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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:27:01
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
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and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

He should be held to the same standard. In the defense of the public, they aren't HIS emails. They're OURS! Yet another example of rules for everyone but the rulers.

There, satisfied?

You love rules for everyone but the rulers. But only when "rulers" include you. Last time I checked you adore all kinds of legislation that limits, marginalizes, and otherwise retards the freedoms of people who aren't like you. Whether you admit it as such or not; mostly not. You really like to pretend your biases are justifiable.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:27:45
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I still feel like this is a bunch of really pointless outrage.

Nausi's (and probably Lordgrim's and other screwballs') paranoia aside, there are much bigger issues facing our country that no one in Washington wants to touch, but we'll all flip our ***and make a big show of pretending national security is really a thing if it will whip up support in our gerrymandered voting bases!
In other words, you really want Clinton to run and be president in 2016, so lets just ignore the fact that she violated the law.
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:28:10
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This isn't the P and R I've come to love and respect for hard hitting video game journalism !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:28:20
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

He should be held to the same standard. In the defense of the public, they aren't HIS emails. They're OURS! Yet another example of rules for everyone but the rulers.

There, satisfied?

You love rules for everyone but the rulers. But only when "rulers" include you. Last time I checked you adore all kinds of legislation that limits, marginalizes, and otherwise retards the freedoms of people who aren't like you. Whether you admit it as such or not; mostly not. You really like to pretend your biases are justifiable.
You must not pay attention at all. Care to provide examples?
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:28:30
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It wasn't the rule until 2009. Race baiting to save Hillary? Really? Anything to keep everyone on the Democrat Plantation.

So the issue isn't whether or not it's a problem; the issue is just whether she broke a "rule" and it can be blown out of proportion?
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:30:08
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

He should be held to the same standard. In the defense of the public, they aren't HIS emails. They're OURS! Yet another example of rules for everyone but the rulers.

There, satisfied?

You love rules for everyone but the rulers. But only when "rulers" include you. Last time I checked you adore all kinds of legislation that limits, marginalizes, and otherwise retards the freedoms of people who aren't like you. Whether you admit it as such or not; mostly not. You really like to pretend your biases are justifiable.
You must not pay attention at all. Care to provide examples?

You support keeping gay marriage illegal, despite the fact it simply grants a freedom to people and takes nothing away from you.

You support anything and everything that marginalizes or limits reproductive rights of any fashion, despite the fact it, again, only grants more freedom to others and takes nothing from you.

You love to "reverse race card" people and just constantly throw out the words "victim card" even though you play it yourself constantly.

I pay attention, I'm just not sure you remember all the things you post.

You have a major history of mistaking allowing others your freedoms as your freedoms being eroded.

It's a pretty prominent problem amongst the (supposedly)Christian right.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 10:30:21
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I read the article 3 times to be sure. There is no claim that she exclusively used a private email, and it states very clearly that any emails she sent prior to last October don't need to be archived or released, and that there is nothing illegal or even unusual about it. It even lists 20+ people from the previous administration that used personal email accounts as well and that were never archived. Where is your outrage for Karl Rove's secret emails planning the Iraq war before 9/11?
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:31:12
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We still on about Hillary look she won't admit doing anything wrong. It was an intern that set up the e-mail account I tells ya !
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:33:37
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I look forward to the investigation of all of this coming out after the 2016 election.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 10:35:16
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

It wasn't the rule until 2009. Race baiting to save Hillary? Really? Anything to keep everyone on the Democrat Plantation.

The law was signed in October of 2014 and only requires official emails sent or received on private email accounts to be archived to the federal database within 30 days.

What rule are you referring to?
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:37:49
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How can you guys talk about Hillary when there is a Planet Fitness transgender scandal !


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/planet-fitness-revokes-womans-membership-transgender-complaint/story?id=29465983




A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.

Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man."

The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today.

"I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure."

Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said.

"And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said.

"He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'"

When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies.

"I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man."

She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled."

On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately.

"They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it."

Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."

The statement continued, "The manner in which this member expressed her concerns about the policy exhibited behavior that management at the Midland club deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was cancelled."

Gosselin added, "As our statement outlines, her membership was not cancelled as a result of complaints about our policy, as we welcome all feedback from our members. Rather, it was the manner in which her concerns were expressed that club management felt was inappropriate, which resulted in the cancellation."
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-03-09 10:39:20
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
In other words, you really want Clinton to run and be president in 2016, so lets just ignore the fact that she violated the law.

I would much rather kick her *** handily at the ballot box than win on some kind of technicality....
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-03-09 10:39:33
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

It wasn't the rule until 2009. Race baiting to save Hillary? Really? Anything to keep everyone on the Democrat Plantation.

The law was signed in October of 2014 and only requires official emails sent or received on private email accounts to be archived to the federal database within 30 days.

What rule are you referring to?


The regulation that electronic records used for government business must be retained.
 
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-03-09 10:40:43
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"A few years ago this guy would have been getting us our coffee."

- Bill Clinton, on Presidential candidate Barack Obama
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-03-09 10:42:18
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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In other words, you really want Clinton to run and be president in 2016, so lets just ignore the fact that she violated the law.

I would much rather kick her *** handily at the ballot box than win on some kind of technicality....


It goes to her character or lack there of. This discussion of her inappropriately using personal emails is very relevant.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:43:37
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"A few years ago this guy would have been getting us our coffee."

- Bill Clinton, on Presidential candidate Barack Obama

Am I really the only person who took that in the same way that seniors on sports teams or fraternities and other organizations make rookies run errands for them?

As in, "hey, a couple years ago he was running to the gas station to get me a burrito; now he's captain of the team!"

There's a lot ot criticize Bill Clinton for, yet somehow all the media can do is the same tired old ***.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:44:13
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

He should be held to the same standard. In the defense of the public, they aren't HIS emails. They're OURS! Yet another example of rules for everyone but the rulers.

There, satisfied?

You love rules for everyone but the rulers. But only when "rulers" include you. Last time I checked you adore all kinds of legislation that limits, marginalizes, and otherwise retards the freedoms of people who aren't like you. Whether you admit it as such or not; mostly not. You really like to pretend your biases are justifiable.
You must not pay attention at all. Care to provide examples?

You support keeping gay marriage illegal, despite the fact it simply grants a freedom to people and takes nothing away from you.

You support anything and everything that marginalizes or limits reproductive rights of any fashion, despite the fact it, again, only grants more freedom to others and takes nothing from you.

You love to "reverse race card" people and just constantly throw out the words "victim card" even though you play it yourself constantly.

I pay attention, I'm just not sure you remember all the things you post.

You have a major history of mistaking allowing others your freedoms as your freedoms being eroded.

It's a pretty prominent problem amonst the religious right.

1st just lol, I haven't been inside any for of religious building in probably 10 years.

Gay people can already get married, they just need to get married like the rest of us do, (to a person of the opposite sex). Marriage means something, I support what it means. It really doesn't mean I don't think gay people should be afforded protections like those strait people do through marriage, but it isn't "marriage". They shouldn't be allowed to force everyone else to affirm their lifestyle by forcing them to recognize it as a "marriage".

I do advocate for a more restrictive attitude towards abortion, that's correct. However I don't think it should be banned. I advocate for additional rights for unborn children instead of for the horrible people who use abortion as a form of last resort birth control (which is pretty damn awful). Aside from that, I don't think women (or men either) deserve the special right to have someone else pay for their birth control.

I didn't realize pointing out how the manner in which white men get picked on is the same as being victimized by it.

I don't expect you to know everything I've ever said, but you hardly ever put any thought into what I say.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:46:07
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All the republicans need is a better candidate than Hillary, which honestly shouldn't be hard and instead of that they throw poop hoping something sticks.

The Republicans get too divided because too many of them got their current offices by preaching antiquated ways of thinking on social issues to ignorant, poor voters who buy into their schtick. Therefore they've got to keep playing that card, and anyone who is moderate socially and able to make anything happen fiscally gets dumped on their ***.

So they haven't even tried using the latter at all for, oh...35 years?
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By fonewear 2015-03-09 10:47:19
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The only thing Hillary has to fear is... Hillary herself !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:47:31
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fonewear said: »
How can you guys talk about Hillary when there is a Planet Fitness transgender scandal !


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/planet-fitness-revokes-womans-membership-transgender-complaint/story?id=29465983




A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.

Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man."

The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today.

"I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure."

Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said.

"And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said.

"He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'"

When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies.

"I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man."

She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled."

On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately.

"They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it."

Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."

The statement continued, "The manner in which this member expressed her concerns about the policy exhibited behavior that management at the Midland club deemed inappropriate and disruptive to other members, which is a violation of the membership agreement and as a result her membership was cancelled."

Gosselin added, "As our statement outlines, her membership was not cancelled as a result of complaints about our policy, as we welcome all feedback from our members. Rather, it was the manner in which her concerns were expressed that club management felt was inappropriate, which resulted in the cancellation."
Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2015-03-09 10:47:32
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
"A few years ago this guy would have been getting us our coffee."

- Bill Clinton, on Presidential candidate Barack Obama

Am I really the only person who took that in the same way that seniors on sports teams or fraternities and other organizations make rookies run errands for them?

As in, "hey, a couple years ago he was running to the gas station to get me a burrito; now he's captain of the team!"

There's a lot ot criticize Bill Clinton for, yet somehow all the media can do is the same tired old ***.

Yeah OK. The left wing and the media tried to make George Bush into a racist for saying that Obama is articulate.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:47:56
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't expect you to know everything I've ever said, but you hardly ever put any thought into what I say.

Inversely, by merely speaking to you, most of us around here give entirely too much thought to what you say, and goad you into saying more.

You're a *** throwback, Nausi. And you're stupid enough to take that as a complement, I'm sure.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-09 10:48:09
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
and it's not a widely used practice.
Funny, Colin Powell used a non-governmental e-mail, too. Of course, he's brown, so I'm sure you'll have no trouble leaping all over him, too.

It wasn't the rule until 2009. Race baiting to save Hillary? Really? Anything to keep everyone on the Democrat Plantation.

The law was signed in October of 2014 and only requires official emails sent or received on private email accounts to be archived to the federal database within 30 days.

What rule are you referring to?


The regulation that electronic records used for government business must be retained.

I believe you are either referring to Obama's first executive order or the changes to NARA, neither of which pertain to confidential communique. The only rule that applies here is the retention policies enacted in 2014.
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:48:31
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Yeah OK. The left wing and the media tried to make George Bush into a racist for saying that Obama is articulate.

Wouldn't know, any time these stupid comics come up on a news source, I stop paying attention. It's not worth my time. (Literally, I have no idea what George Bush comment you're talking about.)
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2015-03-09 10:48:48
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
It goes to her character or lack there of. This discussion of her inappropriately using personal emails is very relevant.

she had ron brown killed... and you're worried about some emails... /shakes his head sadly and snatches aman's tin foil hat

whoopsie our bad sorry about that
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By Ramyrez 2015-03-09 10:49:24
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.

What *** truth was there?

That this woman was uncomfortable with someone different from her and she threw a hissy fit?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:52:53
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
I don't expect you to know everything I've ever said, but you hardly ever put any thought into what I say.

Inversely, by merely speaking to you, most of us around here give entirely too much thought to what you say, and goad you into saying more.

You're a *** throwback, Nausi. And you're stupid enough to take that as a complement, I'm sure.
And there we go again. Attempt to have a conversation with you and it almost instantly degrades into insults. You have no patience for discussion. It almost like your brain has an aversion to critical thinking.
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Judge not the bathroom lest the bathroom judges you !
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-09 10:54:39
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Ramyrez said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shh, we're not allowed to speak the truth anymore. Lest we'll be called a bigot.

What *** truth was there?

That this woman was uncomfortable with someone different from her and she threw a hissy fit?

The truth that a man doesn't belong in a woman's locker room.
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