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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-06 17:41:53
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Debt negotiations are a ***.

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Greece's deputy finance minister said on Monday Germany owes Greece nearly 279 billion euros ($305.17 billion) in reparations for the Nazi occupation of the country.

Greek governments and also private citizens have pushed for war damages from Germany for decades but the Greek government has never officially quantified its reparation claims.

A parliamentary panel set up by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras's government started work last week, seeking to claim German debts, including war reparations, as well as the repayment of a so-called occupation loan that Nazi Germany forced the Bank of Greece to make and the return of stolen archaeological treasures.

Speaking at parliamentary committee, Deputy Finance Minister Dimitris Mardas said Berlin owed Athens 278.7 billion euros, according to calculations by the country's General Accounting Office. The occupation loan amounts to 10.3 billion euros.

The campaign for compensation has gained momentum in the past few years as Greeks have suffered hardship under austerity measures imposed by the European Union and International Monetary Fund in exchange for bailouts totaling 240 billion euros to save Greece from bankruptcy.

Tsipras has frequently blamed Germany for the hardship stemming from the imposition of austerity. He has angered Berlin by threatening to push for reparations in the middle of talks to unlock aid for Greece.

Germany has repeatedly rejected Greece's claims and says it has honored its obligations, including a 115 million deutschmark payment to Greece in 1960.
Greece puts a figure on World War Two reparation claims from Germany
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By Enuyasha 2015-04-06 23:35:30
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Debt negotiations are a ***.

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Greece's deputy finance minister said on Monday Germany owes Greece nearly 279 billion euros ($305.17 billion) in reparations for the Nazi occupation of the country.

Greek governments and also private citizens have pushed for war damages from Germany for decades but the Greek government has never officially quantified its reparation claims.

A parliamentary panel set up by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras's government started work last week, seeking to claim German debts, including war reparations, as well as the repayment of a so-called occupation loan that Nazi Germany forced the Bank of Greece to make and the return of stolen archaeological treasures.

Speaking at parliamentary committee, Deputy Finance Minister Dimitris Mardas said Berlin owed Athens 278.7 billion euros, according to calculations by the country's General Accounting Office. The occupation loan amounts to 10.3 billion euros.

The campaign for compensation has gained momentum in the past few years as Greeks have suffered hardship under austerity measures imposed by the European Union and International Monetary Fund in exchange for bailouts totaling 240 billion euros to save Greece from bankruptcy.

Tsipras has frequently blamed Germany for the hardship stemming from the imposition of austerity. He has angered Berlin by threatening to push for reparations in the middle of talks to unlock aid for Greece.

Germany has repeatedly rejected Greece's claims and says it has honored its obligations, including a 115 million deutschmark payment to Greece in 1960.
Greece puts a figure on World War Two reparation claims from Germany
Do the reparations come with backpay interest? Cause that would *** Germany ALL the way up.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-04-07 00:16:49
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Enuyasha said: »
Do the reparations come with backpay interest? Cause that would *** Germany ALL the way up.
I think it's more like this:

Germany: You owe us 240 billion euro in bailouts.

Greece: Well you owe us 279 billion euro in reparations.

Germany: Well we already paid you 115 million marks way back in 1960 so we don't owe you anything more on that.

Greece: Yeah well we're done with your insane austerity so either give us more money or we'll demand reparations that we feel are more accurate than what you gave us 55 years ago.

Germany: Are you *** crazy?!

Greece: That doesn't matter. We're done living like a bunch of poor schmucks.

Germany: No dice. Now pay your bills you bum.

Greece: Well we don't like your terms so we'll refinance with Russia or China.

Germany: Whoa now hold on a minute here. Let's not do anything crazy.

Greece: Talk is cheap, we want out of poverty and nice things. So what's it going to be?

Germany: How about you just agree to our new terms and tighten your belt a little more and maybe do some extra work for income. Perhaps even just reform your budget a bit better and promise to fix your situation in the future.

Greece: Now who's crazy? Where's our reparations?

Germany: ...(sigh)...

Greece: Going to Moscow now, we'll talk more when I get back.

Germany: We don't owe you anything, you owe us!

Greece: Well here's our calculations on how much you should have paid for occupying us way back in the late 40's. Going to Moscow now. Later.

(To be continued...)
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-04-07 09:18:15
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
according to calculations by the country's General Accounting Office.

well look at that...and it only took them seventy years.

who said the greeks weren't efficient!
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-07 09:29:18
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Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
It's all an elaborate ploy; it's been eight centuries in the making, but we're going to put god damn Indians in North America, just where we Europeans said they'd be.

this was an awesome post.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-07 09:29:26
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Reparations again, huh?

Man, I wish I could get ahold of some of that action.
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Seraph.Ramyrez said: »

your ancestors could've used some of that action.

you get your *** to work, & 100 jumping jacks while we're at it.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-07 09:36:48
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »

your ancestors could've used some of that action.

you get your *** to work, & 100 jumping jacks while we're at it.

Jumping jacks sound like a good way to blow out a knee. I'll keep my low-impact biking, thanks!
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 09:47:08
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Rand Paul makes official announcement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rand-paul-makes-2016-white-house-bid-official/story?id=30135296




Sen. Rand Paul has made his 2016 White House bid official, revealing the news on his newly launched presidential campaign website ahead of his scheduled announcement speech in Louisville, Kentucky.

"I am running for president to return our country to the principles of liberty and limited government," the Kentucky Republican is quoted as saying on his newly-launched campaign website, RandPaul.com.

The website is complete with a testimonial video from his wife, Kelley, in which she lays out why she believes her husband would make for a good president.

"Rand has the energy, the ideas, the honesty, to really help restore the prosperity and hope in the country," Kelley Paul says in the web video. "He loves making a difference as a doctor, and he believes he can make a difference as the president."

Rand Paul’s 2016 Road Trip: 5 States, 5 Things He Has to Prove

"Being a physician gives Rand a unique perspective in Washington, simply because he’s trained to diagnose a problem and find a solution," she says of her husband, who is an ophthalmologist by training.

In the video, Kelley tells the story of meeting her husband for the first time over 20 years ago at a party. At first, she says she blew him off, thinking he was only 18 years old.

"He kept trying, he was kind of persistent at the party and he came up to me again a little bit later and we started talking," Kelley recalls. But she would soon learn that he was actually 26 years old and a surgical intern. "He was very intelligent … and unlike anyone I’d ever met before."

She goes on to tell the story of Paul's upbringing, which makes no direct mention of Paul’s famous father -- former presidential candidate Ron Paul -- and instead focuses on Paul’s relationship to his grandmother, who lost her vision as she aged. Paul was an avid coin collector as a child, and it was a hobby he shared with his grandmother.

"As her eyesight began to fail, he became her eyes to spy the faint mint marks on the coins as they would go through them together," Kelley says in the video. "Rand never forgot how sad it was for him to watch his grandmother lose her vision and that really cemented for him his desire to be an ophthalmologist."

Kelley also discusses her husband’s work performing pro-bono surgeries for families who otherwise couldn't afford corrective eye surgery in Guatemala.

Following Paul's slated announcement speech at the Galt House Hotel in Louisville today, the candidate will kick his campaign into high gear, making visits the first four states in the presidential nominating process over the next four days.
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 09:56:55
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In gay cake news: (I know you want it)

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/azucar-bakery-did-not-discriminate-by-refusing-to-115703680320.html


Michael Walsh

Azucar Bakery did not discriminate by refusing to make anti-gay cakes: Colorado



The Colorado Civil Rights Division has ruled that a baker who refused to make cakes with anti-gay messages did not discriminate.

Marjorie Silva, owner of Azucar Bakery in Denver, says she got the news on Friday but knows that Bill Jack, a Christian from Castle Rock, Colo., will likely appeal the decision.

“I’m happy that we were not just morally right but legally right,” she said in an interview with Yahoo News. “Hopefully this will lead to a better world where we are friendly to each other.”

In March 2014, Jack asked Silva to make him a Bible-shaped cake with anti-gay messages, such as “Homosexuality is a detestable sin. Leviticus 18:22.” He also wanted the cake to include two men holding hands with a large X over them.

She agreed to make the dessert in the shape of a book but declined to include the hateful content.

Silva has been inundated with messages of support from LGBT people and their allies since refusing to reproduce the homophobic messages.

“About 2,000 of the emails I got were of support. There were four hateful, so that’s not even 1 percent. So it looks like humanity is going in the right direction and things are changing for good,” she said.

The baker, originally from Peru, says she is neither Christian nor gay but has respect for all people regardless of religious conviction or sexual orientation — she simply does not tolerate hatred.

“However you want to worship God [is fine by me]. In the end, he’s the same God for everybody,” she said. “I don’t think he would like us discriminating against each other and hating each other. Now, I haven’t read the entire Bible, but it’s common sense.”

Silva regularly makes cakes for Christian customers to celebrate Christmas, Easter and other spiritual occasions.

Many of her Christian customers have told her they support her actions completely and do not feel Jack’s beliefs represent their faith.

It’s unlikely Jack ever wanted the cakes in the first place. Silva thinks he was just trying to prove a point about the ongoing controversy over Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and a recent case of anti-gay discrimination in Colorado.

In 2012, Jack Phillips, an owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, Colo., cited his faith as justification in refusing to make a wedding cake for Charlie Craig and David Mullins.

The American Civil Liberties Union stepped in to represent the gay couple after they filed a discrimination complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, which concluded that Craig and Mullins had in fact suffered discrimination. Phillips is appealing the ruling.

Mark Silverstein, legal director of the ACLU in Colorado, says Jack cited the same legislation, which forbids discrimination based on race, sexual orientation, religion or sex, to rail against Azucar Bakery.

“This man tried to claim he also experienced a violation of the public accommodations statute but he was not discriminated against because he’s Christian,” he said in an interview with Yahoo News. “They had a policy that they apply across the board; they are not going to make a cake with such offensive, over-the-top language or images.”

Silverstein, who oversees litigation in a variety of civil liberties cases, shares Silva’s doubts about whether Jack was ever a legitimate customer.

“I think it was more like a stunt to make some misplaced point about the public accommodations statute,” he said.

Azucar Bakery has started selling T-shirts that say, “Because God loves everyone … let’s eat cake”; proceeds will go toward the bakery’s legal fees.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2015-04-07 10:12:34
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I'm beginning to think Leviticus was a closet homosexual.

One day when time travel is possible, I'll be sure to go back and give him a nice big gay cake.
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:17:09
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"Judge not, that ye be not judged"

Judge Judy
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:21:17
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"And as you gaze long into the gay cake, the gay cake gazes into you"
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-07 10:32:59
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fonewear said: »
"Judge not, that ye be not judged"

Judge Judy

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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:34:34
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That is both awesome and terrifying at the same time !

Personally I find Judge Judy to be shrill unattractive...now that I think of it just like Hillary !
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:36:44
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Any woman that seeks that much power has far too many masculine traits for me to find them attractive.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-04-07 10:37:23
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fonewear said: »
In gay cake news

I wonder if they covered any of this at wedding cake college...
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:38:40
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Speaking of college I don't remember covering the "tolerance" rhetoric when I went to school. Mostly don't rape and drink Miller Lite unless you pledge Sigma Phi Epsilon
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-07 10:40:22
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I'd vote for Rand Paul, if I'd been drinking.
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:41:04
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He's a doctor politician and so much more !


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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-04-07 10:48:05
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I'd vote for Rand Paul, if I'd been drinking.

They should really consider having poling stations at bars rather than schools and churches. I think the outcome would be quite interesting! :D
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-07 10:49:35
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I'd vote for Rand Paul, if I'd been drinking.


So...you're voting for Rand Paul?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-04-07 10:50:05
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I'll never understand how she was able to get past that hair-do...oh right... doctor.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-07 10:53:48
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Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
So...you're voting for Rand Paul?

drinking on a tuesday? possible, but not likely.
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By fonewear 2015-04-07 10:57:02
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
So...you're voting for Rand Paul?

drinking on a tuesday? possible, but not likely.

The best is going out on a Monday with all the real alcoholics !

I used to do that a few years ago it was depressing and amazing at the same time.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-04-07 10:59:03
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
So...you're voting for Rand Paul?

drinking on a tuesday? possible, but not likely.



I like you.

You get Vincent Price.
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-07 11:00:32
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fonewear said: »
The best is going out on a Monday with all the real alcoholics !

I used to do that a few years ago it was depressing and amazing at the same time.

I actually do that early sunday mornings when the squares are all at church. your second sentence is spot on. maybe the realest thing I've ever seen you post.

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You get Vincent Price.

John Waters too.
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Siren.Mosin said: »
John Waters too.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2015-04-07 11:06:07
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
I'll never understand how she was able to get past that hair-do...oh right... doctor.

Little did everyone know, a controversy that will eclipse that of Perry's N-word Head Ranch was about to unfold...

/mystic fingers

/finishes off Mexican martini in line
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-04-07 11:08:43
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I'd write in Niko if he was dumb enough to tell me his real name.
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