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Random Politics & Religion #00
Serveur: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-07-17 12:34:36
Anyone else in favor of a war tax? Money levied across the entire population to fund our wars and strict rules set in place to only spend that money on said war.
I'm down. Make it a progressive tax and reinstate the draft.
Bismarck.Leneth
Serveur: Bismarck
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2015-07-17 12:35:31
In my opinion the best way to stop ISIS is to break them apart.
ISIS consists of 3 big Groups.
1. Arabic people recruited and trained in the region
2. Locals in Iraq and Syria who are forced by their Clan chiefs
3. Europeans recruited in Europe and trained in the Arabic training camps.
Break #2 apart with proper politics in Iraq welcoming all religions and Clan structures. (Money)
Break #3 apart with Imams trained in Europe supported by religous figurheads in the arabic region. So we do not have the few idiot Imams who get a cultural heart attack once they arrive in Europe and let it out at our youth. Imams providing a proper friday prayer in prisons would do wonders as well looking at the usual recruitment ways. (Needs Money as well)
No need for foreign armies when #1 is all on its own.
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Bahamut.Kara
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By Bahamut.Kara 2015-07-17 12:35:42
Anyone else in favor of a war tax? Money levied across the entire population to fund our wars and strict rules set in place to only spend that money on said war. How about war bonds?
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-17 12:36:12
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Where ISIS reigns, no nations need to exist at all. Most of them do not want the imaginary borders that the West has on their maps anyway.
The region will always be poor. The World cannot dump enough money into regions of the world with horrible climates void of resources besides narcotics and oil.
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-17 12:36:19
Anyone else in favor of a war tax? Money levied across the entire population to fund our wars and strict rules set in place to only spend that money on said war. How about war bonds?
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Siren.Mosin
Serveur: Siren
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-07-17 12:36:47
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »resources besides narcotics and oil.
the nations I could build on oil & opium....
it would be downright easy.
Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-07-17 12:37:03
Anyone else in favor of a war tax? Money levied across the entire population to fund our wars and strict rules set in place to only spend that money on said war. No. What you are looking for are War Bonds.
Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-07-17 12:38:19
Gah, seriously? I took about 30 seconds to get and make that link, and BAM! One-upped by the one-handed typist.
Serveur: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-07-17 12:39:44
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »resources besides narcotics and oil.
the nations I could build on oil & opium....
it would be downright easy.
Yeah, that's what the rich say in those countries.
The problem is the poor see no way out of their plight so they turn to radicalization and murder in the name of their God. Muslims ain't any different from other people. Give them a reason to live, stability, opportunity and $$$$ and you'll see how quick Allah turns from death god to a brand of sweets.
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Serveur: Shiva
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-07-17 12:40:16
Iraq is a disaster because thats what it chose to be, should they ever choose to be wealthy, it could happen overnight.
yeah vic they voted on it in a referendum.... >.>
Hedonistic Utopia
Catastrophic Disaster
Catastrophic Disaster won by a landslide...caused by an ied
Siren.Mosin
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-07-17 12:40:26
yeah that's what I said....
did I miss something?
Serveur: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-07-17 12:42:29
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Where ISIS reigns, no nations need to exist at all. Most of them do not want the imaginary borders that the West has on their maps anyway.
The region will always be poor. The World cannot dump enough money into regions of the world with horrible climates void of resources besides narcotics and oil.
Wow lol. I like how you just dismiss resources like oil so casually. There is no reason for Iraq, Iran, or Saudi Arabia to be poor, oh wait, Saudi Arabia isn't poor! Iraq is a disaster because thats what it chose to be, should they ever choose to be wealthy, it could happen overnight. That region is far from poor, you are just not informed, as usual.
I don't dismiss oil, but I have no faith in the World liberating itself from the Middle supply so long as psychotic environmentalists particularly in America refuse to let us use our own resources.
Oh yeah, I guess I should throw in a taunt at you right at the end of this post.
***.
Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-07-17 12:43:08
yeah that's what I said....
did I miss something? Not sure, but given the choice between Hedonistic Disaster and Catastrophic Utopia, I'd probably pick Hedonistic Disaster.
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By Jetackuu 2015-07-17 12:43:38
I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem (that is needed for us to survive) are the psychotic ones.
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-17 12:44:25
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »psychotic environmentalists We need to move away from oil, not to more of it.
***.
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Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-07-17 12:44:34
And Hedonistic Disasterâ„¢ would be an awesome name for a tequila.
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Serveur: Shiva
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-07-17 12:44:40
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I don't dismiss oil, but I have no faith in the World liberating itself from the Middle supply so long as psychotic environmentalists particularly in America refuse to let us use our own resources.
Oh yeah, I guess I should throw in a taunt at you right at the end of this post.
***. Your "faith" does not change the fact that the Middle East is far from a poor region and your "plan" has no basis in reality.
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Serveur: Phoenix
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-07-17 12:45:20
I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem that is needed for us to survive are the psychotic ones.
irrational fear
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-07-17 12:46:10
And now I'm motivated to shoot and direct a porn parodying the fracking debate.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-07-17 12:46:26
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I don't dismiss oil, but I have no faith in the World liberating itself from the Middle supply so long as psychotic environmentalists particularly in America refuse to let us use our own resources.
Oh yeah, I guess I should throw in a taunt at you right at the end of this post.
***. Your "faith" does not change the fact that the Middle East is far from a poor region and your "plan" has no basis in reality.
If the world no longer needed Middle East oil would they still be far from poor?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-07-17 12:46:39
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem that is needed for us to survive are the psychotic ones.
irrational fear
So you're ok with nuclear energy then?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-07-17 12:46:51
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »And now I'm motivated to shoot and direct a porn parodying the fracking debate.
you can get Matt Damon no doubt
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-07-17 12:47:09
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem that is needed for us to survive are the psychotic ones.
irrational fear
So you're ok with nuclear energy then?
yes
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By Ramyrez 2015-07-17 12:47:14
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Where ISIS reigns, no nations need to exist at all. Most of them do not want the imaginary borders that the West has on their maps anyway.
The region will always be poor. The World cannot dump enough money into regions of the world with horrible climates void of resources besides narcotics and oil.
Wow lol. I like how you just dismiss resources like oil so casually. There is no reason for Iraq, Iran, or Saudi Arabia to be poor, oh wait, Saudi Arabia isn't poor! Iraq is a disaster because thats what it chose to be, should they ever choose to be wealthy, it could happen overnight. That region is far from poor, you are just not informed, as usual.
I don't dismiss oil, but I have no faith in the World liberating itself from the Middle supply so long as psychotic environmentalists particularly in America refuse to let us use our own resources.
Oh yeah, I guess I should throw in a taunt at you right at the end of this post.
***.
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »psychotic environmentalists We need to move away from oil, not to more of it.
***. +s for both of you.
"Requisite dig" should be a new thing at the end of posts.
Here's mine.
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Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-07-17 12:47:14
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »irrational fear Golden coming from a conservative.
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Bahamut.Milamber
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-07-17 12:47:20
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2015-07-17 12:47:52
Anyone else in favor of a war tax? Money levied across the entire population to fund our wars and strict rules set in place to only spend that money on said war. How about war bonds? The problem with bonds is that the government is still on the hook for that cash with added interest just at a later date.
I also wonder if a tax was instated how it would affect the general populous' support for the wars we wage and how it would affect politician's positions.
By Ramyrez 2015-07-17 12:47:56
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »And now I'm motivated to shoot and direct a porn parodying the fracking debate.
Please shoot it in Pennsylvania. We need the money as these fracking companies are not providing the income they swear they're providing.
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Serveur: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-07-17 12:48:20
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem that is needed for us to survive are the psychotic ones.
irrational fear
So you're ok with nuclear energy then?
yes
Woah, so am I.
Let the internets hear that me and Aman agree on something. And now back to our regularly scheduled ***tossing.
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By Jetackuu 2015-07-17 12:49:01
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »I like how the guys who don't want us to destroy our ecosystem that is needed for us to survive are the psychotic ones.
irrational fear Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
ha.
heh.
/wipes tear.
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