not an all-out QE as the Fed’s was, but there are increasing signs of a QE program,” said Chen Xingdong, chief China economist and head of macro-economics research at BNP Paribas SA in Beijing. Chen said the PBOC was now opening the door to borrowers, but hasn’t reached the stage of “forcefully flooding the market with money.”
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:07:48
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TLDR above:


To summarize if for those of you that went to public school. China's economy is artificially inflated. Just like Obama's ego !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 10:16:04
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fonewear said: »
“It’s Chinese-style quantitative easing”
Sounds good to me.
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:18:57
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
fonewear said: »
“It’s Chinese-style quantitative easing”
Sounds good to me.

They removed the MSG from their quantitative easing it's better for you !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 10:19:39
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The People's Quantitative Easing
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:20:52
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Current headline in the state run media's reads:

Everything is okay go back to making iPhones for Americans !
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:22:31
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Okay so foxconn is in Taiwan but it's Asian so that's close enough !
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:25:07
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Drama Torama said: »
You guys are overthinking this, bringing cats in here is trivial.

Well that's clears things up... wait no it doesn't I think that only thickens the plot.

Cat is telling him I'll agree to the nuclear deal if you rub my belly !

That cat has diplomatic immunity !
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:27:52
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Here's video proof:

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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:35:09
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Turns out Obama was in the Jefferson's !




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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 10:37:04
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I was actually watching some crossover episodes of the Jefferson and All in the Family before. I forgot how funny those shows were.
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By Jetackuu 2015-08-25 10:37:39
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Shut it Meathead.

joke, of course
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:39:32
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I was actually watching some crossover episodes of the Jefferson and All in the Family before. I forgot how funny those shows were.

The 70's had some great TV. Then reality TV happened...

Jefferson's MASH All in the Family etc.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 10:43:10
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There was a great episode in which Archie and Edith visit the Jeffersons cause their son is getting married. It's then revealed that the daughter has a black mother and a white father. Enter the lulz.
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By fonewear 2015-08-25 10:43:32
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Everything now is politically correct so TV shows don't push boundaries. At least not on cable.

I'll be damned if I have to pay for HBO Showtime etc.

I had HBO for 3 months. It is not worth the money.


Bunch of D level movies running 24/7.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-08-25 10:44:56
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Showtime might have been worth the money a few years ago, not sure about today. But HBO was never worth it imo. They used to give it away for free a lot too.
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