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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 18:31:59
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!")
Isn't the real problem that you're jealous that he's getting down and you're not?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:33:41
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!")
Isn't the real problem that you're jealous that he's getting down and you're not? You are making zero sense, you know that, right?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 18:34:19
So you're going with Nausi's argument, lol.
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 18:36:49
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!") Can't someone else take responsibility for my actions?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 18:39:07
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!")
Isn't the real problem that you're jealous that he's getting down and you're not? You are making zero sense, you know that, right?
It makes perfect sense, condemn someone's actions because you're envious. Basic psychology, bubba.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-12 18:40:23
Ragnarok.Overdragon said: »The biggest problem with liberals is that everything they believe eventually begins with blaming ppl for most things that are far beyond our control and then they base their complaints on a feeling of shame/superiority.
Case in point. (Global warming,climate change, etc). They blame the successful of anyone for damaging the earth and presume to know how to fix a problem that their own scientists call a religion. They are so short sighted and gullible.
The easiest way to deal with them is to take the subject to its logical end. At that point emotions are completely out of it. Fact, = facts and facts will stand.
Conservative think beyond the emotion and see it to the end. Taking into account how it will effect/affect others as it moves onward.
Liberals think of the immediate problem and tries to deal it, regardless of the collateral damage that will follow. Buy hey, the feel like they done something. Success doesn't matter. Only the good feeling do.
Three posts in and already legendary stupidity.
I have my own criticism of the Global Warming stuff, and heavy criticism of the groups who call themselves liberals (Fact: American Liberals are not Liberal at all) but when you say ***like "Science = Religion" you are just so clearly up your own *** that A great Adventure is waiting for you a head, hurry onward Lemmiwkinks or you will soon be dead.
At least I think that's what you said... Every time I read it, it makes half as much sense. Punctuation and spell check exist for a reason.
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By Ragnarok.Overdragon 2014-06-12 18:43:22
I must struck a nerve.
Liberal stratagem 101: when faced with a truth that too hard to deal with. Move to racism and personal attacks. Then change the subject as fast as possible.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:43:44
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi. Do you choose to be attracted to a man? No.
Do you choose to go out with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to have sex with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to be married to another man? Yes.
Does being gay mean that you are only attracted to a specific person? Not really. Why? Because being attracted requires no action. Being gay requires action being taken place.
I'm attracted to several women in my office. I don't go after them because I don't wish to engage in that type of relationship with them. One of them has shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me, but I still choose to not engage in that relationship.
One guy in my firm also shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me. That doesn't make me gay.
Being attracted to somebody doesn't automatically mean that you are straight or gay. Taking the next step is what defines your sexual preference. Action requires action.
Or are you going to say that action still requires inaction? Because that is your only argument.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:45:18
I thought we actually came to an understanding in the other thread that being gay is not a choice You still choose to sleep with people of the same sex.
Or are you going to say that you are being forced to be gay?
Which explains a lot of how you want to take personal responsibility out of everyone's hands (give them an excuse of "I didn't do it, Bill Nye made me do it!")
Isn't the real problem that you're jealous that he's getting down and you're not? You are making zero sense, you know that, right?
It makes perfect sense, condemn someone's actions because you're envious. Basic psychology, bubba. A) I don't know who I'm supposed to be jealous about.
B) I don't give a rat's *** about anyone.
C) How can I be jealous about somebody I don't even know if I don't give a rat's *** about them in the first place?
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By Odin.Minefield 2014-06-12 18:46:35
Rats have feelings too :c
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 18:49:06
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi. Do you choose to be attracted to a man? No.
Do you choose to go out with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to have sex with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to be married to another man? Yes.
Does being gay mean that you are only attracted to a specific person? Not really. Why? Because being attracted requires no action. Being gay requires action being taken place.
I'm attracted to several women in my office. I don't go after them because I don't wish to engage in that type of relationship with them. One of them has shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me, but I still choose to not engage in that relationship.
One guy in my firm also shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me. That doesn't make me gay.
Being attracted to somebody doesn't automatically mean that you are straight or gay. Taking the next step is what defines your sexual preference. Action requires action.
Or are you going to say that action still requires inaction? Because that is your only argument.
Do you chose to need air? no
Do you chose to breathe? yes
Nice try, though.
Ragnarok.Overdragon said: »I must struck a nerve.
Liberal stratagem 101: when faced with a truth that too hard to deal with. Move to racism and personal attacks. Then change the subject as fast as possible.
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1. not a liberal
2. you made broad statements with absolutely no credibility after starting your post with "the problem with liberals..."
Get off your soapbox, you're not a conservative, you're a moron.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 18:49:17
You basically agreed with me then tacked on some ridiculous stipulation. I'm not having sex right this moment. Guess what? Still gay.
Take that woman up on her offer. Maybe it'll chill you the *** out.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:53:46
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi. Do you choose to be attracted to a man? No.
Do you choose to go out with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to have sex with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to be married to another man? Yes.
Does being gay mean that you are only attracted to a specific person? Not really. Why? Because being attracted requires no action. Being gay requires action being taken place.
I'm attracted to several women in my office. I don't go after them because I don't wish to engage in that type of relationship with them. One of them has shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me, but I still choose to not engage in that relationship.
One guy in my firm also shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me. That doesn't make me gay.
Being attracted to somebody doesn't automatically mean that you are straight or gay. Taking the next step is what defines your sexual preference. Action requires action.
Or are you going to say that action still requires inaction? Because that is your only argument.
Do you chose to need air? no
Do you chose to breathe? yes
Nice try, though. Incorrect, you do not choose to do an involuntary action.
But if you still think you have the choice of breathing, why not prove it to us. Use any means necessary to prevent yourself from doing an involuntary action.
You basically agreed with me then tacked on some ridiculous stipulation. I'm not having sex right this moment. Guess what? Still gay.
Take that woman up on her offer. Maybe it'll chill you the *** out. Are you going out with a man right now? Are you in a relationship with him as I type?
Did you choose to go out with him?
Maybe you will see my point (I highly doubt it, it requires critical thinking, which you have shown you lack).
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 18:55:44
So the argument is that sex = breathing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 18:57:52
So the argument is that sex = breathing. to some people, especially those who profess knowledge to science too.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-12 18:58:54
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi. Do you choose to be attracted to a man? No.
Do you choose to go out with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to have sex with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to be married to another man? Yes.
Does being gay mean that you are only attracted to a specific person? Not really. Why? Because being attracted requires no action. Being gay requires action being taken place.
I'm attracted to several women in my office. I don't go after them because I don't wish to engage in that type of relationship with them. One of them has shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me, but I still choose to not engage in that relationship.
One guy in my firm also shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me. That doesn't make me gay.
Being attracted to somebody doesn't automatically mean that you are straight or gay. Taking the next step is what defines your sexual preference. Action requires action.
Or are you going to say that action still requires inaction? Because that is your only argument.
Do you chose to need air? no
Do you chose to breathe? yes
Nice try, though. Incorrect, you do not choose to do an involuntary action.
But if you still think you have the choice of breathing, why not prove it to us. Use any means necessary to prevent yourself from doing an involuntary action.
Your logic is infallible. Breathing isn't involuntary, it's autonomic, you can absolutely chose not to breathe. Your heart beating is involuntary. Sex is basically autonomic for almost every animal that reproduces sexually, humans are about the only creature that attempts to control it.
You're still completely wrong about something that is window licking simple.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 19:00:11
So the argument is that sex = breathing. to some people, especially those who profess knowledge to science too. That's a tough one to wrap my head around. In order to live or survive sexual intercourse is a necessary function much like breathing.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 19:00:19
I can't tell if you're moving the goalposts or if you just honestly have no idea what you're arguing. The only "requirement" for being homosexual is an innate attraction to the same sex. This is not a difficult concept.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-06-12 19:00:28
Why don't the anti-homosexuality peeps quit dancing around the discussion and just throw out your religion as the reason you believe its wrong. At least you'd be honest instead of a bunch of limp-wristed cowards. All the evidence in the world isn't going to change your position so why even bother? You refuse to listen to reason and continue to waste everyones time on ***.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 19:00:32
I choose to have sex (although the compulsion is strong so I dunno if it's much of a choice). I do not choose who to be attracted to. Did you choose to be attracted to women? No. This is what "It is not a choice" is referring to. Don't be dense. Don't be Nausi. Do you choose to be attracted to a man? No.
Do you choose to go out with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to have sex with a man? Yes.
Do you choose to be married to another man? Yes.
Does being gay mean that you are only attracted to a specific person? Not really. Why? Because being attracted requires no action. Being gay requires action being taken place.
I'm attracted to several women in my office. I don't go after them because I don't wish to engage in that type of relationship with them. One of them has shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me, but I still choose to not engage in that relationship.
One guy in my firm also shown interest in engaging in that type of relationship with me. That doesn't make me gay.
Being attracted to somebody doesn't automatically mean that you are straight or gay. Taking the next step is what defines your sexual preference. Action requires action.
Or are you going to say that action still requires inaction? Because that is your only argument.
Do you chose to need air? no
Do you chose to breathe? yes
Nice try, though. Incorrect, you do not choose to do an involuntary action.
But if you still think you have the choice of breathing, why not prove it to us. Use any means necessary to prevent yourself from doing an involuntary action.
Your logic is infallible. Breathing isn't involuntary, it's autonomic, you can absolutely chose not to breathe. Your heart beating is involuntary. Sex is basically autonomic for almost every animal that reproduces sexually, humans are about the only creature that attempts to control it.
You're still completely wrong about something that is window licking simple. Prove that breathing isn't involuntary then.
Stop breathing for 10 minutes straight and get back with us with your report.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-12 19:01:23
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Why don't the anti-homosexuality peeps quit dancing around the discussion and just throw out your religion as the reason you believe its wrong. At least you'd be honest instead of a bunch of limp-wristed cowards. All the evidence in the world isn't going to change your position so why even bother? You refuse to listen to reason and continue to waste everyones time on ***. You going to take that Pleebo?
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By Ragnarok.Overdragon 2014-06-12 19:03:04
Thanks. You have proved my point and the sad thing is everyone (including you) knows that I'm right on target.
Global warming is not science. Most thinking ppl know that. Global warming is purely political.
Liberal or conservative doesn't matter. Truth = Truth.
Sleep well friends. ^^
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-12 19:04:47
This thread would be great for Fallacy Bingo.
Let's all play.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-06-12 19:05:10
You going to take that Pleebo? ... yes?
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 19:08:12
I may have laughed a little preemptively. Was I just called religious?
By fonewear 2014-06-12 19:08:16
I thought I was in the RT thread but realized there was no anime.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-12 19:08:51
You guys definitely crack me up, but that's a new one.
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By fonewear 2014-06-12 19:09:11
So the argument is that sex = breathing. to some people, especially those who profess knowledge to science too. That's a tough one to wrap my head around. In order to live or survive sexual intercourse is a necessary function much like breathing.
Are you Elliot Rodger ?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-06-12 19:10:43
Ragnarok.Overdragon said: »Thanks. You have proved my point and the sad thing is everyone (including you) knows that I'm right on target.
Global warming is not science. Most thinking ppl know that. Global warming is purely political.
Liberal or conservative doesn't matter. Truth = Truth.
Sleep well friends. ^^
Wow, the old "I got the last word" card. That's some vintage forum dumbassery right there. Bravo.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-06-12 19:14:44
Physics is not science. Most thinking people know that. Physics is purely political.
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