Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

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 Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-14 12:34:23
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Maybe cause we don't know the specifics:

Whirlpool/gorget/moonshade/brutal
Qaaxo/Futhark+1/epona/rajas
Atheling/elebelt/manibozho/Qaaxo

maybe.
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By Bismarck.Ranthozyk 2014-06-14 12:55:37
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My prediction set is:

Weapon/Grip/Jukukik Feather
Uk'uxkaj Cap/Gorget/Brutal/Moonshade
Karmesin Vest OR Qaaxo/Futhark+1/Epona's/Thundersoul
Kayapa/Elebelt/Manibozho/Qaaxo

Honestly I think it's going to come down to how important multiattack is for this, and if added str at the loss of DEX is worth it (rajas vs thundersoul, karmesin vest vs qaaxo harness, cheruki needle vs jukukik feather). It is a damage varies with TP ws and it seems like it's getting TP bonus values so moonshade, gorgets, etc seem to be the way to go.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2014-06-17 02:54:46
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DEX+8 augment from Hurkan KI on any WKR armor, gives some pretty nice Dimidation options.

Buremte with STR+9 DEX+39 Acc+20 (beats Futhark+1 if you need Acc, but otherwise Futhark's STR+11 DEX+35 Atk+18 should win out)

Uk'uxkaj Cap with STR+22 DEX+33

Quiahuiz and Kaabnax legs aren't gonna beat R15 Mani.
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By Cerberus.Kaeviathan 2014-06-17 07:33:15
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Dimidiation: Light/Fragmentation

Tested Fragmentation with:
Dimidiation (Fragmentation) -> Ground Strike (Distortion) = Distiortion
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By kenshynofshiva 2014-06-17 07:53:00
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Cerberus.Kaeviathan said: »
Dimidiation: Light/Fragmentation

Tested Fragmentation with:
Dimidiation (Fragmentation) -> Ground Strike (Distortion) = Distiortion

What did it take to unlock???
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By Siren.Kyte 2014-06-17 08:50:54
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At least Herc. Slash doesn't totally blow nuts anymore. It's doing 1800ish in just Lunge gear and the Trial Blade.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-17 09:00:33
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Any info about Dimidiation ftp yet? 5-hit with 80% dex and no attack penalty, sounds like a contender for Reso if it's good.
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By Asura.Sechs 2014-06-17 10:59:18
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Do we know if it's magical or physical, yet?
If it's physical, as I think, then you cannot completely ignore Acc and Att, even if it's an 80% DEX mod.
Sometimes it might be worth to sacrifice a couple of points of Dex if you're getting large amounts of acc/att (and you're not acc/att capped of course)

Whirlpool Mask comes as an example. Probably worth over Uk'uxkaj cap's 25 Dex.
If you're gonna augment Uk'uxkaj with +8 dex then... it might not be worth it, but I'll put STR on mine so I think Whirlpool Mask will prove better in most situation (doubt RUN will be attack capped on the majority of things we'll be fighting)
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-17 11:20:53
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Do we know if it's magical or physical, yet?
If it's physical, as I think, then you cannot completely ignore Acc and Att, even if it's an 80% DEX mod.
Sometimes it might be worth to sacrifice a couple of points of Dex if you're getting large amounts of acc/att (and you're not acc/att capped of course)

Whirlpool Mask comes as an example. Probably worth over Uk'uxkaj cap's 25 Dex.
If you're gonna augment Uk'uxkaj with +8 dex then... it might not be worth it, but I'll put STR on mine so I think Whirlpool Mask will prove better in most situation (doubt RUN will be attack capped on the majority of things we'll be fighting)
The main reason to WS in uk'uxkaj is for the crit+ in which ptica headgear wouldbe best for tat because you get one more crit and 23 acc, however this is a damage varies WS so doesn't matter. therefore yes whirlpool will be what you want.
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By Fenrir.Nitenichi 2014-06-17 11:57:24
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Dimidation is crushing Resolution by a good chunk 1k+ over the past 2 hours or so.

Side note Text says 2 hit is that a mistake?, as it really doesnt look like a 5 hit.
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-17 12:09:35
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How do you know when you break blade w/o a latent?
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By Siren.Kyte 2014-06-17 12:10:25
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You get the WS on your menu. It's mythic style.
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-17 12:17:38
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Siren.Kyte said: »
You get the WS on your menu. It's mythic style.
Ah genius lol thank you
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-17 12:34:21
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300 points too?
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By Fenrir.Nitenichi 2014-06-17 13:20:08
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yes get someone or trust Ayame she always does kasha do spinning slash for light

edit: wrong ws
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By SeekerStar 2014-06-17 13:26:05
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Do you need a requisite amount of fame to get the sword or do you just walk up and he gives it to you?

Or she, never checked to see what the quest giver is :P
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By Bismarck.Ranthozyk 2014-06-17 15:30:31
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You can buy the new enmity spell Crusade spell in Rabao. It's a bit pricey however. Apparently ilvl 115 Naakual weapons can be augmented with Occasionally Attacks Twice now. Where does that put the Hurkan Greatsword in terms of DPS? Would it edge Aettir out against content 115 or lower, or is the base damage too low? Obviously it is useless for tanking situations in comparison to Aettir and Epeolatry.
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By Lyncath 2014-06-17 15:43:15
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Dimidiation skillchain's with itself to create a Light skillchain.
Almost certainly has either Flame/Light Gorget/Belt properties.

Gambit (Lux x3) > Sekkanoki > Dimidiation x2 > Lunge

That could cause some serious damage, and the JA timers fit around each other nicely.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-17 15:44:27
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if it SCs with itself and makes light then it's likely Light/Fragmentation since Frag was sortof confirmed earlier
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-06-17 15:50:23
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On another note: Sam's tp input has changed so much so my friend was able to change into mes' body and dynamic belt full time... Has this effected out hit builds?
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By Lyncath 2014-06-17 17:02:42
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Unless I'm very mistaken... Dimidiation to Resolution also creates a Light skillchain... That's interesting...
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By Asura.Sechs 2014-06-17 18:12:22
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So in the end, which WS are worth bothering to gear for, other than Resolution and Dimidation?
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-06-17 18:46:14
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Any idea on its fTP? It looks like a two hit WS but can't be sure with how TP was changed.
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By Siren.Kyte 2014-06-17 19:13:37
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Lyncath said: »
Dimidiation skillchain's with itself to create a Light skillchain.
Almost certainly has either Flame/Light Gorget/Belt properties.

Gambit (Lux x3) > Sekkanoki > Dimidiation x2 > Lunge

That could cause some serious damage, and the JA timers fit around each other nicely.

Technically you could add in Swipe too.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2014-06-17 19:59:05
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Bismarck.Ranthozyk said: »
You can buy the new enmity spell Crusade spell in Rabao. It's a bit pricey however. Apparently ilvl 115 Naakual weapons can be augmented with Occasionally Attacks Twice now. Where does that put the Hurkan Greatsword in terms of DPS? Would it edge Aettir out against content 115 or lower, or is the base damage too low? Obviously it is useless for tanking situations in comparison to Aettir and Epeolatry.

Just was having this thought on Aettir vs. Kaquljaan.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2014-06-17 21:19:45
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Whatcha doing with WKR armors for RUN? Buremte Gloves in particular have me stumped, several choices:

Hurkan: DEX+8 for a nice Dimidiation piece if you need Acc (though Futhark+1 when you don't need the Acc should win)

Yumcax: PDT-4%/MDT-2% for a nice tanking piece (Acc/cure pot received piec, DT-).

Kumhau: Magic DMG+4 for Lunge/Swipe (in a slot where I don't really have anything good, I just use Futhark+1 for the enmity+ for lack of a MAB/M.Dmg option)

I went AGI Kaabnax legs for other jobs. And probably can't pass up more STR for Victory Smite on Uk' Cap.
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By Bismarck.Ranthozyk 2014-06-17 21:43:56
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Armor seems a little lackluster, the ideal tank sets in the OP seem better than anything a piece of 115 with -4pdt/-2mdt could offer with it's lower defense vs a 119 piece (iutil +1, af/relic reforged, etc). Putting dex on the uk' cap would make it a great Dimidiation head, but I still like the extra STR/Acc/Atk on Whirlpool. I'm at a loss for any useful augments on the armor, but the Kaquljaan will be pretty nice for fodder/lower tier content with OAT/Acc or OAT/Atk. Maybe a fast cast augment for some slots to bring them up higher ilvl? You're only in fast cast set momentarily anyways, though.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-06-17 22:17:47
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Whatcha doing with WKR armors for RUN? Buremte Gloves in particular have me stumped, several choices:

Hurkan: DEX+8 for a nice Dimidiation piece if you need Acc (though Futhark+1 when you don't need the Acc should win)

Yumcax: PDT-4%/MDT-2% for a nice tanking piece (Acc/cure pot received piec, DT-).

Kumhau: Magic DMG+4 for Lunge/Swipe (in a slot where I don't really have anything good, I just use Futhark+1 for the enmity+ for lack of a MAB/M.Dmg option)

I went AGI Kaabnax legs for other jobs. And probably can't pass up more STR for Victory Smite on Uk' Cap.

Spoilia cuffs are way better in that slot, cheap too.

MDMG isn't as good for lunge/swipe because our base MDMG is already 600+ while we are lacking MAB. Tier 1 nukes on the other hand tend to start at low double digits.
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By Asura.Sechs 2014-06-18 03:15:56
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Whatcha doing with WKR armors for RUN?
The problem here is that people likely have other jobs too, and only one for each of these items :P

Uk'uxkaj Cap => Gonna get STR on this.
Kaabnax Trousers => Will likely get haste+2% and FC+3. It won't do anything for RUN since we can equip Orvail+1 legs and Futhark legs+1, but for other jobs it will be my only FC option. Not bothering with +AGI (which would be an awesome option) because the only WS I have on Agi is Exenterator, and given the recent changes it's clearly inferior to other options, even at 5/5
Ejekamal Mask => Haste+2 and FC+3, same reasons as above.
Quiahuiz Trousers => STR+8, I think. This should be better than Manibozho for dd, even on RUN (granted that I don't see me being a dd on RUN often...)
Buremte Gloves => Making a piece similar to Umuthi (but with 2% less haste) with same PDT but additional -2MDT and the cure pot received excited me. But when you think about the evasion, magic evasion and defense difference with Umuthi I'm not sure if it's gonna be worth it... And I don't really know what to get here. STR to compensate for its lack? More DEX for Evisceration jobs? (and Dimidation!) Hard choice...

Think I didn't forget any RUN-equippable WKR piece, did I?
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-06-18 05:01:42
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I went DEX on both Uk Cap and Bure because both of those are high DEX pieces for both RUN and BLU. Bure is nice because of the insane acc on it, lets you relax a bit in other slots, also it doubles as a "high acc" TP piece if you put the 2% Haste on it. Going to go MND on the pants for Req on both jobs, it's still a very useful WS.

It's been my experience that many RUN's also have BLU as a job and it would make sense seeing as both jobs as hybrid melee's. Thankfully they both share large amounts of gear which makes gearing them both easy.
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