Random Politics & Religion #00
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Random Politics & Religion #00
Still not sure what the point of banning Altima is if he is allowed to come back with a million accounts anyway.
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So let me get this straight, liberal professor says his liberal students scare him, but liberalism is not the culprit, it's entitlement?
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...and predictably Ramy sticks his fingers in his ears.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So let me get this straight, liberal professor says his liberal students scare him, but liberalism is not the culprit, it's entitlement? In the course of a couple of posts, they have rationalized the dissonance with their own ideology and projected it onto their opponents. <mental disorder>
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So let me get this straight, liberal professor says his liberal students scare him, but liberalism is not the culprit, it's entitlement? I think it's a misnomer to say it's "liberal" students. Especially given his own anecdote references someone who is clearly "conservative". I suppose if you want to get rather broad with defining "liberalism", then fine. Call it that, I really don't give a *** what you call it. But it's not a "left vs. right" issue I guess is my point, and arguing semantics about things is just stupid. Conservatives crank out as many entitled, bratty kids as liberals. And conservatives are defnitely the more overbearing "this is not my child's fault, it's someone else's" in my experience. Ramyrez said: » Cerberus.Laconic said: » So you do not agree liberal policy enables this behavior? "Policy" enables this behavior. It's been across the board for decades. Everyone sues and takes everyone to court over everything. And frankly, no. In this particular instance, this is not a liberal policy. A liberal policy would allow a professor to teach as intended, and to defend himself against baseless accusations of entitled students. Corporate culture bleeding into academia causes this, where the student is the customer, so they get their way because they're the ones paying. Did you even read the article? Quote: In 2015, such a complaint would not be delivered in such a fashion. Instead of focusing on the rightness or wrongness (or even acceptability) of the materials we reviewed in class, the complaint would center solely on how my teaching affected the student's emotional state. As I cannot speak to the emotions of my students, I could not mount a defense about the acceptability of my instruction. And if I responded in any way other than apologizing and changing the materials we reviewed in class, professional consequences would likely follow. This is because of liberal policy brought forth by liberalism in our education system. I am not arguing that colleges are not being set up like corporations that is a totally different argument and one I do agree with. Other than the "where the student is the customer, so they get their way because they're the ones paying" comment. So please stop changing the subject. Don't you know children totally chose their political ideology since primary school?
Damn liberal children.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » ...and predictably Ramy sticks his fingers in his ears. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So let me get this straight, liberal professor says his liberal students scare him, but liberalism is not the culprit, it's entitlement? In the course of a couple of posts, they have rationalized the dissonance with their own ideology and projected it onto their opponents. <mental disorder> Again, laughing. Cerberus.Laconic said: » This is because of liberal policy brought forth by liberalism in our education system. Expound on that, then. Explain how. Because I fail to see how this is a product of "liberal policy" in any way, beyond the out-of-context use of the word "liberal" as in "liberal use of lawsuits" as in "freely filing lawsuits". Not "left-leaning person files lawsuit". Wow. So a liberal website, Vox, with an article titled I'm a liberal professor, and my liberal students terrify me is really about someone who is conservative and the students aren't really liberal?
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You know, I should have known better than to post this and have a discussion of actual problems and not just have it devolve into a bunch of armchair conservatives flailing against the oppressive conservative feminist doctrine out to destroy America.
^^; Also there's nothing about lawsuits in the article. So I'm not sure where this lawsuit thing came into play.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Also there's nothing about lawsuits in the article. So I'm not sure where this lawsuit thing came into play. Lawsuits, grievances against a professor, etc. They're all the same type of thing. Appealing to some higher power because "this person wronged me and I feel bad about it". Except the wrongs are all perceived. Except that there's that word. "Feel". Conservatives don't have feelings, only liberals think with feelings, so ipso facto it must be a liberal idea and we don't have to address how to fix it, we just need to disparge "dirty liberals" instead. Ramyrez said: » Conservatives don't have feelings 
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I believe the question asked was which liberal policies did the evolve from. Will anyone take a moment to answer that or are we just going to get the same old "liberalism is a mental disorder" or "liberalism is bad and you should feel bad!"
The lawsuit thing stems from one of Jassiks comments on topic from his personal experiences.
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Offhand, common core is the latest one.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Offhand, common core is the latest one. Common core is a cluster ***, but I don't see how it in any ways leads to what we're discussing. I think it just doesn't do kids any favors by setting arbitrary benchmarks and goals. Teaching needs to be about imparting experience and methodology along with facts; rote memorization and basic skills only go so far, and there are only so many people who can make bank on quiz shows. Ramyrez said: » You know, I should have known better than to post this and have a discussion of actual problems and not just have it devolve into a bunch of armchair conservatives flailing against the oppressive conservative feminist doctrine out to destroy America. ^^; Looks like you are the one flailing about when discussion of the actual problem ensued. It's pretty impressive how this got onto lawsuits all of the sudden even though. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Also there's nothing about lawsuits in the article. So I'm not sure where this lawsuit thing came into play. Cerberus.Laconic said: » So please stop changing the subject. It has been asked to stay on subject. *rolls eyes*
'kay, well, it's been explained already, but whatever. You're the one trying to turn this into a "blast liberals" discussion instead of discussing the actual issues, but again. Live in your God-furrin' good-ol' boy 'murrican dreamworld if you want to. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Not to speak for him, but he means "liberalism" not liberal policies. You know, the same ideology that brings us everyone gets a trophy, high school classes with 27 valedictorians etc. You might want to take an objective look at the participation award generation and the demographics they inhabit. Unless you have some kind of argument or can name some aspects of "liberalism" that actually contribute. I keep hearing about this "liberalism", yet I don't think I've heard a single person that says it and even has a clue what they're pointing at.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Offhand, common core is the latest one. also, the program has been adopted by both democratic and republican states and has met feirce criticism in recent years over its effectiveness.
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Odin.Jassik said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Not to speak for him, but he means "liberalism" not liberal policies. You know, the same ideology that brings us everyone gets a trophy, high school classes with 27 valedictorians etc. You might want to take an objective look at the participation award generation and the demographics they inhabit. Unless you have some kind of argument or can name some aspects of "liberalism" that actually contribute. I keep hearing about this "liberalism", yet I don't think I've heard a single person that says it and even has a clue what they're pointing at.
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: » I believe the question asked was which liberal policies did the evolve from. I still can't find the quote I was looking for... but basically it was liberal battle cry back in the sixties that said if you can't win at the ballot box you take it to the courts and if you don't win there you take it to the streets or something along those lines, never retreat/surrender Plastic conservative christian patriarchal society is evil and must be destroyed by any means necessary. Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Offhand, common core is the latest one. also, the program has been adopted by both democratic and republican states and has met feirce criticism in recent years over its effectiveness. If anything, Common-Core seems to do the opposite. It's efficacy is hard to quantify, though, as it's only employed as a structure, not a curriculum. So, every district that deploys it is a different ball of wax. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Still not sure what the point of banning Altima is if he is allowed to come back with a million accounts anyway. If someone's circumventing a ban, please let us know. I know I personally don't follow this thread closely enough to sort out one wrong-headed shouter from another. Odin.Jassik said: » Lakshmi.Flavin said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Offhand, common core is the latest one. also, the program has been adopted by both democratic and republican states and has met feirce criticism in recent years over its effectiveness. If anything, Common-Core seems to do the opposite. It's efficacy is hard to quantify, though, as it's only employed as a structure, not a curriculum. So, every district that deploys it is a different ball of wax. Oh come on...nobody knows what common core even is...
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » Plastic conservative christian patriarchal society is evil and must be destroyed by any means necessary. That's not true at all. Polymers are worth keeping around. Shiva.Nikolce said: » I still can't find the quote I was looking for...
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Ramyrez said: » *rolls eyes* 'kay, well, it's been explained already, but whatever. You're the one trying to turn this into a "blast liberals" discussion instead of discussing the actual issues, but again. Live in your God-furrin' good-ol' boy 'murrican dreamworld if you want to. /slow clap Good job. Becoming what you apparently hate. Cerberus.Laconic said: » Ramyrez said: » *rolls eyes* 'kay, well, it's been explained already, but whatever. You're the one trying to turn this into a "blast liberals" discussion instead of discussing the actual issues, but again. Live in your God-furrin' good-ol' boy 'murrican dreamworld if you want to. /slow clap Good job. Becoming what you apparently hate. It was a short trip. Of the many differences between us, I have a degree of self awareness.
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