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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-18 21:28:24
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Where are you even getting that he requested inactive status? It doesn't say anything like that. You are just repeating Sylow. At least credit him in your posts with citation.

That psych 98 class you took must work wonders on the mouth-breathers you associate with, but it doesn't work on me. You're wrong, proven by multiple people with multiple sources. K thx bye.
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Where are you even getting that he requested inactive status? It doesn't say anything like that. You are just repeating Sylow. At least credit him in your posts with citation.

Perhaps you should post your evidence that Obama lied about passing the bar and surrendered his law license. Or, you can keep being completely full of ***.

Hard to say with such a secretive man tbh. I supposed when someone inexplicably surrenders their law license, people will supply their own motives. Can you definitively tell me why he did with evidence?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 21:31:26
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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Where are you even getting that he requested inactive status? It doesn't say anything like that. You are just repeating Sylow. At least credit him in your posts with citation.

That psych 98 class you took must work wonders on the mouth-breathers you associate with, but it doesn't work on me. You're wrong, proven by multiple people with multiple sources. K thx bye.

I didn't mean to humiliate you so badly. you don't have to leave.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-18 21:32:41
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Hard to say with such a secretive man tbh. I supposed when someone inexplicably surrenders their law license, people will supply their own motives. Can you definitively tell me why he did with evidence?

So basically you have nothing. You are just making things up, which is what we knew all along. He didn't lie about passing the bar, and he hasn't surrendered his license. Nothing exists to prove otherwise.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 21:39:22
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He did surrender his license.

what does "voluntarily retired and unauthorized to practice law" mean to you?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-18 21:43:40
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
He did surrender his license.

what does "voluntarily retired and unauthorized to practice law" mean to you?

In legal terms, that's exactly what it means. It's irrelevant what it means to anyone, it means what it means. Surrender is a legal term. Inactive by request is also a legal term. They mean different things. When it comes to the practice of law, you use the terms that the law requires. You're wrong.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-18 21:45:15
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
He did surrender his license.

what does "voluntarily retired and unauthorized to practice law" mean to you?

Same thing it means to everyone else, he deactivated it, and kept it, so when he leaves office, he can reactivate it right away. Oh actually, he can reactivate it tomorrow. He has his law license, he didn't turn it over to anyone, which is what surrendering means. Sorry your definition doesn't apply outside of your own little fantasy world. Just like he WAS a college professor, despite your refusal to face reality. So, where is the evidence that he lied to pass the bar, or did you make that up too?
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By Otomis 2014-01-18 21:45:27
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
He did surrender his license.

what does "voluntarily retired and unauthorized to practice law" mean to you?

well to us who speak English and not Mer-E-can understand it clearly. You seem confused however:

A lawyer's holding active status can entail a number of obligations (financial and otherwise): paying bar association fees, carrying malpractice insurance, taking continuing legal education classes, etc. Therefore, it is not uncommon for lawyers who are not in practice (i.e., do not appear in court or counsel clients) and do not expect to return to practice in the near future to request that their licenses be placed on inactive status in order to avoid these ongoing obligations.

Simply means, they have no need to upkeep their licensees as neither of them are practicing law currently.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 21:58:32
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So despite having zero evidence you all have also supplied Obama with his own motive for surrendering his law license. I won't call you out on your hypocrisy. I really won't.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 22:02:26
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Please someone discuss his illustrious law career as a "lawyer" too if you will. I'd love to hear some of his accomplishments or perhaps maybe a single case he tried. Did he even try a case in court?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-18 22:08:00
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
So despite having zero evidence you all have also supplied Obama with his own motive for surrendering his law license. I won't call you out on your hypocrisy. I really won't.

Why not? You have lied about everything else, why not keep lying? Obama did not surrender his license, he did not lie in order to pass the bar. He was a college professor. He is a legally certified lawyer, listed as inactive. You can choose not to believe it, it doesn't mean anything.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-18 22:09:33
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The damn article I posted already that Amandarius didn't bother to read said:
Obama arrived in Chicago in 1993 with a degree from Harvard Law School and was hired as a junior lawyer at the firm then known as Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Gallard. He helped represent clients in civil and voting rights matters and wrongful firings, argued a case before a federal appellate court, and took the lead in writing a suit to expand voter registration.

But the firm also handled routine legal matters and real estate. Obama spent about 70% of his time on voting rights, civil rights and employment, generally as a junior associate. The rest of his time was spent on matters related to real estate transactions, filing incorporation papers and defending clients against minor lawsuits.

In one instance, Obama defended a nonprofit corporation that owns low-income housing projects against a lawsuit in which a man alleged that he slipped and fell because of poor maintenance. Obama got the suit dismissed.

In another case, Obama appeared on behalf of a nonprofit corporation that provided healthcare for poor people. A woman who claimed income of less than $8,000 a year had sued Obama's client to obtain a $336 payment for baby-sitting services; Obama's client paid up, and the case was settled.

In 1994, Obama appeared in Cook County court on behalf of Woodlawn Preservation & Investment Corp., defending it against a suit by the city, which alleged that the company failed to provide heat for low-income tenants on the South Side during the winter.

Those were not the cases Obama highlighted in the self-portrait drawn in his first memoir, "Dreams From My Father."

"In my legal practice," he wrote, "I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly build grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."

Obama had made a name for himself at Harvard, where he was the first African American president of the law review. That accomplishment generated press accounts and prompted Judson Miner, head of the firm that bears his name, to recruit Obama. Obama took time to complete "Dreams From My Father," then joined the 13-attorney firm.

"He was doing the work that any first-year or second-year associate would do," Miner said. "In litigation, he was doing basic research and writing memos. . . . In the first couple years he would play a very minor role. He wouldn't know [much], so he would take the lead from whoever was supervising his work."

He did have some noteworthy cases. Among them, Obama filed a major 1995 suit that successfully forced Illinois to enforce the 1993 federal Motor Voter law, which sought to make it easier for people to register to vote.


Obama took what Miner called the "laboring oar" on some cases. He took the lead arguing a 1994 case before the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals on behalf of a securities trader who had been improperly fired. The court ruled for his client.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 22:16:57
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so one case? lol

It says all he did was research. It mentions one court appearance. Sounds like a paralegal.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-01-18 22:18:01
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
so one case? lol

It says all he did was research. It mentions one court appearance. Sounds like a paralegal.

Not all or even most of lawyers are litigators.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-18 22:18:23
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Sounds like he passed the bar.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 22:19:45
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So despite having zero evidence you all have also supplied Obama with his own motive for surrendering his law license. I won't call you out on your hypocrisy. I really won't.

Why not? You have lied about everything else, why not keep lying? Obama did not surrender his license, he did not lie in order to pass the bar. He was a college professor. He is a legally certified lawyer, listed as inactive. You can choose not to believe it, it doesn't mean anything.


I said I got it already. He was an unaccomplished lawyer that was left to doing research for the real lawyers. He later surrendered his law license to enter the political machine in Chicago. Everyone that gives a lecture in a classroom is now a Professor thanks to Obama. I said I got it.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-18 22:20:39
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Odin.Jassik said: »
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so one case? lol

It says all he did was research. It mentions one court appearance. Sounds like a paralegal.

Not all or even most of lawyers are litigators.


Yep lots of lackeys and gofers.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-18 22:20:56
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »

I said I got it already. He was an unaccomplished lawyer that was left to doing research for the real lawyers. He later surrendered his law license to enter the political machine in Chicago. Everyone that gives a lecture in a classroom is now a Professor thanks to Obama. I said I got it.

Now you are even lying about getting it.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-18 22:31:11
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That about sums up 2008-2013. Thanks guys, but at least he did succeed in getting one half of the country to hate the other half.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2014-01-19 00:07:53
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I'm pretty sure that was already the case.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-19 00:25:38
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It seems video of my all-time favorite Hillary quote from the 2008 primary has been expunged from the internet.

"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002" - Hillary Clinton
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-19 00:28:33
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I'm pretty sure that was already the case.


Started in about 2003 when it seemed President Bush would steamroll into a 2nd term easily because he was enormously popular. This is when Democrats changed to the tactic to absolutely viciously attack him and demonize him, day after day after day for years.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-19 00:34:03
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So in summary, Obama had a law license but wasn't a lawyer, was granted professor status by an accredited institution but wasn't a professor, was not qualified to be President despite being President for 4 years, and spawned the concept of partisanship even before he was elected. Damn, this guy is bad news.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-01-19 00:35:37
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What is this thread even about anymore? Can we make an "Obama Sucks" thread so that it's all in context?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-01-19 00:36:39
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So in summary, Obama had a law license but wasn't a lawyer, was granted professor status by an accredited institution but wasn't a professor, was not qualified to be President despite being President for 4 years, and spawned the concept of partisanship even before he was elected. Damn, this guy is bad news.

Shh, Amandarius is trying to move on from his latest embarrassment of lies, and is now, of all things, trying to paint Bush Jr as some kind of victim.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-01-19 00:39:13
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Or, we can just accept what we already know and move on. Bush Jr. and Obama are both jokes. Case closed.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-19 00:40:10
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I think it was about Chris Christie turning out to be Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget or some other junk no one will care about in a month or two.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-01-19 00:42:42
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Or, we can just accept what we already know and move on. Bush Jr. and Obama are both jokes. Case closed.
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He's talking about the popularity of false equivalence. One bad thing = another bad thing only if you're mentally lacking. Not all errors are created equal and they shouldn't be viewed as such by default.
(Quoting one's self is classy, I don't care what anyone says)
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-01-19 00:45:33
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
So in summary, Obama had a law license but wasn't a lawyer, was granted professor status by an accredited institution but wasn't a professor, was not qualified to be President despite being President for 4 years, and spawned the concept of partisanship even before he was elected. Damn, this guy is bad news.

Was my bad, I forgot about that one case he appeared in court for during his prestigious law career that qualified him as President before surrendering his law license for reasons unknown. And you know how loosely you are using the term Professor. And you also know how horrible the left began savaging Bush after 2002 midterms which permanently left bad blood between both sides of the political spectrum. You also know that president Obama has been by far the worst and least effective leader in American history. He cam in on the illusion and promise of being the next Abraham Lincoln. He leaves making Jimmy Carter look worthy of Mount Rushmore.
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