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Bushido - The Way of The Samurai (A Guide) V. 2.0
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2014-09-29 19:05:13
Any 115-117 set for the returning SAM? Dusting off mine, Tsuru/Cibi if it helps, got full Otronif+1 with PDT% 3-4 each, 109 AF and relic, just looking for transition build until 119 sets, got Xaddi too...Just need basic TP/Fudo set with some 110-118 and basic 119 alternatives! Thank you :)
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-09-29 19:15:04
Not sure how much you do and don't have, but:
otomi/ganesha/brutal+trux or bladeborn+steelflash
xaddi(15a)/wakido(+1)/rajas/k'ayres
takaha/windbuffet(+1)/otro+1/otro+1
otomi/gorget/brutal/moonshade
phorcys/mikinaak(15a)/ifrit(+1)/ifrit(+1)
buquwik/metalsinger or prosilio/scufflers or wakido(+1) or mikinaak(15a)/sakonji(+1)
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2014-09-29 19:56:59
Thank you!
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By Sylph.Agentblade 2014-09-30 16:06:35
I am just starting Yoichi Trials today! Is there any tricks/tips or info that can make this a lil less painful? Thanks & /cheers
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2014-09-30 16:21:05
I am just starting Yoichi Trials today! Is there any tricks/tips or info that can make this a lil less painful? Thanks & /cheers beg all your yoichi owning friends to help you with killshots by each soloing and killshotting stuff in a party. Its a popular enough relic you should know 1 or 2.
By Pantafernando 2014-09-30 16:52:27
I am just starting Yoichi Trials today! Is there any tricks/tips or info that can make this a lil less painful? Thanks & /cheers
First swap to wk gk with oat, and have a 4hits tp set. Second, build a shooting ws set, as namas will be pretty weak even in old content. If you have mules, do trials in abyssea. If not, maybe its prefered doing trials outside to favor haste buffs from trusts.
When i did, i used my brd mule, and went /war for extra da and berserk. In abyssea, without buffs namas will be far from attack cap, so its a good idea using a dragon steak or magma that last for 2h. Atmas used were vv, apoc and other da atma that i forgot the name.
Shouting prior to going is a good idea. Abyssea has a couple of camps next to other with same mobs family. From beast i used tigers in le theine, for aquans, i used the crabs in misareaux, amd thats a great camp if you have a party as diferent players can deal different camps, and avoid waiting respawn. For vermins, vunkerl has spiders and ladybugs next to other, and good ones. Also ladybugs takes extra dmg from piercing, though its a pain they are just aggresive during day. Basically i just pulled entire zone, hit till mobs was near 50% then ws to kill, and auto target next mob. Overall i was doing 300 mobs below 2h with just buff mule, and did the 400 vermins bellow 2h when i had a jp killing ladybugs while i was killing spiders.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-09-30 18:53:48
beg all your [RME] owning friends to help you with killshots I sure get that a lot from a certain someone. <.<
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-09-30 18:55:23
I am just starting Yoichi Trials today! Is there any tricks/tips or info that can make this a lil less painful? Thanks & /cheers
Find a pld friend, go to abyssea, make him pull a whole camp, pop a brew and ws at stuff one by one; was very fun :D
Lakshmi.Amymy
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-10-01 12:50:03
Can samurai really do 20,000 fudo and 20,000 light skill chain using fudo on wokpet? If so how? Hadn't seen it yet.
Cerberus.Conagh
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-01 12:54:43
Can samurai really do 20,000 fudo and 20,000 light skill chain using fudo on wokpet? If so how? Hadn't seen it yet.
Easily and 99999 light skillchains are EASILY DOABLE.
if so? By not sucking.
Sklllchain bonus trait alone would make it do 32k from a 20k fudo assuming 2 step.
Assuming Fudo > kasha > shoha > ja Fudo you would see a 20k fudo and 50k Lightskillchain ~~~ (assuming 2 ja for SC and TP bonus probably see alot more Skillchain damage)
20k is below average I've personally managed 26k but posted one for 17k ~ (I got tired of posting ws pics)
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By Asura.Failaras 2014-10-01 13:01:18
They are likely using Yaes to push Fudo to 20k, Light SCs definitely though using 4 steps.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-01 13:03:56
They are likely using Yaes to push Fudo to 20k, Light SCs definitely though using 4 steps.
yeah without SP2 it's hard to get past 20k or Triple attack proc from Mythic?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-01 13:31:31
They are likely using Yaes to push Fudo to 20k, Light SCs definitely though using 4 steps.
yeah without SP2 it's hard to get past 20k or Triple attack proc from Mythic?
Without SP2, the best I've done consistently on Wopket with solid buffs and nearly top tier gear is ~18K, I've spiked 22K a couple times, which I can only assume is TA from ejekamal boots I use for high attack sets. (tsurumaru makes it impossible to tell from TP return).
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-10-01 13:48:11
They are likely using Yaes to push Fudo to 20k, Light SCs definitely though using 4 steps.
yeah without SP2 it's hard to get past 20k or Triple attack proc from Mythic?
Without SP2, the best I've done consistently on Wopket with solid buffs and nearly top tier gear is ~18K, I've spiked 22K a couple times, which I can only assume is TA from ejekamal boots I use for high attack sets. (tsurumaru makes it impossible to tell from TP return).
Sigh I still need those feet, guess that's something to do when I get back on the 7th :/
Lakshmi.Amymy
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-10-01 14:38:14
Oh crap I didn't know About sp2 lol
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-10-01 15:13:48
So if doing tree with 2 SAMs is it worth it to work together to just skichain fudo kasha shoha fudo for high skill chain damage? I mean for the whole run
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By Asura.Failaras 2014-10-01 15:16:24
If you have 2 Sams you are usually better off just Fudo spamming, however many people run with 1 Sam and 4 step SCing is great for that. Also if you have 1 Sam busy killing adds the other can solo 4 step during that time.
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By Lakshmi.Amymy 2014-10-01 15:30:19
Thanks. That's true
Asura.Natenn
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-10-02 04:17:53
Wouldn't it be better to spam 6 step SC then the 4 step? or the more SCs you make doesn't keep increasing SC dmg? Fudo kasha shoha fudo is fusion Light light, Rana shoha fudo kasha shoha fudo is frag distotion fusion light light.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-10-02 17:43:08
A 6-step would total in approximately 7% more damage after each skillchain combo ending on an equal amount of WSs (3 4-steps vs 2 6-steps), but it also leaves a little more room for error (getting stunned, missing, unlucky paralyze, flash, powerful slow before an auto-attack, etc.). The HP of your target may also favor the 4-step as well (Aberrant Uragnite and Laevvid can be killed in 1 4-step)
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-02 18:04:12
They are likely using Yaes to push Fudo to 20k, Light SCs definitely though using 4 steps.
yeah without SP2 it's hard to get past 20k or Triple attack proc from Mythic?
Without SP2, the best I've done consistently on Wopket with solid buffs and nearly top tier gear is ~18K, I've spiked 22K a couple times, which I can only assume is TA from ejekamal boots I use for high attack sets. (tsurumaru makes it impossible to tell from TP return).
Sigh I still need those feet, guess that's something to do when I get back on the 7th :/
I ended up using KI for RoE because I'd done a solid 20 Tchakka's with nothing but a 106 GKT and 5 or 6 masks. They're really only good for fodder sets, but they're nice to have when you can use them.
Bismarck.Dubai
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By Bismarck.Dubai 2014-10-03 18:23:33
Would it be advisable to use double Ramuh Ring +1 for a High Acc set? Or would 1 be enough?
Asura.Ccl
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-10-03 18:24:55
Would it be advisable to use double Ramuh Ring +1 for a High Acc set? Or would 1 be enough?
Do you cap with one ?
yes=> use 1
no => use 2
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By Asura.Failaras 2014-10-03 18:39:11
What if I can't cap with 2, do I use 3?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-10-03 18:49:31
What if I can't cap with 2, do I use 3? Put those suckers on your toes!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-10-03 19:09:28
What if I can't cap with 2, do I use 3?
If you drop down to 5-hit, the accuracy is often a DPS loss, it would depend on how far you are from cap.
Asura.Natenn
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-10-03 23:14:29
What if I can't cap with 2, do I use 3? Put those suckers on your toes!
Bismarck.Dubai
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By Bismarck.Dubai 2014-10-03 23:58:33
Would it be advisable to use double Ramuh Ring +1 for a High Acc set? Or would 1 be enough?
Do you cap with one ?
yes=> use 1
no => use 2
With sole sushi+1 my High ACC param is @ 1038, without sushi+1 it's at 958.
Keeping in mind using SAM for delve2/Incursion
Leviathan.Nitenichi
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By Leviathan.Nitenichi 2014-10-04 00:55:37
To jump on this while were at it, would like to see what sams are using for incursion nms 130+ for fudo.
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By Cerberus.Reiden 2014-10-05 14:43:59
Updated guide with Table of contents, some color, job points and some other little things.
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