Sandy Mission 9-2: The Heir To The Light Question

I've been trio'ing my way up the Sandy missions since 6-1, so far been pretty easy. We're up to the last mission, and I'm a little worried about it, it looks like it may be rough for us...looking for some first hand experiences.

Here's the link => The Heir to the Light

Anywho, is this possible to do without a Sleepga? I'm sure it will make it immensely easier, and every testimonial on the wiki includes someone with sleepga...but it also says the mobs are pretty weak. I realize shadows may go down quick, but would it be even possible for a DNC, THF, and RNG to do this in a trio? If they're weak and we just unload both barrels we might be ok, but as there's no levels or anything listed for the mobs, I dunno...and also since it's a BCNM I obviously can't build TP first.

Also, in the second part, Prince Trion fights with you...do you have to keep him alive? Doesn't say anything about that in the wiki (unless I missed it in a DURR moment) and as I'm gonna be the only healer, I'm not sure if my Waltz's will work for him. I know they don't work for the escort quest NPC's, which is ***, but whatever...

First hand experiences? From someone WITHOUT a sleepga?

(And yes, I realize we should probably just do it with someone that can sleep, but as you can only enter the BCNM if you've already beat it, or need it, that limits things a bit)

It's gonna be tough, I tried to solo it a few times and only got past the first stage a couple times.

In the end my friend came on war and we duo'd, I still needed to sleepga the first stage and I died on the second stage and he managed to finish it off (just).

So yeah, dunno how you'll go without sleepga :/

Ihavnt completed the Sandy curve but i can give you my 2 cents..

In the first part, unless they are low level mobs you wont be able to take them all with just three people, especially there being a whm-type mob that can either benedict or cure. That will make your life hella hard, good idea to at least get 1 blm or another sleepga'er.

In the 2nd part, in all the times i fought with NPC;s along side me, if they died it meant mission over or quest over, so im gonna put a wild guess and say that stands here..

Sorry that this aint hard facts but im pretty sure its accurate

The mobs in the first stage are incredibly weak, I did it just a couple of weeks ago to help a PLD friend of mine out. He PLD/BLU and just supertanked them all so we didn't need Sleepga.

The RNG Orc won't sleep, the WHM Warmachine won't sleep and will cause some problems if it starts Curaga'ing a slept group. The Warmachine should be silenced (somehow) and killed first, as fast as possible.

The RNG should be killed second with careful attention being paid, especially under 75%, because you don't want to eat an EES to the face.

The second part, it's essential Trion is kept alive, so you're going to need a WHM, RDM or SCH. He doesn't have much in the lines of HP and will die pretty fast, albeit not as fast as the Windy Taru that gets smacked for 400 and is on 5% >_>

The second part is "easier" than the first, especially with 3 people that aren't curing / don't need to rest (like DNC, any DD job, Tanks). Have your main tank engage the PLD, someone with Provoke gets whatever trion goes for, and kill the BLM Orc as soon as possible.

Without a "real" healer, you won't be able to do this if you are unlucky and Trion gets smacked a few times. He got caught with a few AoE's on the run I did last and got pretty low. I was WHM so there wasn't any risk of him dying, but still.. I wouldn't try without someone that can cure.

Good luck with it and such though ^^ If you manage to do it, I'd love to know how ;)

I just finishing duoing all the Sandy missions and I would recommend a sleepga. However, that said for the first part you can probably get someone with high def (rdm/blu or w/e with taco) and they probably wouldn't take much damage. Second part is not very difficult, but Trion can be pretty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE so you have to watch him.
I suspect it can be done without Sleepga, but I wouldn't recommend it.
My friend and I went as RDM/BLM and SAM/NIN. Was extremely easy. Speed is the key in the second part as Trion is probably going to do something stupid if you are kiting mobs around and then get himself killed if noone is watching him.

I know this isn't the best news for you Numbertwo but I just did Sandy 9-2 today and without some form of sleep it doesn't look good for you.(not saying it's impossible but definitely makes it TONS harder) Also yes the npc will need to be watched and/or healed in the second half of the fight. If he dies the fight is over. Lucky for me at the last minute a 75 BRD/WHM(with relic horn no less) logged in and it was horde lullaby ftw!

You don't need to cure trion to win as long as you pull hate off him asap and burn down the blm so he doesn't die from AOE.

Thanks for the replies...

/sigh

Yeah I remember doing this, and the first round you'll really want some form of Sleepga. Although weak, they are still high in numbers.

Easily trioable for certain jobs, but not with such a god-awful setup. No offense.

None taken, but we HAVE been able to blow through every other mission in no time, the trio ain't that bad. Just not very good for this particular mission, which sucks ***...

I can help you out if you need. :P I have 3 75 Blm at my disposal along with my Mnk/Smn, and various other jobs like Rdm/Brd/Thf/Rng/etc.

Thanks, I appreciate it...I'll talk to the other guys and see when we may be doing it, prolly next Tuesday between 6:00-9:00 PM CST but I'll find out for sure asap.

Unfortunately I can't check Wikia from work.

From reading the above postings though this almost seems similiar to the Bastok 9-2(Kill the bad guy, keep crappy NPC guy alive). Trioing might be an issue. What jobs are available between the three aside from THF DNC RNG?

Those are their only jobs available. :P

Like the rest, you'll have a hell of a time without sleepga. However, I can see it possibly working if you have the thief do a superkite with speed boots. There's enough room to run that it could potentially work. What I'd do is have thf go in, aggro, run to start, wait for group to arrive, run through them, repeat. Hard, but I could see it working. Have them set up for major eva, and /nin for shadows.

Repeat strategy for round 2. Although this is a tough job set to trio it, I think it's possible.

Also, you CAN tp at the start - just do it with opo necklace and/or IC wings. Be sure to have thf bring hi-pots or similar, since dnc probably won't be able to cure him.

I know that you can cast cures on Turin, so I would assume dnc cures may be ok as well.

You need a macro set for curing an npc though with Dnc. Can't just tab to him. (Same with npc fellows.)

Yeah, you can cure some NPC's with DNC (Adventuring Fellow for sure, also Divine Waltz will hit your AF) but like I said, the Escort Quest NPC (the only one I've tried is Eldieme with that *** Cannau) CANNOT be cured at all with Waltz. I tried using my NPC Fellow Macros (<st>) and it says "That action can not be performed on that target". So some work, but not all. That's my biggest concern there, and I'm gonna go on the assumption that you can't do it in there either to be safe...

PLD/BLU + RDM/WHM to duo. Did it with Stage 3 Phalanx 2 and 750 defence on PLD. The only serious damage taken was in the second round when the BLM orc got a spell off forget which it was but it hit for 600 give or take. Thats an option if your going to try to trio it 3rd job obviously /thf. Was ages since I did it but in the 2nd round think order was BLM and PLD orc are both tanked and DRK orc was slept.

>>I just finishing duoing all the Sandy missions and I would recommend a sleepga. However, that said for the first part you can probably get someone with high def (rdm/blu or w/e with taco) and they probably wouldn't take much damage. Second part is not very difficult, but Trion can be pretty HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE so you have to watch him.<<

This is exactly what we did when we low-manned it. DRK/SAM, SAM/WAR, WHM/NIN (v. respectable Hexastrike gear), RDM/BLU. RDM used a taco, super-kited the mobs, and each of the three of us started picking them off (after burning down the warmachine & RNG). We saved our two-hours for the 2nd part and it was a joke. Just remember to grab a poison potion since the BLM may open up with a Sleepga of his own. Looking at your setup, I'd have the RNG arrowburn him down while the THF keeps the DRK busy.

For the first part, however, you might want to grab a RDM/BLU or well-geared PLD friend to help with the supertanking. While it may be a hard sell to recruit help for, at least they don't have to run through Toraimarai Canal or Castle Zvahl :P