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Fenrir.Sylow said: » YouTube Video Placeholder Automaton tank all the things! Not using KKK? Can you show gear/list attachments? Also on an unrelated note, how do you get your recast up to the top right corner like that? Fenrir.Sylow said: » DEX+10 Attack +25 Acc+25 Critical Hit Rate + 5% Automaton Haste + 10% All Stats + 10 Funny thing about this joke was that the actual stats pretty much blow them away. Sylow has shown me why the next 30K is going into the alternator fund instead of bloodbath axe...
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Bismarck.Diablosword said: » Not using KKK? Can you show gear/list attachments? Also on an unrelated note, how do you get your recast up to the top right corner like that? I'm just using the ACC set listed on my character because I was just screwing around and therefore had no buffs/food ItemSet 296679 Attachments are Galvanizer * Coiler Armor Plate II Turbo Charger * Drum Magazine Strobe * Tension Spring * Tension Spring II Disruptor (never used it in the video) Heatsink Optic Fiber * Eraser (never used it in the video) Sylow, you have absolutely no reason to ever use Tension Spring when Attuner does the same thing but better and costs the same elemental capacity
As far as I'm aware Attuner works on level correction of which there is none in Adoulin
Correct.
Additionally, you have absolutely no reason to continue making sock accounts. You're banned from everywhere for a reason. It's possible that it could do something else but until I see data that shows what it's doing - I know exactly what Tension Spring does and can plan for it accordingly
AFAIK, attachments whose benefits were based on level correction were addressed at some point, but ended up getting swept under the rug
SE themselves said Attuner and Target Marker will work normally. Why? Because what Attuner and Target Marker do is IGNORE DEFENSE AND EVASION if the target is at least 1 level higher than you (I.E, level 100, which everything in Adoulin is)
It has NOTHING to do with level correction. It ignores 5% defense and evasion period with 0 maneuvers. Lrn2pup If it's so obvious what it's doing then why don't you produce the data to show what it's doing
The data has already been produced and extensively tested. Any PUP worth his salt has always equipped Target Marker and Attuner if fighting anything above Even Match, since level 75 cap. 5/15/40/45 defense/evasion ignored with 0/1/2/3 maneuvers. It's not new. It has always been worth using in place of tension spring 1/stabilizer 1. If you're fighting something EM or below, which doesn't exist in Adoulin, then obviously you simply swap it.
If the testing has been produced and extensively tested then you should have no problem linking to this information and I will gladly concede if the test is convincing
But the JPwiki information on Attuner is different than the NA information and I have not seen the actual data from either side
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Adamantly arguing something while sourcing is effective. Shouting and whining that you are correct makes you look like a dumbass.
If you haven't noticed, much of what was ~known~ is wrong and just as much has changed.
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Zelduh being Zelduh
Feel free to report him for his 500th sock account Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Adamantly arguing something while sourcing is effective. Shouting and whining that you are correct makes you look like a dumbass. If you haven't noticed, much of what was ~known~ is wrong and just as much has changed. I'm mean they've changed the Automaton base damage calculation in the past year and we still don't fully know the formula Not to mention that those numbers reflect a degree of precision that typically only comes from the source, which definitely didn't happen
Source: Common knowledge. Just because you're late to the party and just recently jumped on the new PUP bandwagon, doesn't invalidate something that has been known since days after ToAU came out.
Common knowledge is not a valid source - try again
Go test it yourself if you're so adamant about being gimp
And if no one ever produced any data then yes it is invalidated because it was never actually tested
And if it's so common knowledge then why do the JP wikis have differing information Ive never seen someone so mad at someone else for playing PUP...
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CoreyX said: » Go test it yourself if you're so adamant about being gimp I would have no problem if Attuner did have a strong effect but attack/defense effects are very difficult to test and apparently someone else already tested it for me! Too bad you can't tell me where the information is! Bismarck.Diablosword said: » Ive never seen someone so mad at someone else for playing PUP... He's a delusional, jobless, uneducated leech on society with a severe personality disorder; he lives a mad life Oh yes I forgot the JP know everything! Whatever they say MUST be true. Seriously, go test it yourself. Assuming your attack/accuracy isn't capped, it will do more for you than tension spring 1 or stabilizer 1. Guaranteed. That's what the attachment is *for*. They haven't changed it, and SE themselves POSTED that they will STILL work normally, as intended, because it doesn't "remove level correction" or anything crazy, it simply ignores a partial amount of defense or evasion, which by proxy increases attack and accuracy, moreso than stabilizer 1/tension spring 1
With almost 100% probability any time JP wiki information and NA information have differed - the JP info ends up being correct (or both are wrong) upon further investigation unless the NA information came from Byrth or Motenten
Granted, you're still going to look like a complete fool either way, but you realize you could just link us to said testing and end this?
Why don't you go post about your findings on Blue Gartr, Tsuko? Oh right, I forgot, you were banned there! Ironic and hypocritical much?
If you don't want to believe the previously established facts, feel free to disprove them yourself by testing it and post it. Otherwise, the facts of what Target Marker and Attuner do are still facts until otherwise. They're not facts if no one ever actually tested them
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