Random Politics & Religion #00
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Random Politics & Religion #00
If I ever ran, I want something along the lines of:
"Give me 5 minutes and I can give you a new reality." Something bizarre like that.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » If I ever ran, I want something along the lines of: "Give me 5 minutes and I can give you a new reality." Something bizarre like that. My slogan: Come with me and you'll be In a world of pure imagination.
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Chris Matthews - 0%
(lol)
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Al Franken - 0%
Not good enough. Not smart enough. People don't like him.
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What does a right wing libertarian look like?
Always bet on Biden.
Shiva.Viciousss said: » What if I told you it wasn't so much a "bowling league with beer" as much as a "drinking league with bowling"?
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Valefor.Sehachan said: » What does a right wing libertarian look like?
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Ramyrez said: » KN suffers the illusion that all of human greed, arrogance, and spite is in the past (or certainly not existent in the boardrooms of America, but rather, on the factory floors) and that today's corporations and businesses (large or small) -- outside of a couple of bad eggs -- would never stoop to beggaring their employees and gutting benefits to make themselves richer still. He truly seems to think that "trickle down" is a thing that actually happens. Ramyrez said: » I can tell you that I am critical of my own union internally at times, and vocally. That doesn't mean I want to be rid of it (well, I do want to be rid of it, but only in the sense I wish it weren't needed, but as I trust employers not to bleed me dry as much as I trust a viper not to bite...) But hey, anything to screw companies, right? Shiva.Viciousss said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » I'm actually curious; how many people here are actually members of a union? How many members have actually had personnel responsibilities over employees who were unionized, while themselves were not part of a union? I'm in a union, I really don't deal with them all that often, in fact I pretty much ignore them. My union president is one of the most unproductive employees in the building, she basically claims union time to justify her lack of production on a daily basis. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Go figure. Times 2. I wonder how many of your last umpteen posts had anything to do with politics or religion vs. bashing vic in your never ending crusade to get back at him for pulling your pants down around your ankles in front of the cheerleaders... we all get it, you think he is a *** and you don't like him, fine. but it's not his fault you were wearing ***stained dora the explorer underoos in high school.... let it go.jpg
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Asura.Kingnobody said: » Ramyrez said: » KN suffers the illusion that all of human greed, arrogance, and spite is in the past (or certainly not existent in the boardrooms of America, but rather, on the factory floors) and that today's corporations and businesses (large or small) -- outside of a couple of bad eggs -- would never stoop to beggaring their employees and gutting benefits to make themselves richer still. He truly seems to think that "trickle down" is a thing that actually happens. Ramyrez said: » I can tell you that I am critical of my own union internally at times, and vocally. That doesn't mean I want to be rid of it (well, I do want to be rid of it, but only in the sense I wish it weren't needed, but as I trust employers not to bleed me dry as much as I trust a viper not to bite...) But hey, anything to screw companies, right? But the best way to fight unions, or prevent them in your company, is to not make things shitty enough for people to need/want to be in them. It's a reactionary measure.
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Shiva.Nikolce said: » I wonder how many of your last umpteen posts had anything to do with politics or religion vs. bashing vic in your never ending crusade to get back at him for pulling your pants down around your ankles in front of the cheerleaders... A) I'm not surprised that Vic, an avid ***-kisser to the liberal party, is also a union member. B) I'm also not surprised that Vic is willing to say how worthless unions are, even though he is a union member himself. Besides: Shiva.Nikolce said: » but it's not his fault you were wearing ***stained dora the explorer underoos in high school.... Bahamut.Milamber said: » If the choice has to be between screwing individuals, or screwing companies, then the actual living creature comes first. But let's go down this route a bit. Give examples of companies screwing people over. Let's take this one step at a time. Bahamut.Milamber said: » But the best way to fight unions, or prevent them in your company, is to not make things shitty enough for people to need/want to be in them. But then again, any argument you would have would be in the past, not in the present. Unions are ineffective today because there is no "shitty conditions" in the workplace, unionized or not. There's no shitty conditions in the workplace? Hmmm.
Show evidence.
Instead of "Well, I think there are because Mother Jones said so!" Oh, I'm sure you are going to say "Part-time retail employees aren't getting paid CEO wages, that's shitty conditions right there!"
I never said my union was worthless, I said I don't interact with them because I don't need to. I also never said my union president was worthless as a union president, she just sucks as an employee. But hey, your empty, inaccurate insults continue to entertain.
Amazon recently ran into trouble for appalling working conditions in their warehouses. Stuff like denying breaks, forcing people to work in inadequate weather, threatening to lose your job even if you're injured/sick etc.
So basically WalMart. Go look up Walmart or something. Convince me you're a rational actor who can do more than parrot ideology. Shiva.Viciousss said: » I never said my union was worthless, I said I don't interact with them because I don't need to. I also never said my union president was worthless as a union president, she just sucks as an employee. But hey, your empty, inaccurate insults continue to entertain. But hey, at least you admitted that for us.
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No, I didn't admit that, I didn't even imply it. I only said that one member is worthless when it comes to one of her responsibilities, and you interpret it as all of them. I'm not responsible for your constant, inaccurate interpretations.
Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » If the choice has to be between screwing individuals, or screwing companies, then the actual living creature comes first. But let's go down this route a bit. Give examples of companies screwing people over. Let's take this one step at a time. http://www.law360.com/articles/83571/starbucks-hit-with-another-flsa-overtime-suit http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-walmart-lawsuit-idUSKBN0JU1XJ20141216 http://www.lieffcabraser.com/Case-Center/Wells-Fargo-Overtime-Pay-Class-Action-Lawsuit.shtml http://www.rigganlawfirm.com/Employment-Law-Blog/2015/April/8th-Circuit-Rejects-Private-Agreement-Between-Em.aspx http://www.rigganlawfirm.com/Employment-Law-Blog/2012/May/Enterprise-Agrees-to-Settle-Class-Action-Overtim.aspx Let's not get into placing entries into employee handbooks regarding discussion or disclosure of compensation or wages. Asura.Kingnobody said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » But the best way to fight unions, or prevent them in your company, is to not make things shitty enough for people to need/want to be in them. But then again, any argument you would have would be in the past, not in the present. Unions are ineffective today because there is no "shitty conditions" in the workplace, unionized or not. https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/establishment.search?p_logger=1&establishment=A%25&State=all&officetype=all&Office=all&p_case=all&p_violations_exist=yes&startmonth=01&startday=01&startyear=2015&endmonth=05&endday=28&endyear=2015
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You don't accept evidence. It's been proven time and again. Any time evidence is presented that you don't agree with, you call it "blogs, not news" or say it's "bias". Even if it's a non-partisan, non-affiliated research group as I've posted in the past.
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » Amazon recently ran into trouble for appalling working conditions in their warehouses. Stuff like denying breaks, forcing people to work in inadequate weather, threatening to lose your job even if you're injured/sick etc. Here is another article that you would probably have a field day just on the title alone, but will ignore it when you actually read the article itself. Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: » So basically WalMart. Go look up Walmart or something. Convince me you're a rational actor who can do more than parrot ideology. But let's go further into this: What do you expect to pay people, both in wages and benefits, when the average retention rate is less than 6 months for no-skilled labor? When the average retention expectancy is less than a year? Sure, they could offer their longer-term employees better benefits (they do, actually), but hey, anything to go against corporations, right? |
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