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Final Fantasy - The Best and Worst?
Bismarck.Faelar
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2013-05-12 20:13:40
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/salute
Also.
I think FF7 was a good game, not the best. This video sums up my thoughts on it.
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Cerberus.Ryger
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By Cerberus.Ryger 2013-05-12 23:25:24
- The best game? i'm going to go with ffxi. I've been playing it since it came out, and have had a blast. 2nd would be FFT
- The best lead character? hmmm.... i'd say 8. squall plays the part of a leader, and he does it fine.
- The best support character? (Basically any good character who you can party with, who is NOT the lead character. I do not mean support like a Mage.) auron i'd think
- The most evil villain? ff7
- The game with the best music? ff8
- The game with the best battle and level system? i liked 12 a lot more then some others. i enjoyed ffx lvl system tho.
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) really i liked 7 and 8 the best. probably 7 more.
- The hardest boss fight ever? PW or AV b4 sch i'd think.
- The rarest item ever? pink tail ff4...
- The rarest fight? princess flan from ff4
- The hardest weapon to make? *** never gotten lulu's thunder challenge though 4 play thoughs.
- The best main storyline? i enjoyed 7 and fft the most.
- The worst main storyline? ff13 >.>
- The best jobs? probably a question for a ffxi person. i'm going to go with drk since its one of my fav jobs for dd.
- The worst jobs? touchy subject. i have a lot 99 well equipped. i'd say ATM maybe rdm. it had it's moment during a lot of the games history; like tanking ect. but i think it's times done atm.
- The most pointless quests ever? ffxi's starter quest. trade a paper to an npc for 50gil.
- The hardest quests to complete? idk about hard quests, but i found the past mission quests to be really long and boring.
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage) rdm/drk stun >.>
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? i've never done any glitches that benefited me in any way. But i did find it fun to do the whitesand beach ocean glitch back in the day.
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party) edward the bard lol. get him low hp and he hides.
- The hardest end boss? crystal mission final boss back at 75 cap.
- The most useful magic spell ever? raise lols.
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? probably eden from ff8
- The best mini-game? hmm... i enjoyed bliztball, but didnt like how it was 10mins long for a game. I loved ff8's card game though, never gets old.
- The worst mini-game? didn't care for ff9's card game
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.) rdm/nin back at lvl 75 cap lols
- The best damage dealing character probably drk
- The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.) fran is a horrible character in 12. she isnt the top in any stats.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-13 00:13:24
- The best game? Final Fantasy XII
- The best lead character? Zack Fair
- The best support character? (Basically any good character who you can party with, who is NOT the lead character. I do not mean support like a Mage.) Auron/Noillurie
- The most evil villain? Kefka
- The game with the best music? FFVIII
- The game with the best battle and level system? FFXII
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) Limit breaks in FFVII
- The hardest boss fight ever? PW vanilla: just hard to stay over 18 hours fighting something
- The rarest item ever? Spelunker's hat
- The rarest fight? Vrtra: I always forget to kill him.
- The best main storyline? FFX
- The worst main storyline? FFXII
- The best jobs? SAM in FFXI, FFVI and FFXII
- The worst jobs? Rune Fencer in FFXI
- The most pointless quests ever? Repeatable quests in general. I don't like this concept and they're too often useless.
- The hardest quests to complete? Forging a new myth. Still haven't forged mine.
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage) Knights of the Round, FFVII
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? FFVII dupe glitch
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party) Eiko
- The most useful magic spell ever? Haste
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Yojimbo
- The best mini-game? Blitzball
- The worst mini-game? FFIX card game
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.) Steiner
- The best damage dealing character? Irvine
- The best magic support character? (WHM, cures etc.) Fraan as WHM
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-14 23:36:35
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The Greatest Special Abilites??
Under certain circumstances, we are given the ability to perform special moves to devastate our opponents. Which of the special abilites are the greatest?
Quetzalcoatl.Wulfie
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By Quetzalcoatl.Wulfie 2013-05-15 00:07:30
- The best game? Final Fantasy IX
- The best lead character? Zidane
- The most evil villain? Kefka
- The game with the best music? I'd have to say 6 or 9
- The game with the best battle and level system? FF 9
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) Azure Lore
- The best main storyline? FF XI
- The best jobs? Blue Mage
- The worst jobs? I don't know, Chemist?
- The hardest quests to complete? Excalibur 2
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage) HeadButt/Sudden Lunge
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? Salvage Dupe
- The most useful magic spell ever? Utsusemi Ni
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Alexander FFXI
Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2013-05-15 00:23:22
- The best game? Final Fantasy VIII
- The best lead character? Cloud
- The best support character? Auron
- The most evil villain? sephiroth + Ultimecia
- The game with the best music? FFVIII
- The game with the best battle and level system? FFX
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.) FFX
- The rarest item ever? Hero War
- The rarest fight? Emerald Weapon
- The best main storyline? FFVIII
- The worst main storyline? IX
- The best jobs? Dark knight (X-2), Dragoon (Tactics)
- The worst jobs? Alchemist (every FF with it)
- The most pointless quests ever? Card queen in VIII, that ***is so addicting I have real life cards.
- The hardest quests to complete? Card Queen quest, Random plus same element closed... (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
- The biggest spam move ever? Low-Hp, initiative, Leon-heart... GG
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? FFXI windower? (LOL)
- The weakest party character ever? Aerith, Yuna , Wakka- The most useful magic spell ever? Aura, Triple
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Odin/Gilgamesh
- The best mini-game? F FVIII card game, god damn addicting
- The worst mini-game? FFX-2 The coin battle game, Learn more math in that than in school.
By Gimp 2013-05-15 00:55:19
Wakka is the strongest character in FF X with attack reels...
Yuna doesn't need to be on that list either she has higher stats for ultima and does it better than Lulu herself until you bump them both up
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-15 03:34:09
Screw Wakka-Wakka, it's all about Zell!
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Ragnarok.Xenophire
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2013-05-15 05:26:35
I'd honestly have to say Limit Breaks from VII and VIII. Also was amazing that they took priority over anything.
Aura + Lionheart spam anyone?
I'd also have to mention the Full ATB abilities from XIII. Army of One, Last Resort, and Highwind being my favorites.
By Dantedmc 2013-05-15 06:13:14
Ragnarok.Xenophire said: »I'd also have to mention the Full ATB abilities from XIII. Army of One, Last Resort, and Highwind being my favorites.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-05-15 06:56:03
Wakka is the strongest character in FF X with attack reels...
Yuna doesn't need to be on that list either she has higher stats for ultima and does it better than Lulu herself until you bump them both up It's mainly opinions, not actual facts. There is no reason to ask who is the best FF character when you can just compare the stats directly.
Screw Wakka-Wakka, it's all about Zell! Dolphin *** blow.
By Gimp 2013-05-15 10:05:00
Depends on how much time you spent into the sphere grid and if you have the correct overdrive charge, then you'd have to consider the abilities each person has. Late in the game you can charge the overdrive incredibly fast and spam this for 99k each shot if you took the time to increase their stats that much.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2013-05-15 10:12:03
Depends on how much time you spent into the sphere grid and if you have the correct overdrive charge, then you'd have to consider the abilities each person has. Late in the game you can charge the overdrive incredibly fast and spam this for 99k each shot if you took the time to increase their stats that much.
Effectively ruining the game. FFX was terribly unbalanced, removing the 9999 cap was a big mistake.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-05-15 10:12:28
The sphere grid can overwrite silly stat spheres with clear spheres and then you can use power magic speed spheres etc etc to make it add +4 to a stat instead of +1 or +2.
This can be done so all characters can achieve 255 of each stat.
The only unique thing about FFX characters is yuna's aeons and overdrives :<
By Gimp 2013-05-15 10:27:45
Depends on how much time you spent into the sphere grid and if you have the correct overdrive charge, then you'd have to consider the abilities each person has. Late in the game you can charge the overdrive incredibly fast and spam this for 99k each shot if you took the time to increase their stats that much.
Effectively ruining the game. FFX was terribly unbalanced, removing the 9999 cap was a big mistake.
probably, I can tell you that I only cared to level my characters to the point where they hit for 12 to 20k on overdrives, it takes a lot of time to make the true cap happen as you would need that or very high stats to win most of the harder coliseum fights
Ragnarok.Xenophire
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2013-05-15 14:43:13
Luckily, this time around, only took me 5 casts to get my Growth Egg, haha!
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 13:31:18
Yea I can admit that as soon as Break Damage Limit came into FFX, it took away the feeling of danger for most mobs in the game.
Anyway, I am going to list everyones answer to the above question. I would assume that FF7/8 Limit Breaks will win, however we might see a surprise.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 14:04:34
There is a definite trend going on here, and it seems that Limit Breaks, mostly from FFVII and FFVIII, come out on top.
Omnislash appears to be the one limit break that is singled out more then any other.
Here is the list of answers. If your answer is not here, it is because it is not a "Special Ability".
Limit Breaks (18) - Omnislash (5), The End (2) Lionheart, Tifa's Limits, Renzokuken, FFVI Limits.
Trance (2) - Grand Lethal
Invincible, Azure Lore
Overdrive
Mimic
Safe to say, Omnislash will represent "Limit Breaks", as the most useful special abilities.
Also if I personally had to pick one, I would say Great Gospel. If Aeris had lived past the first disc, well .. you can imagine how much easier the game would have been. However people usually didn't waste the time to get it if they knew what was going to happen, or just simply didn't know how to get it.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-05-16 14:05:46
There's Cyan's special ability with the zombie glitch!
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-16 14:07:39
There is a definite trend going on here, and it seems that Limit Breaks, mostly from FFVII and FFVIII, come out on top.
Omnislash appears to be the one limit break that is singled out more then any other.
Here is the list of answers. If your answer is not here, it is because it is not a "Special Ability".
Limit Breaks (18) - Omnislash (5), The End (2) Lionheart, Tifa's Limits, Renzokuken, FFVI Limits.
Trance (2) - Grand Lethal
Invincible, Azure Lore
Overdrive
Mimic
Safe to say, Omnislash will represent "Limit Breaks", as the most useful special abilities. I think Zell's Armageddon Fist technique should represent it!
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-16 14:17:59
Been avoiding, but I'm bored..
- The best game? Final Fantasy IX
- The best lead character? Terra Branford
- The best support character? Kain Highwind (The inner conflict he goes though is interesting)
- The most evil villain? Kefka Palazzo
- The game with the best music? Final Fantasy VII
- The game with the best battle and level system? Final Fantasy X
- The greatest special ability? Trance
- The hardest boss fight ever? Iron Giant, FFIII DS
- The rarest item ever? Excalibur II, FFIX (Ok, not Rare, but I take my time and enjoy FFIX)
- The rarest fight? Lv. 99 Red Chocobo, FFXII (Never popped him)
- The hardest weapon to make? Mythics...?
- The best main storyline? Final Fantasy VI
- The worst main storyline? Final Fantasy XIII
- The best jobs? Mystic Knight, FFV
- The worst jobs? Necromancer, FFV Advance
- The most pointless quests ever? The Holy Crest, FFXI (lol)
- The hardest quests to complete? Farewell to a Legend, FFXII
- The biggest spam move ever? Stringing Pummel, FFXI
- The biggest glitches that benefit you? Dark Knight's Darkness+Ragnarok bug, FFX-2
- The weakest party character ever? Edward Chris von Muir, FFIV
- The hardest end boss? Chaos, Dissidia: Final Fantasy (more annoying than hard)
- The most useful magic spell ever? Haste, FFXI =)
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon? Phoenix
- The best mini-game? Tetra Master, FFIX
- The worst mini-game? Cid vs Hedgehog Pie, FFIX
- The best tank character. Steiner, FFIX
- The best damage dealing character. Tidus, FFX
- The best magic support character Garnet, FFIX
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 14:21:13
There's Cyan's special ability with the zombie glitch!
Yea Cyans glitch could have come under the most useful glitches category. It's only that good because of the glitch, and not because it is naturally strong. Although yea, its freaking awesome.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 14:23:06
There's Cyan's special ability with the zombie glitch!
Yea Cyans glitch could have come under the most useful glitches category. It's only that good because of the glitch, and not because it is naturally strong. Although yea, its freaking awesome.
Adding this video to the second post.
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-16 14:23:52
There's Cyan's special ability with the zombie glitch!
Yea Cyans glitch could have come under the most useful glitches category. It's only that good because of the glitch, and not because it is naturally strong. Although yea, its freaking awesome.
Edward can go bat-***, too, but I still find him pointless.
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 14:36:21
The Weakest Character?
In Final Fantasy, we have characters that are regularly used, and other characters who we almost never use unless we have too.
So who is the weakest of them all? And why?
Ragnarok.Xenophire
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By Ragnarok.Xenophire 2013-05-16 14:39:40
I'm pretty sure Edward is going to be a popular name. I'm sorry, but when you get him and you see 'Hide' on your command list?
As far as strength? Our staff/flute/doll wielders, of course. I remember hitting something with a staff when you first get Yuna and someone is all, "Uh, let us handle this."
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2013-05-16 14:40:19
I'm gonna say Selphie >.> She was just terrible (not counting her Limit Break)
Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-05-16 14:41:30
Also this does include guest characters.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-05-16 14:44:04
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »I'm gonna say Selphie >.> She was just terrible (not counting her Limit Break)
But Selphie was perky and peppy.
As I sit here during the maintenance, I would like to begin an idea I conjured up while working. Simply put, I would like to find out what everyone believes are the absolute best and worst aspects of the Final Fantasy series.
I watched some youtube videos last night, and it seems a lot of the "Top 5" videos are pretty biased, as some youtube users like different FF more then others.
When it comes to FF, I am good at being unbiased. I can admit to playing FF1, 2, 12 and 13 without clearing them, while completing the following titles: FF Mystic Quest, FF 4, 5, 6, 7, 7 DOC, 8, 9, 10, and 10-2. I would love to include FFXI in this, as anyone who makes a list of the series best and worst tends to leave it out for some unknown reason... like they don't want it to exist??
I can admit to never playing FF3, 13-2, Crisis Core or any other I have not listed, so help may be needed on those.
So you may be thinking, how will we decide? What aspects of the game should we look into? Below is a list of questions that I would like to see answered.
- The best game?
- The best lead character?
- The best support character? (Basically any good character who you can party with, who is NOT the lead character. I do not mean support like a Mage.)
- The most evil villain?
- The game with the best music?
- The game with the best battle and level system?
- The greatest special ability? (2 hours, Limit Breaks, Overdrives, Trance etc.)
- The hardest boss fight ever?
- The rarest item ever?
- The rarest fight?
- The hardest weapon to make?
- The best main storyline?
- The worst main storyline?
- The best jobs?
- The worst jobs?
- The most pointless quests ever?
- The hardest quests to complete?
- The biggest spam move ever? (As in, you repeat the move constantly for an advantage)
- The biggest glitches that benefit you?
- The weakest party character ever? (Can be any character who you can "control" in a party)
- The hardest end boss?
- The most useful magic spell ever?
- The greatest summon/esper/eidolon?
- The best mini-game?
- The worst mini-game?
- The best tank character. (PLD, High defense etc.)
- The best damage dealing character
- The best magic support character (WHM, cures etc.)
Can you think of anymore??? If you can, let me know and I shall add it to the list.
I will reserve a post below to show the results, so you people do not have to go looking for them. Also I would like to ask these questions randomly (maybe more then one at a time) and keep them up until we have a sufficient answer. You can simply vote on what you feel is right, and by explaining your answers, you may encourage others to agree with you and vote the same way.
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