U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds

Don't need to be a binary thinker to categorize two groups of people.

Well, I don't want to tell you how to articulate yourself, but that wasn't apparent to me. It made your argument seem akin to the whole "libtard" ideology.

Except that's not what you did. You categorized a single group of people into two groups. Either Dumb Republicans or smart republicans.

There's no "Dumb" Republican with a "Smart" idea, nor any "Smart" republican with a "Dumb" Idea.

Binary logic, how did you not get that from your post?

You know what I don't understand about the Global Warming debate on the detractor's side?

Nobody argues that pollution isn't bad. It seems like even if you don't get on board the whole doomsayer train, there's at least enough common ground here to move forward anyway.

You know what I don't understand about the Global Warming debate on the detractor's side?

Nobody argues that pollution isn't bad. It seems like even if you don't get on board the whole doomsayer train, there's at least enough common ground here to move forward anyway.

Acknowledged, though to be fair(to me of course), it wasn't meant to be a real argument. I pretty much said everyone who voted republican was dumb, which is pretty extreme, even for more.

You're conflicting two different things here. Republicans are dumb, and that's why they're republicans. Establishment republican politicians are insanely smart. For example, the politicians lay claim to Lincoln because it's both historically accurate and because it gives off a positive, non-racist image. Republican constituents lay claim to Lincoln and think Lincoln would actually be on their side.


I'm still waiting btw, AO.

Sorry wife got home. Anyways I was hoping for something I didn't know about. Oh well..

True to my word. Things wrong in Washington. NSA TSA BLM IRS Homeland security. Still fighting 2 wars, (we are still in Iraq).
Mass Regulation, Obamacare... The working pay 40% taxes on what they earn. I could go on and on and on...

This chart

Obama and his minions claim the total opposite. Which is it?

You know what I don't understand about the Global Warming debate on the detractor's side?

Nobody argues that pollution isn't bad. It seems like even if you don't get on board the whole doomsayer train, there's at least enough common ground here to move forward anyway.

I don't know where you're going with this, nor do I really care that much to be honest. Just waiting for AO to reply.

I'm going to make an exception and throw in a disclaimer just this once.

Of course this isn't true for all conservatives, but generally speaking, conservatives tend not to care about anyone or anything outside their arm's reach. If you want conservatives on board, we have to get to a point where pushing back against AGW results in them keeping more of their tax money or something that satisfies their own self interest.

Derp.

Obama and his minions claim the total opposite. Which is it?

Sorry wife got home. Anyways I was hoping for something I didn't know about. Oh well..

True to my word. Things wrong in Washington. NSA TSA BLM IRS Homeland security. Still fighting 2 wars, (we are still in Iraq).
Mass Regulation, Obamacare... The working pay 40% taxes on what they earn. I could go on and on and on...

This chart

Obama and his minions claim the total opposite. Which is it?

You know what I don't understand about the Global Warming debate on the detractor's side?

Nobody argues that pollution isn't bad. It seems like even if you don't get on board the whole doomsayer train, there's at least enough common ground here to move forward anyway.

You say Anti-Intellectual, I say Conservatives are insanely smart.

Really think about it, how far to the right have they pushed the Democrats by simply forcing the Democrats to fill the "Moderate" void leftover as more republicans go insane/teaparty?

That's some full on Tywin Lannister ***right there, win the war while losing every battle.

The liberals have not moved to the middle. I can say this because I'm solidly in the middle and support various issues from both sides. This doesn't matter because each side views me as "Enemy Number One" as I refuse to blindly agree with their entire agenda and put on their teams warpaint. I am an individual and don't belong to some collective entity.

Right now we have both extreme conservative and extreme progressive (Social Democrats) parties and this extremism has resulted in there being no middle or moderate position. Your post is a prime example of this thinking.

Because it would still cost the overlords money so in order to reconcile this in their minds you see such arguments as:
- CO2 is natural and can't be a pollutant
- the hyperbolic strawman that claims we should get rid of CO2 emissions entirely
- the tried-and-true free market solution that claims pollution would essentially get rid of itself when it becomes unprofitable.

I'm sure I overlooked others but those are the most common pre-packaged talking points I've encountered. I highly doubt it's a coincidence that most detractor's are confined within one particular political ideology. They all fall for the same tricks provided by the same people.

If the science was actually settled, we wouldn't be seeing research papers and studies about the changing climates all over the globe, or the papers and studies that talk about what kind of footprint humanity has had on it, or if it's all happening naturally.

What people are actually arguing for with the Anthropogenic Global Warming, is that we've effectively had our hand in helping to create this environmental mess we're in, specifically for our own well being.

The data collected and examined comes from the industrial revolution, where CO2 emissions and other pollutants reached an all time unnatural high for that period, and again when companies added additional waste to production, which emitted more pollutant green house gases than what could have ever happened naturally.

Unfortunately, we don't have another planet Earth to spare to make an absolute comparison or to use in an experiment. But researchers can still find a way to simulate the effect using working scaled down models of cities, and country-sides for analysis.

Hell, you can see pollution domes over large metropolitan cities that act like an insulator. You can see the effect of this warming in large scale events where the average temperature rises when there are more people in one place, than if it was sparsely populated.