Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0

Curious, did you mean to put Wakido Kote +3 here?

SAM is the best job for solo card runs IMO. Just do that with extra canteens.

Can i get some input from the player base on my set/s desired for my Koga tp?

I am torn between 4 hit w/ high att
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and then the su3 set, 5 hit, 200 less att but 17% more TA and 29% more crit hit rate, lil more dex and acc
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Of course sooner or later ill have all the above to mix in high/mid/low acc and such. But right now I want to focus on the best TP set I can make assuming acc isn't an issue.

I'd recommend something like this, assuming uncapped attack during tp phase but capped for ws and no sam roll. legs have several options, though. af+3, volte, flamma are all fairly close together

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Another solid leg option for legs would be Ryou Hakama (Path D). HQ legs will have STP +13 with DA +4.

forgot about those, but yeah, those are also a good choice

I was kinda leaning towards my first set as well with some tweaks like what you have listed, I don't feel like adding multi hit to a Koga aftermath is going to be very helpful.

Is that zanshin +12 really that strong to over power the other pieces? I am assuming it adds +12% proc rate even on a landed hit then to stand a chance? BG doesn't really specify if its only on missed attacks or all attacks

3% on a landed hit if no other forms of multi hits land that round. but a zanshin from that way will give more tp than a triple attack.

ok, ty austar, helps giving me some perspective on what i am aiming for, i need to look at all the ring/earring options two theres some i didn't know existed lol

austar why do you keep deleting the damn sets i have no context to base myself on half the time reeee

cuz

I honestly thought she was just throwing shade at Citrelautame's sets... Lol

no, austar's genuinely helpful, they just alWAYS DO THIS

Coming back to Samurai, and trying to delve into how the STP gifts comes into play..

Before gifts:
450 delay weapons need 57stp for 4hit (counted from 0tp/no ws return), and with a ws return of 263tp, 54stp is needed for 3hit

437 delay weapons need 64stp for 4hit (counted from 0/no ws return), and with a ws return of 256tp, 62stp is needed for 3hit

How is this 8% from Master counted here? Is it straight up "8", so f.x 57 requirement now is 49?

I'm pretty sure the 8% just means +8 STP. I think it's been established that you should be stacking STP beyond just the x-hit requirement anyways as the TP that bleeds over aids your WS's more than you would gain from extra TP set stats in terms of pure DPS. You see people subbing in the Ken. gear for when they want the extra acc & meva.

Thanks for replying Kaotik. Yea I do use the Ken +1 etc too. TP overflow is fine, but I really want to know this for certain.

This is kinda exactly what I wanna achieve. It's a big difference between 57 and 49 stp.

Just to double check, Relic+3 body is the best for any WS, right?

Unless you have some crazy DM valorous mail and can’t hit overwelm position.

Is it though? Ws's like Shoha, Rana, Stardiver. Was thinking Dagon or Kenda +, what do you all think?

I’m sure that there are others who can answer this way better than me but I tried to do some rough calculations comparing Dagon with Relic +3 for Shoha:


Tachi: Shoha is a 2 hit with fTP of 2.6875 at 3K TP and 1.375 at 1K TP [I will do them both]
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At 1K TP:

1.375x2=2.75[Before multi-hits]

Add belt/neck:
(1.375+0.2)x2=3.15

Factoring Multihits:
BiS/Multi Shoha has [ 21 DA 19 TA 3 QA ]
100x0.03=3
100-3=97
97x0.19=18.43
100-18.43=81.57
81.57x0.21=17.13
100+3+18.43+17.13=138.56 attacks

1.39 AVG attacks of a 39% chance of getting a proc of multihit attack with 3.15 fTP at 1K
For the sake of making this easy I will add a constant of (3.15x39%) to the overall fTP(1.23)

Total fTP= 3.15+1.23=4.39 with BiS multi

Now let’s see if you swap Dagon with Relic +3

Shoha with +3 Relic has [ 21 DA 14 TA 3 QA ]
100x0.03=3
100-3=97
97x0.14=13.58
100-13.58=86.42
86.42x0.21=18.15
100+3+13.58+18.15=134.73 attacks

1.35 AVG attacks of a 35% chance of getting a proc of multihit attack with 3.15 fTP at 1K
(3.15x35%) to the overall fTP(1.1)

Total fTP= 3.15+1.1=4.25 with BiS multi

4.39-4.25=0.14 increase in fTP

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At 3K TP:
2.6875x2=5.375[Before multi-hits]

Add belt/neck:
(2.6875+0.2)x2=5.775

Factoring Multihits:
1.39 AVG attacks of a 39% chance of getting a proc of multihit attack with 5.775 fTP at 3K
(5.775x39%) to the overall fTP(2.25)

Total fTP= 5.775+2.25=8.0 with BiS multi

With Relic +3
1.35 AVG attacks of a 35% chance of getting a proc of multihit attack with 5.775 fTP at 1K
(5.775x35%) to the overall fTP(2.0)

Total fTP= 5.775+2.0=7.8 with relic +3

8.0-7.8=0.2 increase in fTP

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By keeping Dagon on you lose 10% wsd from Relic +3 in exchange for 0.14 in total fTP at 1K TP and 0.20 at 3K TP which is not recommended imo and I didn't even factor the STP/Overwhelm on Relic +3 in overflow [I could be missing something here and a better explanation can be done by others]

Edit: This is the Shoha Set I used

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ftp doesn’t carry and a binomial distribution would make it simple to calculate if you’re going that way. i can make some corrections later

bump

Anyone know for certain how to calculate 8% stp from gifts? Is it the same as just adding 8stp, or calculated otherwise?

just 8 stp

Great. That changes up the game quite a freakin bit. thanks

This is almost completely wrong. As Austar said, fTP doesn't replicate on Tachi: Shoha. I have always gotten much more consistent high damage Shohas from WSD. DA/TA/QA has always been very lackluster for this WS for me personally.

At exactly 1K TP with Doji, moonshade, and fotia x2, you'll have exactly 2.375 ftp on the first and one for any other.

With overwhelm, I get 35 WSD if your cape is WSD, which I assume it is.

So, 2.375 * 1.35 = 3.20625 fTP on first hit.

With those numbers, your average hits per round should be 1.623597. 3.20625 + 0.623597 + 1 + 0.623597 = 5.453444

Swapping to +3 body and you get:
2.375 * 1.45 = 3.44375
average hits per round = 1.536782

3.44375 + 0.536782 + 1 + 0.536782 = 5.517314

Of course any overflow of TP would make WSD an even better stat.

I'd use something along these lines:

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I also favor WSD for Shoha, the only thing I didn't pay attention to was "carry over" and if it helps what I did there applies to Stardiver.
I also didn't use Doji as you can see from the set posted, yet we both came to the same conclusion that Relic +3 wins anyway.

yeah but you came to the conclusion in a completely wrong way. just looking at your 1K numbers

your average hits per round is wrong, it should be 1.623597. Then you had fTP carry over. You didn't even calculate anything regarding WSD, you just did body - no body. you only said it wasn't worth it without really showing why.

You and your *** blank sets aus, aaaauughhhh

It's just a Fudo set with Flamma head/boots and Brutal Earring.