Good Old New Jersey Corruption

Bridgegazi.

Why did Chris Christie let an old woman die on the GWB for political reasons? Was he asleep during this crisis? Where was the leadership? Why isn't he holding himself accountable? Questions need to be answered, this sounds fishy and is probably part of a larger conspiracy involving 9/11, nazis, dolphins and conservatives.

You probably shouldn't. Elections matter. The decisions our politicians make will affect your future, your children's future (if you have or plan to have kids), and the outcomes of your family and friends. The two party system has its flaws but there are major differences between the parties right now. I find it difficult to believe that any responsible, thoughtful American has no opinion on these differences, or such a weak opinion that they don't feel it is worth an hour of their time every two/four years to vote for their representatives.


It sounds like you are prevaricating in the first half of your post. Is it wrong or isn't it? I think it's wrong, and I don't think that direct political reprisals are "business as usual". At least, it's usually subtle and indirect.

The way I see it people in the Middle East are dying to vote and we in the US are apathetic at best.

Most of the people I see vote are old people. I very rarely see anyone my age voting in any election.

And no rock the vote and all that *** isn't helping get young people to vote.

You need people to be informed on the issues. They have to understand that elections effect them whether they vote or not.

I have opinions on issues, but me caring about those opinions is a completely different story.

For example, I think gay people should be able to get married. However, if they banned it in the US, I really don't give a ***. It just seems stupid to oppose gay marriage, but at the same time I don't care that they do.

Abortions? I think people should be able to do what they want with their bodies. If they passed a law that banned abortions though, I wouldn't care.

So I have opinions, but I don't have feelings attached to them.

and when I don't give a ***for either of the candidates to begin with; I'm not one of those "lesser of two evils" If there is someone who gives me a reason to vote for them, I will vote for them. I won't vote for someone just because "I don't want that other guy in office"

And it's been said to you countless times before: You'll care when the legislation hits close to home and you're affected by people in office actively working against you. Closing your eyes to it doesn't change the fact ***is going down.

If you don't like any of the candidates, it takes all of 15seconds to get to a poll site, write in Goku and keep it moving. If enough people voiced their frustration through the polls instead of armchair bitching, we might see better candidates.

Welp, we'll get the government we deserve. Incompetent ***.

I don't *** though either. I don't say "Obama sucks because he's doing this this and that wrong" or "Romney is doing this and that I hate him"

I simply leave it at I didn't care for either of the candidates and move on.

If there's an issue that hits home, then maybe I'll care; but as it is now, there isn't.

Going in and writing in Goku is a waste of time. If there are X number of people eligible to vote and X-Y people who care enough to vote, that should say enough. Going in and writing in Goku is pointless

your political views suck and you should feel bad.

idk man, he lost to punk kid!

Piccolo would probably be the better choice, he's had experience in running a planet before though Frieza has a track record of success in the public and private sector. He isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, chat it out with the locals and handle foreign relations crises.

Vegeta is another one of those Washington politicians who only cares about training and mooching off his wife. He also goes around calling himself a prince. What an entitled jackass.

Do you really believe that anyone outside of the 2-party system will be elected ever?

If yes: why?

If no: there's probably a billion people who feel exactly the same and therefore choose the lesser evil each election. I think the media has convinced everyone that a non 2-party vote is a wasted vote and therefore everyone votes for one or the other. I think "they" are now confident enough in that where they just do whatever they please.

but but, he fused with another and became one!
not in my town!

Let me shift this. Let's say it's the 1960's and I say:

"I think black people ought to be able to vote/marry white people/not be lynched for walking down the wrong street/etc. However, if they don't get these rights, then I really don't give a ***. It just seems stupid to oppose black civil rights, but at the same time I don't care that they do."

It is because other people felt responsible for YOUR rights that you are able to be so cavalier about the rights of others now.


See above.


Then vote third party. There are third-party candidates of every stripe. No, they won't be elected, but they can be significant, like in 2000 with Ralph Nader. Nader's votes basically changed the world significantly. It also made a lot of us aware that sitting out because we don't want to vote the lesser of two evils can be disastrous.

I go in and vote for a gang of libertarians every time, even though their economic ideas are laughable, I'm not going to vote (R) or (D) just because someone tried to convince us it's the thing to do.

is this practice a waste of time? probably. I know one thing for sure though, abstaining, or randomly voting for the established parties wouldn't be a positive choice in the grand scope of things, & I'd much rather be counted as not approving of how things are now instead of not being counted at all.

I know what tiger is saying though, I felt exactly the same way from 18-27 or so.

and others will still do this regardless of whether I vote or not.

If there were a candidate that connected with on a vast majority of issues, sure, why not? If I agree with you on one thing and completely disagree on another (let's say I like your immigration policy but hate your abortion policy), then can't help you there.

Voting for individual amendments or things that show up on the ballot on their own I have no issue with. Voting for a candidate is deciding on a lot of things with a single vote though. I like the stance of being to vote for ***individually.

Those elections mean more (to me) than electing officials ever could

The media doesn't think for me and it shouldn't think for you. You aren't mandated to vote for any of the candidates in an election so why pick one if none line up with you? I'm not even talking presidential elections where your vote is diluted, I'm talking small-scale local races where only a few K turn out.

If you think that your vote is wasted pulling the lever for Goku then you fail to understand what a protest vote is and how it'd look if someone got elected when 25% of the voting bloc decided to go for fictional characters. Staying home isn't participating, going to the polling site and writing in *** you is.

So yes, I think you can make a statement by going to the polls instead of being the smug "I'm better than the system" types that tend to permeate the 20somethings I call kin.

really with technology these days, we probably could run a pure democracy & just throw all the bums out. I'd vote for that.

This is the best way to show that you have no confidence in the main people/parties. Either pick a third party or do a write in.

We don't have a vote of no confidence in the US, unlike most other democratic systems. By not voting you give no indication of why you are not voting (hate the options, hate the system, are sick, busy, etc). By voting for third parties or doing a write in you send a message to the politicians that something they are doing is not accepted by the voting population.

Ask yourself if you really want this country run by a direct democracy. Look around and really ask yourself that question.

Washington may be full of dumb, blowhard *** who have no idea what they're doing other than eating out of the hand of think tanks, focus groups and multinationals but they have education and ambition as a rudder. Some of them are actually really intelligent when the cameras are off and they aren't lowing their IQ to appeal to the masses.

The people? The people would vote for us to print money because if everyones a millionaire I can buy myself that new blowup doll! Be right back, gonna inflate Barbie and ask her how she feels about my penis direct democracy.

see!?!?

he'd make a great libertarian!

that was a odd sensation.

you evoked strong senses of fear & humor simultaneously...

Direct democracy scares the bejesus out of me. Look at how California keeps getting manipulated by its "get enough signatures and we'll let you vote on anything" nonsense. I'd consider a direct democracy only after we ban all religious practice, since it is the pulpit that seems most able to stir people to making stupid decisions.

yeah I didn't really think that one through very well, sry.

1960's are you talking about Mad Men. That is my only cultural reference to the 60s. Anything that happened before I was born never happened.

That is the biggest problem kids (20 somethings) don't have any reference to politics outside of *** pandering to young voters. Vote or die. Rock the vote etc.